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  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,911 Standard Supporter
    MelloDawg said:

    pawz said:

    Dude61 said:
    Don't bring medical studies and peer reviewed papers into this. The libs don't deal in facts, only emotions.
    Is it peer reviewed? It's listed as "letter to editor".

    Letter uses absolute values instead of rates. How many athletes were in sports in 1966-2004 versus 2020-2022?

    What was the source of statistics for those years? Are they comparable in how they were taken? How reliable are those statistics? Where is the data for 2005-2019?

    What types of sports had the highest rate of cardiac injury? What about race?
    Great questions. Were any asked of the CV jab trials?

    No need to answer.

    The fact that Pfizer asked a federal judge to withhold answers for 75 years says it all.


    In this case, the author Dr Peter McCullough, is the top cardiologist in the country. With over 600 peer-reviewed, published papers on his resume he is head and shoulders above the field. I think it's fair to say he's earned a bit of discretion if those questions aren't perfectly addressed (but likely are given his track record).


    I really hope this helps.


    Like looking into election fraud, some people don't want to ask and don't want to know. Statistical anomalies can be just that. They can also direct an intellectually curious person into further investigation. When the first party strongly resists that investigation, that is further evidence that there should be an investigation - a real investigation.
    Agreed. Good thing there was one of those, though I get that “a real investigation” means “provide me the confirmation bias I need.”
    Point to me a real investigation. I'll wait. 2000 Mules was already taken so you will need an alternative. Don't hurt yourself.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,911 Standard Supporter
    46XiJCAB said:

    I’ve never understood why vax believers become so defensive when confronted with the fact that many of the things their overlords told them about COVID and what needed to be done in the name of science turned out to be BS.

    Denial?
    Embarrassment?
    Stupidity?
    Herd mentality?
    Pride?
    Virtue?
    Blissful ignorance?

    All of the above.

    Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Seem like words to live by if you were an intellectually curious person who wanted honest answers. That leaves out every dem and dem voter. When your life goal is to have people sh*t in your mouth, then you are all set.
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 13,014
    pawz said:

    Dude61 said:
    Don't bring medical studies and peer reviewed papers into this. The libs don't deal in facts, only emotions.
    Is it peer reviewed? It's listed as "letter to editor".

    Letter uses absolute values instead of rates. How many athletes were in sports in 1966-2004 versus 2020-2022?

    What was the source of statistics for those years? Are they comparable in how they were taken? How reliable are those statistics? Where is the data for 2005-2019?

    What types of sports had the highest rate of cardiac injury? What about race?
    Great questions. Were any asked of the CV jab trials?

    No need to answer.

    The fact that Pfizer asked a federal judge to withhold answers for 75 years says it all.


    In this case, the author Dr Peter McCullough is the top cardiologist in the country. With over 600 peer-reviewed, published papers on his resume he is head and shoulders above the field. I think it's fair to say he's earned a bit of discretion if those questions aren't perfectly addressed (but likely are given his track record).


    I really hope this helps.


    They should've been asked and accounted for in the trials. And if people have questions or concerns, then they need to be addressed.

    I don't like that Pfizer wants to withhold answers either, but it's how pharma operates and it leads to distrust of medicine in the population.

    I don't care if McCullough is the top cardiologist in the country, these are basic questions in epidemiology and biostatistics. How do you do a cohort analysis when the two source populations are different?
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter
    edited January 2023

    I'm trying to figure out how donating to this dude's toy drive somehow helps his condition.

    Remember when Cheney said the most patriotic thing we could do after 9/11 was buy stock?

    Similar "just do something" need being filled here, but far more benevolent.

    I'm good with it. And when he wakes up - fingers crossed - it'll make him happy, I'm sure.

    Nothing wrong with that.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter
    LawDawg1 said:

    As stated in another post.... how does the argument ignore the fact COVID19 has shown to also increase heart inflammation and myocarditis? Unless you can establish that an athlete (1) had the Vaxx and (2) never had COVID19, these studies or data points are meaningless. Was it the vaxx? Was it prior exposure to COVID? Was it something else? I hate the pro and anti-vaxxers.... but these arguments lack logic.

    Been following this stuff closely since 2020. Recent studies are showing Covid-related Myocarditis is much rarer than previously thought and presented in the media.

    Not conclusive, but trending away from Covid19 as a major cause of Myocarditis in young people.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,260 Founders Club

    pawz said:

    Dude61 said:
    Don't bring medical studies and peer reviewed papers into this. The libs don't deal in facts, only emotions.
    Is it peer reviewed? It's listed as "letter to editor".

    Letter uses absolute values instead of rates. How many athletes were in sports in 1966-2004 versus 2020-2022?

    What was the source of statistics for those years? Are they comparable in how they were taken? How reliable are those statistics? Where is the data for 2005-2019?

    What types of sports had the highest rate of cardiac injury? What about race?
    Great questions. Were any asked of the CV jab trials?

    No need to answer.

    The fact that Pfizer asked a federal judge to withhold answers for 75 years says it all.


    In this case, the author Dr Peter McCullough is the top cardiologist in the country. With over 600 peer-reviewed, published papers on his resume he is head and shoulders above the field. I think it's fair to say he's earned a bit of discretion if those questions aren't perfectly addressed (but likely are given his track record).


    I really hope this helps.


    They should've been asked and accounted for in the trials. And if people have questions or concerns, then they need to be addressed.

    I don't like that Pfizer wants to withhold answers either, but it's how pharma operates and it leads to distrust of medicine in the population.

    I don't care if McCullough is the top cardiologist in the country, these are basic questions in epidemiology and biostatistics. How do you do a cohort analysis when the two source populations are different?
    In theory, wouldn't a cardiologist be a better source of understanding and identifying side effects that effect the heart than an epidemiologist?
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter
    Bob_C said:

    From your King County overlords. Regardless if this is vaccine related or not, pushing it on young people was fucking stupid. In theory, unlimited risk with no reward.

    About 2 years ago, as I recall, I posted the spreadsheets showing King County cases and deaths. When I realized only 3 people in my Zip Code had died of Covid during a 9 month period, and 2 were in their 80s, I began to question the panic, the masks, the fear, and the absurdity of the county's Covid response.

    It didn't make sense then, and it doesn't make sense now.

    Was a 1% death rate - if you caught the Vid (.03 overall) ever worth what our government put us through? And how effective was our collective response?

  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,911 Standard Supporter

    LawDawg1 said:

    As stated in another post.... how does the argument ignore the fact COVID19 has shown to also increase heart inflammation and myocarditis? Unless you can establish that an athlete (1) had the Vaxx and (2) never had COVID19, these studies or data points are meaningless. Was it the vaxx? Was it prior exposure to COVID? Was it something else? I hate the pro and anti-vaxxers.... but these arguments lack logic.

    Been following this stuff closely since 2020. Recent studies are showing Covid-related Myocarditis is much rarer than previously thought and presented in the media.

    Not conclusive, but trending away from Covid19 as a major cause of Myocarditis in young people.
    The chicom crud or the mRNA vaxxes? Seems pretty clear that the vaxxes are a much higher risk to young people than the Wuhan flu.