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Home field advantage explained

RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,076 Founders Club
https://newsmax.com/newsfront/republicans-democrats-independents/2022/12/27/id/1102064/

Democrats can campaign from the basement and simply be AGAINST Trump or whoever and independents say Amen. GOP campaigns against Biden and the shit show economy and border and independents say But what are you going to do about it? And then vote for more of it from democrats

I agree that the GOP is shitty on actually putting forward any actual conservative or other ideals and they did rely on simply not being a dementia addled moron like Biden but that still should work. But it doesn't. Voters are inrained into the system that democrats are normal and anything other than a democrat is odd, extreme, and dangerous. The narrative if you will

If the GOP does put out some sort of mission statement it will be dissembled by the narrative as an attack on Social Security and racist. Always racist. And the independents say Amen



Article

Republicans do not seem to be gaining any ground among independent voters even as support for Democrats continues to decline.

A new Associated Press VoteCast poll conducted with the nonpartisan and objective research organization NORC at the University of Chicago finds that while support for Democrats among independent voters has declined in the last three election cycles, Republicans are not gaining any ground with that important swing voter group.

According to the poll taken following the midterm elections last month, GOP House candidates received 38% support among independents, basically holding the same rates of 37% in 2020, and 38% in 2018. Meanwhile, support for Democrats among the group dropped by 10 percentage points in the midterms.

Democrat House candidates were supported by 51% of independents in 2018 and 52% in 2020, before dropping to just 42% in 2022, according to the polling data.

"You're never telling me what you’re going to do for the state or the country," self-identified independent voter Vickie Klang told the AP after watching a campaign ad for the Republican candidate in her district that compared the Democrat in the race to President Joe Biden. "That's a huge turnoff."

Some experts believe the GOP messaging during the cycle criticizing Biden, a Democrat, is not "resonating" with independents, and while it may do well with the party faithful in primary elections, it fails to hit home in the general election.

"You’ve got to tell them what you’re going to do," said David Winston, a Republican pollster and senior adviser to House Republicans who had been critical of GOP candidates’ messaging strategy this year. "Somehow the Republican campaigns managed not to do that. And that’s a real serious problem."

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  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    An independent is a DIM just waiting for any reason whatsoever to not vote for a GOP candidate. They lie to themselves. And then do what they planned to do all along.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,076 Founders Club
    46XiJCAB said:

    An independent is a DIM just waiting for any reason whatsoever to not vote for a GOP candidate. They lie to themselves. And then do what they planned to do all along.

    But how does that fight inflation?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,076 Founders Club
    Conservative justice joins liberals due to a conservative argument that makes sense yet the administration has extended the covid emergency to keep vaccine mandates legal so where are the Supremes on that? Gorusch says you can't use covid just because you don't have a border policy. In a vacuum that's hard to argue but still the border is wide open

  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,402 Standard Supporter
    46XiJCAB said:

    An independent is a DIM just waiting for any reason whatsoever to not vote for a GOP candidate. They lie to themselves. And then do what they planned to do all along.

    When you get Snow and PMS housewives voting for the dementia patient actual facts on the ground don't matter. They don't live in the City or rather than vote to fix the problem, they move to Bend and vote for Kate Brown II. Largely unaffected by illegals or the price of gas. Abortion is much higher on their issues than the price of gas. They don't care about clean voter rolls and honest elections because they don't care enough to learn about what is happening. If they don't see it on the local news or on social media, it just doesn't happen. Until it does, then they will blame Trump or DeSantis.

    How anyone can support the current state of public education, CRT and grooming if they actually knew something about it.
  • hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    They had people convinced this was science.

  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,402 Standard Supporter
    And even more science.




  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,402 Standard Supporter
    It's like interviewing the dazzler. Stuffed full of moral superiority with no functional education. Surprised she wasn't masked up and wearing her St. Fow Chee medal. Has no memory of what Portland and the US was like in February of 2020.
  • LebamDawgLebamDawg Member Posts: 8,716 Standard Supporter
    Start voting libertarian - they actually say what they would do.
    To me there is no difference between R and D. I think it is Bongino who states "There are some R's that are D's, but no D's that are R's"

    That is why Republicans will never get the upper hand. When Trump, who is not an R, got elected, the vast majority of R's in DC became their alter ego D's.

    Successful programs be damned
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,402 Standard Supporter


    Lot's of open border "libertarians" like the Koch bros. I've also soured on the libertarians whining about restrictions on free trade when they have no problem with unfair trade with our "trading partners" and exporting jobs and key product production to the chicoms.
    LebamDawg said:

    Start voting libertarian - they actually say what they would do.
    To me there is no difference between R and D. I think it is Bongino who states "There are some R's that are D's, but no D's that are R's"

    That is why Republicans will never get the upper hand. When Trump, who is not an R, got elected, the vast majority of R's in DC became their alter ego D's.

    Successful programs be damned

  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,969 Standard Supporter
    Hey how about SloJoe lying about everything under the sun including his son being killed in Iraq or some bullshit. No calls for resignation. Schiff? Clinton? Pelosi? It's a long fucking list...
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,076 Founders Club
    Whataboutism only works one way. You can't bring up democrats when its a GOP

    Make no mistake this Santos guy is a piece of shit like most politicians. So at this point what difference does it make? Biden is a serial liar and has been for decades

    Al Franken is the lone example that gets trotted out every time the subject comes up. Well plenty of GOP have resigned as well

    Franken grabbed some boobs as Me Too was being used to bludgeon the GOP. Bad timing on his part

    The GOP tends to self report to lose the right way like our DAWGS. The democrats just get bigger bagmen to win at any cost

    The OP tweeter is right. This isn't a morality play any more than college football is
  • hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344

    Whataboutism only works one way. You can't bring up democrats when its a GOP

    Make no mistake this Santos guy is a piece of shit like most politicians. So at this point what difference does it make? Biden is a serial liar and has been for decades

    Al Franken is the lone example that gets trotted out every time the subject comes up. Well plenty of GOP have resigned as well

    Franken grabbed some boobs as Me Too was being used to bludgeon the GOP. Bad timing on his part

    The GOP tends to self report to lose the right way like our DAWGS. The democrats just get bigger bagmen to win at any cost

    The OP tweeter is right. This isn't a morality play any more than college football is

  • hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    I think if it's OK for Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden to lie, then it really doesn't matter.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,252
    hardhat said:

    I think if it's OK for Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden to lie, then it really doesn't matter.

    Don't forget da nang Dick Blumenthal.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,969 Standard Supporter
    They are all lying sacks a shit in 99 and 44/100ths of the studies I've done.
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