I’d be interested in some adderal analysis of this as well @whlinder! Great season for the Pac and I’ve wondered a few times where it stacks up with other strong years.
I’d be interested in some adderal analysis of this as well @whlinder! Great season for the Pac and I’ve wondered a few times where it stacks up with other strong years.
One of the hardest things to do is define what "strong" means as a conference.
Is it A. a few super high-end teams with piles of garbage everywhere else? (SEC most years) B. Closely clustered top to bottom, with slightly better teams winning the conference, or perhaps 1 outstanding team, and last place not being terrible (Big 12 this year) C. No high end teams but half the conference is really good and ranked (P12 this year)
College football is also a fairly limited sample size, so unless there are some big time non-conference wins or bowl wins, it's hard to claim greatness. This year we have wins over average Wisconsin, below average MSU, Notre Dame x2, the top 2 teams in the Mountain West, but got embarrassed against the best SEC team and also lost to middling Florida.
2000 Pac-10 has the U win but also: UCLA beat an Alabama team which would finish 3-9, 7-5 Fresno State and 9-3 Michigan. USC beat 5-7 Penn State and a bad Colorado team, but lost to ND Stanford beat a 9-3 Texas team (one of the 3 losses was to Oregon in the Holiday bowl)
Only Stanford finished .500 in conference, every other team was below .500.
I’d be interested in some adderal analysis of this as well @whlinder! Great season for the Pac and I’ve wondered a few times where it stacks up with other strong years.
One of the hardest things to do is define what "strong" means as a conference.
Is it A. a few super high-end teams with piles of garbage everywhere else? (SEC most years) B. Closely clustered top to bottom, with slightly better teams winning the conference, or perhaps 1 outstanding team, and last place not being terrible (Big 12 this year) C. No high end teams but half the conference is really good and ranked (P12 this year)
College football is also a fairly limited sample size, so unless there are some big time non-conference wins or bowl wins, it's hard to claim greatness. This year we have wins over average Wisconsin, below average MSU, Notre Dame x2, the top 2 teams in the Mountain West, but got embarrassed against the best SEC team and also lost to middling Florida.
2000 Pac-10 has the U win but also: UCLA beat an Alabama team which would finish 3-9, 7-5 Fresno State and 9-3 Michigan. USC beat 5-7 Penn State and a bad Colorado team, but lost to ND Stanford beat a 9-3 Texas team (one of the 3 losses was to Oregon in the Holiday bowl)
Only Stanford finished .500 in conference, every other team was below .500.
I’d be interested in some adderal analysis of this as well @whlinder! Great season for the Pac and I’ve wondered a few times where it stacks up with other strong years.
One of the hardest things to do is define what "strong" means as a conference.
Is it A. a few super high-end teams with piles of garbage everywhere else? (SEC most years) B. Closely clustered top to bottom, with slightly better teams winning the conference, or perhaps 1 outstanding team, and last place not being terrible (Big 12 this year) C. No high end teams but half the conference is really good and ranked (P12 this year)
College football is also a fairly limited sample size, so unless there are some big time non-conference wins or bowl wins, it's hard to claim greatness. This year we have wins over average Wisconsin, below average MSU, Notre Dame x2, the top 2 teams in the Mountain West, but got embarrassed against the best SEC team and also lost to middling Florida.
2000 Pac-10 has the U win but also: UCLA beat an Alabama team which would finish 3-9, 7-5 Fresno State and 9-3 Michigan. USC beat 5-7 Penn State and a bad Colorado team, but lost to ND Stanford beat a 9-3 Texas team (one of the 3 losses was to Oregon in the Holiday bowl)
Only Stanford finished .500 in conference, every other team was below .500.
I'd throw in Michigan dusting Ohio State, especially since Kienholz was there.
I'd really love if Emeka and JTT Never beat Michigan or make a CFP while they're there.
Michigan is infinitely more likeable than OSU, and Harbs has built the kind of throat fucking football team that we here at HH cream our jeans over. Watching them drag the limp bodies of buckeyes up and down the field was a genuine joy.
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Is it
A. a few super high-end teams with piles of garbage everywhere else? (SEC most years)
B. Closely clustered top to bottom, with slightly better teams winning the conference, or perhaps 1 outstanding team, and last place not being terrible (Big 12 this year)
C. No high end teams but half the conference is really good and ranked (P12 this year)
College football is also a fairly limited sample size, so unless there are some big time non-conference wins or bowl wins, it's hard to claim greatness. This year we have wins over average Wisconsin, below average MSU, Notre Dame x2, the top 2 teams in the Mountain West, but got embarrassed against the best SEC team and also lost to middling Florida.
2000 Pac-10 has the U win but also:
UCLA beat an Alabama team which would finish 3-9, 7-5 Fresno State and 9-3 Michigan.
USC beat 5-7 Penn State and a bad Colorado team, but lost to ND
Stanford beat a 9-3 Texas team (one of the 3 losses was to Oregon in the Holiday bowl)
Only Stanford finished .500 in conference, every other team was below .500.
I'd really love if Emeka and JTT Never beat Michigan or make a CFP while they're there.
But he'll endeavor to persevere