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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,232

    Tequilla said:

    HFNY said:

    Tequilla said:

    I realize the portal changes how quickly you can rebuild a program … but doesn’t it feel like there’s going to be a very definitive bottoming out of young developing talent on this roster at some point in the near future?

    I'm not sure I follow you, do you mean that the newish staff is focusing more on transfers and Jucos and less on getting in high school kids that they can develop for a year or two before they start?
    Pretty much

    I view JCs and transfers as routes to augment gaps in your roster and not as an annual solution

    The more years that you lean on JCs and transfers to field a roster the more that you’re effectively going to require more numbers to fill those holes

    That doesn’t even account for the lack of depth (big factor in ASU loss) that this approach almost assuredly will result in
    82 of the 114 players on this year's team are underclassmen and we have 18 commits for this year's class. I think the coaches realize they need someone to bridge the gap next year given how our freshmen and sophomore DBs played this year. I'm not seeing the JUCO or Portal route helping out any other position groups, so it might not be a major concern
    Let’s look at the numbers after the season … I suspect there are going to be some players portaling out as well
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,525
    Definitely, at least two DBs and maybe 1 OL, 1 DL will portal out.

    I see at least two DBs coming in via JC or portals coming in and maybe a QB depending on what happens with Lincoln K. Probably 1 more player at another position (DE or LB). But still that would only be 4 or 5.
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    HFNY said:

    Tequilla said:

    I realize the portal changes how quickly you can rebuild a program … but doesn’t it feel like there’s going to be a very definitive bottoming out of young developing talent on this roster at some point in the near future?

    I'm not sure I follow you, do you mean that the newish staff is focusing more on transfers and Jucos and less on getting in high school kids that they can develop for a year or two before they start?
    Pretty much

    I view JCs and transfers as routes to augment gaps in your roster and not as an annual solution

    The more years that you lean on JCs and transfers to field a roster the more that you’re effectively going to require more numbers to fill those holes

    That doesn’t even account for the lack of depth (big factor in ASU loss) that this approach almost assuredly will result in
    82 of the 114 players on this year's team are underclassmen and we have 18 commits for this year's class. I think the coaches realize they need someone to bridge the gap next year given how our freshmen and sophomore DBs played this year. I'm not seeing the JUCO or Portal route helping out any other position groups, so it might not be a major concern
    Let’s look at the numbers after the season … I suspect there are going to be some players portaling out as well
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 13,014
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    HFNY said:

    Tequilla said:

    I realize the portal changes how quickly you can rebuild a program … but doesn’t it feel like there’s going to be a very definitive bottoming out of young developing talent on this roster at some point in the near future?

    I'm not sure I follow you, do you mean that the newish staff is focusing more on transfers and Jucos and less on getting in high school kids that they can develop for a year or two before they start?
    Pretty much

    I view JCs and transfers as routes to augment gaps in your roster and not as an annual solution

    The more years that you lean on JCs and transfers to field a roster the more that you’re effectively going to require more numbers to fill those holes

    That doesn’t even account for the lack of depth (big factor in ASU loss) that this approach almost assuredly will result in
    82 of the 114 players on this year's team are underclassmen and we have 18 commits for this year's class. I think the coaches realize they need someone to bridge the gap next year given how our freshmen and sophomore DBs played this year. I'm not seeing the JUCO or Portal route helping out any other position groups, so it might not be a major concern
    Let’s look at the numbers after the season … I suspect there are going to be some players portaling out as well
    Yeah, I'm expecting 6-8 players portaling after the season, plus a few others retiring. I still think DB is the only one where we'd consider a portal or JUCO, thought I wouldn't be surprised what happens with QB when Keinholz flips to tOSU.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,232

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    HFNY said:

    Tequilla said:

    I realize the portal changes how quickly you can rebuild a program … but doesn’t it feel like there’s going to be a very definitive bottoming out of young developing talent on this roster at some point in the near future?

    I'm not sure I follow you, do you mean that the newish staff is focusing more on transfers and Jucos and less on getting in high school kids that they can develop for a year or two before they start?
    Pretty much

    I view JCs and transfers as routes to augment gaps in your roster and not as an annual solution

    The more years that you lean on JCs and transfers to field a roster the more that you’re effectively going to require more numbers to fill those holes

    That doesn’t even account for the lack of depth (big factor in ASU loss) that this approach almost assuredly will result in
    82 of the 114 players on this year's team are underclassmen and we have 18 commits for this year's class. I think the coaches realize they need someone to bridge the gap next year given how our freshmen and sophomore DBs played this year. I'm not seeing the JUCO or Portal route helping out any other position groups, so it might not be a major concern
    Let’s look at the numbers after the season … I suspect there are going to be some players portaling out as well
    Yeah, I'm expecting 6-8 players portaling after the season, plus a few others retiring. I still think DB is the only one where we'd consider a portal or JUCO, thought I wouldn't be surprised what happens with QB when Keinholz flips to tOSU.
    With the way things are with programs and portals I’d baseline 10+ for basically any program

    Perhaps I’ll go through the roster after the season and look at what players I think are an early departure risk for whatever reason
  • CallMeBigErn
    CallMeBigErn Member Posts: 8,028
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    HFNY said:

    Tequilla said:

    I realize the portal changes how quickly you can rebuild a program … but doesn’t it feel like there’s going to be a very definitive bottoming out of young developing talent on this roster at some point in the near future?

    I'm not sure I follow you, do you mean that the newish staff is focusing more on transfers and Jucos and less on getting in high school kids that they can develop for a year or two before they start?
    Pretty much

    I view JCs and transfers as routes to augment gaps in your roster and not as an annual solution

    The more years that you lean on JCs and transfers to field a roster the more that you’re effectively going to require more numbers to fill those holes

    That doesn’t even account for the lack of depth (big factor in ASU loss) that this approach almost assuredly will result in
    82 of the 114 players on this year's team are underclassmen and we have 18 commits for this year's class. I think the coaches realize they need someone to bridge the gap next year given how our freshmen and sophomore DBs played this year. I'm not seeing the JUCO or Portal route helping out any other position groups, so it might not be a major concern
    Let’s look at the numbers after the season … I suspect there are going to be some players portaling out as well
    Yeah, I'm expecting 6-8 players portaling after the season, plus a few others retiring. I still think DB is the only one where we'd consider a portal or JUCO, thought I wouldn't be surprised what happens with QB when Keinholz flips to tOSU.
    With the way things are with programs and portals I’d baseline 10+ for basically any program

    Perhaps I’ll go through the roster after the season and look at what players I think are an early departure risk for whatever reason
    Your posts make me wonder why I learned to read.
  • DoogerMcFarland
    DoogerMcFarland Member Posts: 745
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    HFNY said:

    Tequilla said:

    I realize the portal changes how quickly you can rebuild a program … but doesn’t it feel like there’s going to be a very definitive bottoming out of young developing talent on this roster at some point in the near future?

    I'm not sure I follow you, do you mean that the newish staff is focusing more on transfers and Jucos and less on getting in high school kids that they can develop for a year or two before they start?
    Pretty much

    I view JCs and transfers as routes to augment gaps in your roster and not as an annual solution

    The more years that you lean on JCs and transfers to field a roster the more that you’re effectively going to require more numbers to fill those holes

    That doesn’t even account for the lack of depth (big factor in ASU loss) that this approach almost assuredly will result in
    82 of the 114 players on this year's team are underclassmen and we have 18 commits for this year's class. I think the coaches realize they need someone to bridge the gap next year given how our freshmen and sophomore DBs played this year. I'm not seeing the JUCO or Portal route helping out any other position groups, so it might not be a major concern
    Let’s look at the numbers after the season … I suspect there are going to be some players portaling out as well
    Yeah, I'm expecting 6-8 players portaling after the season, plus a few others retiring. I still think DB is the only one where we'd consider a portal or JUCO, thought I wouldn't be surprised what happens with QB when Keinholz flips to tOSU.
    With the way things are with programs and portals I’d baseline 10+ for basically any program

    Perhaps I’ll go through the roster after the season and look at what players I think are an early departure risk for whatever reason
    I'm on the edge of my seat.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,232

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    HFNY said:

    Tequilla said:

    I realize the portal changes how quickly you can rebuild a program … but doesn’t it feel like there’s going to be a very definitive bottoming out of young developing talent on this roster at some point in the near future?

    I'm not sure I follow you, do you mean that the newish staff is focusing more on transfers and Jucos and less on getting in high school kids that they can develop for a year or two before they start?
    Pretty much

    I view JCs and transfers as routes to augment gaps in your roster and not as an annual solution

    The more years that you lean on JCs and transfers to field a roster the more that you’re effectively going to require more numbers to fill those holes

    That doesn’t even account for the lack of depth (big factor in ASU loss) that this approach almost assuredly will result in
    82 of the 114 players on this year's team are underclassmen and we have 18 commits for this year's class. I think the coaches realize they need someone to bridge the gap next year given how our freshmen and sophomore DBs played this year. I'm not seeing the JUCO or Portal route helping out any other position groups, so it might not be a major concern
    Let’s look at the numbers after the season … I suspect there are going to be some players portaling out as well
    Yeah, I'm expecting 6-8 players portaling after the season, plus a few others retiring. I still think DB is the only one where we'd consider a portal or JUCO, thought I wouldn't be surprised what happens with QB when Keinholz flips to tOSU.
    With the way things are with programs and portals I’d baseline 10+ for basically any program

    Perhaps I’ll go through the roster after the season and look at what players I think are an early departure risk for whatever reason
    Your posts make me wonder why I learned to read.
    If you go stare into the sun long enough you won’t have that problem anymore
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,525

    😉

    So you're saying Lyons is going to pop to the Huskies soon huh?
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,942
    HFNY said:

    😉

    So you're saying Lyons is going to pop to the Huskies soon huh?
    Miami people are saying he doesn't want to leave the west coast