Potential Fuckery Afoot in P12 title race.

Doogles

There is a decent chance the end of the year can see a 4 way tie for 2nd place in title game.

Utah beats Oregon.

UCLA beats USC.

2 loss UW beat 2 loss Oregon beat 2 loss UCLA beat 2 loss SC(andUW)

I have no clue what tiebreaker would exist here, but in this scenario UW would likely have the highest CFP ranking of the 4 and best overall record.


God Damn ASU game.

Doogles

UWs most likely path to the title game relies on Beavlet winning the civil war.

SC will probably crush UCLA and Oregon is favored to beat Utah (though we'll see what's up with nix)

This scenario SC is in and we're in a three way tie with Oregon, Utah. Again not sure how it works, but if it's ranking we're probably at the top, overall record we're at the top, and record against the three we are the best as we didn't play Utah.

1to392831weretaken

Ute could technically catch teamwide FBA and lose to Colorado, thus creating a five-way tie for first.

No way is UW highest CFP ranking in this scenario. Would easily have the worst loss of the bunch (ASU).

Doogles

Pulled from Pac website. We are probably fucked.


Multiple-Team Ties

In the event of a tie between more than two teams, the following procedures will be used. After one team has an advantage and is “seeded”, all remaining teams in the multiple-team tie-breaker will repeat the multiple-team tie-breaking procedure. If at any point the multiple-team tie is reduced to two teams, the two-team tie-breaking procedure will be applied.

1) Head-to-head (best cumulative win percentage in games among the tied teams). If not every tied team has played each other, go to step 2.

2) Win percentage against all common conference opponents (must be common among all teams involved in the tie)

3) Record against the next highest placed common opponent in the standings (based on record in all games played within the conference), proceeding through the standings.

When arriving at another group of tied teams while comparing records, use each team’s win percentage against the collective tied teams as a group (prior to that group’s own tie-breaking procedure) rather than the performance against individual tied teams.

4) Combined win percentage in conference games of conference opponents (ie, strength of conference schedule)

5)Highest ranking by SportSource Analytics (team Rating Score metric) following the last weekend of regular-season games.

6)Coin toss

Doogles

1to392831weretaken said:

Ute could technically catch teamwide FBA and lose to Colorado, thus creating a five-way tie for first.

No way is UW highest CFP ranking in this scenario. Would easily have the worst loss of the bunch (ASU).

You're probably right, but the recency of the losses of UTE, Oregon, UCLA, and SC in these scenarios have them all trending the wrong way while UW would finish most likely top 12 assuming they win out. It's possible.

It also appears it doesn't really matter as cfp ranking has zero meaning with the tiebreaker.

BEAT BUFFS, NOTHING ELSE MATTERS

1to392831weretaken

Doogles said:

1to392831weretaken said:

Ute could technically catch teamwide FBA and lose to Colorado, thus creating a five-way tie for first.

No way is UW highest CFP ranking in this scenario. Would easily have the worst loss of the bunch (ASU).

You're probably right, but the recency of the losses of UTE, Oregon, UCLA, and SC in these scenarios have them all trending the wrong way while UW would finish most likely top 12 assuming they win out. It's possible.

It also appears it doesn't really matter as cfp ranking has zero meaning with the tiebreaker.

BEAT BUFFS, NOTHING ELSE MATTERS

Holy shit, I didn't realize this whole time that UCLA lost. That's easily then the worst loss of the group.

whatshouldicareabout

Doogles said:

Pulled from Pac website. We are probably fucked.


Multiple-Team Ties

In the event of a tie between more than two teams, the following procedures will be used. After one team has an advantage and is “seeded”, all remaining teams in the multiple-team tie-breaker will repeat the multiple-team tie-breaking procedure. If at any point the multiple-team tie is reduced to two teams, the two-team tie-breaking procedure will be applied.

1) Head-to-head (best cumulative win percentage in games among the tied teams). If not every tied team has played each other, go to step 2.

2) Win percentage against all common conference opponents (must be common among all teams involved in the tie)

3) Record against the next highest placed common opponent in the standings (based on record in all games played within the conference), proceeding through the standings.

When arriving at another group of tied teams while comparing records, use each team’s win percentage against the collective tied teams as a group (prior to that group’s own tie-breaking procedure) rather than the performance against individual tied teams.

4) Combined win percentage in conference games of conference opponents (ie, strength of conference schedule)

5)Highest ranking by SportSource Analytics (team Rating Score metric) following the last weekend of regular-season games.

6)Coin toss

There's a mathematics possibility, but the most realistic hope could be to win out and back into a NY6 like in 2017

Doogles

whatshouldicareabout said:

Doogles said:

Pulled from Pac website. We are probably fucked.


Multiple-Team Ties

In the event of a tie between more than two teams, the following procedures will be used. After one team has an advantage and is “seeded”, all remaining teams in the multiple-team tie-breaker will repeat the multiple-team tie-breaking procedure. If at any point the multiple-team tie is reduced to two teams, the two-team tie-breaking procedure will be applied.

1) Head-to-head (best cumulative win percentage in games among the tied teams). If not every tied team has played each other, go to step 2.

2) Win percentage against all common conference opponents (must be common among all teams involved in the tie)

3) Record against the next highest placed common opponent in the standings (based on record in all games played within the conference), proceeding through the standings.

When arriving at another group of tied teams while comparing records, use each team’s win percentage against the collective tied teams as a group (prior to that group’s own tie-breaking procedure) rather than the performance against individual tied teams.

4) Combined win percentage in conference games of conference opponents (ie, strength of conference schedule)

5)Highest ranking by SportSource Analytics (team Rating Score metric) following the last weekend of regular-season games.

6)Coin toss

There's a mathematics possibility, but the most realistic hope could be to win out and back into a NY6 like in 2017

This is the way. If SC wins out they are going to the playoff.

Swaye

don't worry @Doogles we? will lose to Coug so the maff won't hurt your brain anymore.

NeGgaPlEaSe

Doogles said:

There is a decent chance the end of the year can see a 4 way tie for 2nd place in title game.

Utah beats Oregon.

UCLA beats USC.

2 loss UW beat 2 loss Oregon beat 2 loss UCLA beat 2 loss SC(andUW)

I have no clue what tiebreaker would exist here, but in this scenario UW would likely have the highest CFP ranking of the 4 and best overall record.


God Damn ASU game.

Oregon will loose 2 games. No way the beat Oregon State

CFetters_Nacho_Lover

Utah & Oregon each have 2 losses but only 1 conference loss. I assume conference record takes precedence over overall record.

If so, UW needs each of UCLA, Utah, & Oregon to lose 1 more game.

Oregon beats Utah but loses the civil war and USC beats UCLA is the most likely path to the Pac12 championship game.

CFetters_Nacho_Lover

And yeah, that ASU should haunt DeBoer for years to come.

DerekJohnson

Kudos to whichever poster called the UCLA loss earlier this week

pawz

Swaye said:

don't worry @Doogles we? will lose to Coug so the maff won't hurt your brain anymore.

There was madness in any direction, at any hour. You could strike sparks anywhere. There was a fantastic universal sense that whatever we were doing was right, that we were winning.

1to392831weretaken

NeGgaPlEaSe said:

Doogles said:

There is a decent chance the end of the year can see a 4 way tie for 2nd place in title game.

Utah beats Oregon.

UCLA beats USC.

2 loss UW beat 2 loss Oregon beat 2 loss UCLA beat 2 loss SC(andUW)

I have no clue what tiebreaker would exist here, but in this scenario UW would likely have the highest CFP ranking of the 4 and best overall record.


God Damn ASU game.

Oregon will loose 2 games. No way the beat Oregon State

This is the second or third thread where I've seen you mention that Oregon will lose to OSU, but I think this completely ignores that they have a much bigger Utah problem looming, and Nix is clearly hobbled. There's a real possibility they drop both, but Utah is more likely if it's only one.

Joey

We need to find out where the P12 ballot harvesting is taking place and intercede

WoolleyDoog

DerekJohnson said:

Kudos to whichever poster called the UCLA loss earlier this week

Me

rodmansrage

Doogles said:

UWs most likely path to the title game relies on Beavlet winning the civil war.

SC will probably crush UCLA and Oregon is favored to beat Utah (though we'll see what's up with nix)

utah facefucked Oregon twice last year. bo nix hurt or not ain’t gonna be the difference maker.

I like Utah in Eugene next week, get all the screenshots you need.

RoadDawg55

Doogles said:

whatshouldicareabout said:

Doogles said:

Pulled from Pac website. We are probably fucked.


Multiple-Team Ties

In the event of a tie between more than two teams, the following procedures will be used. After one team has an advantage and is “seeded”, all remaining teams in the multiple-team tie-breaker will repeat the multiple-team tie-breaking procedure. If at any point the multiple-team tie is reduced to two teams, the two-team tie-breaking procedure will be applied.

1) Head-to-head (best cumulative win percentage in games among the tied teams). If not every tied team has played each other, go to step 2.

2) Win percentage against all common conference opponents (must be common among all teams involved in the tie)

3) Record against the next highest placed common opponent in the standings (based on record in all games played within the conference), proceeding through the standings.

When arriving at another group of tied teams while comparing records, use each team’s win percentage against the collective tied teams as a group (prior to that group’s own tie-breaking procedure) rather than the performance against individual tied teams.

4) Combined win percentage in conference games of conference opponents (ie, strength of conference schedule)

5)Highest ranking by SportSource Analytics (team Rating Score metric) following the last weekend of regular-season games.

6)Coin toss

There's a mathematics possibility, but the most realistic hope could be to win out and back into a NY6 like in 2017

This is the way. If SC wins out they are going to the playoff.

I don’t think they will. They are nothing special.

NeGgaPlEaSe

1to392831weretaken said:

NeGgaPlEaSe said:

Doogles said:

There is a decent chance the end of the year can see a 4 way tie for 2nd place in title game.

Utah beats Oregon.

UCLA beats USC.

2 loss UW beat 2 loss Oregon beat 2 loss UCLA beat 2 loss SC(andUW)

I have no clue what tiebreaker would exist here, but in this scenario UW would likely have the highest CFP ranking of the 4 and best overall record.


God Damn ASU game.

Oregon will loose 2 games. No way the beat Oregon State

This is the second or third thread where I've seen you mention that Oregon will lose to OSU, but I think this completely ignores that they have a much bigger Utah problem looming, and Nix is clearly hobbled. There's a real possibility they drop both, but Utah is more likely if it's only one.

I see both happening, and Utah with Nix hurt is more likely. But a bunch of 5 stars with nothing to play for in Corvallis on a cold rainy day after dropping 2 straight doesn’t look great either.

8-4 possible loss in bowl game

creepycoug

rodmansrage said:

Doogles said:

UWs most likely path to the title game relies on Beavlet winning the civil war.

SC will probably crush UCLA and Oregon is favored to beat Utah (though we'll see what's up with nix)

utah facefucked Oregon twice last year. bo nix hurt or not ain’t gonna be the difference maker.

I like Utah in Eugene next week, get all the screenshots you need.

that's not even rational, even on the Monday after the big hangover. of course it's the difference maker. it's the only difference maker. Oregon stands no chance at all against anybody else they play the rest of the way w/o Nix because they don't have a backup.