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Jack Python Westover > Jack Cobra Browning
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I'm so fucked on this.
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Imagine paying money to be educated in Eugene.
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What does one do as an Oregon resident though?BleachedAnusDawg said:Imagine paying money to be educated in Eugene.
I generally think private schools and out of state tuition are a waste of money unless there is some slam dunk ROI and you've got @creepycoug kid's level academis prowess. -
If you're from a state with decent public schools.YellowSnow said:
What does one do as an Oregon resident though?BleachedAnusDawg said:Imagine paying money to be educated in Eugene.
I generally think private schools and out of state tuition are a waste of money unless there is some slam dunk ROI and you've got @creepycoug kid's level academis prowess.
The maff is different if you're not.
My kid's top choice is Penn State, and I have been blowing her shit about the cost of it compared to the value of UVA/VaTech (VA resident). She got so sick of it she tried to convince me her top choice was now Oregon. I told her that's fine it can be but you can pay for the whole damn thing and also fuck off.
Needs to work on her bluffing ability. -
Obviously UVA falls into the "Public Ivy" (LOL) category and Penn State is not. But it's not like Penn State or UO are terrible schools for academis.whlinder said:
If you're from a state with decent public schools.YellowSnow said:
What does one do as an Oregon resident though?BleachedAnusDawg said:Imagine paying money to be educated in Eugene.
I generally think private schools and out of state tuition are a waste of money unless there is some slam dunk ROI and you've got @creepycoug kid's level academis prowess.
The maff is different if you're not.
My kid's top choice is Penn State, and I have been blowing her shit about the cost of it compared to the value of UVA/VaTech (VA resident). She got so sick of it she tried to convince me her top choice was now Oregon. I told her that's fine it can be but you can pay for the whole damn thing and also fuck off.
Needs to work on her bluffing ability.
But still they aren't places you should strive to attend out of state. -
I don't want to be a dick here to my fellow Sean Taylor guy (hi @RoadDawg55 ), but your dilemma isn't just in-state tuition vs. out of state tuition, but UVa is just a much more elite school with a much better academic reputation. If I lived in Pennsylvania and my kid got into UVa and PSU, I'd pay the OOS for UVa. Va. Tech less so, but not much less so.whlinder said:
If you're from a state with decent public schools.YellowSnow said:
What does one do as an Oregon resident though?BleachedAnusDawg said:Imagine paying money to be educated in Eugene.
I generally think private schools and out of state tuition are a waste of money unless there is some slam dunk ROI and you've got @creepycoug kid's level academis prowess.
The maff is different if you're not.
My kid's top choice is Penn State, and I have been blowing her shit about the cost of it compared to the value of UVA/VaTech (VA resident). She got so sick of it she tried to convince me her top choice was now Oregon. I told her that's fine it can be but you can pay for the whole damn thing and also fuck off.
Needs to work on her bluffing ability.
So, yeah, in that case, I'd say, no. -
What about Bellevue CC?dnc said: -
UW's surge in the academic world is largely a function of its QS world rankings, which focuses on a few variables that work well for Washington. But those same rankings tell me I should choose ASU over Dartmouth and has schools like Arizona pegged above schools like UVa or Vanderbilt; so, depending on who you are and what you value, that's either fubar or gold Jerry, gold.YellowSnow said:
What does one do as an Oregon resident though?BleachedAnusDawg said:Imagine paying money to be educated in Eugene.
I generally think private schools and out of state tuition are a waste of money unless there is some slam dunk ROI and you've got @creepycoug kid's level academis prowess.
UW is quite elite in some key areas, like comp. sci and biotech, and I'm proud of that as an alumnus. But as serious adult talk in the real world, outside of things like that, I don't think it matters. Haie has a lot of good fun with it, but the UW and UO history major are going to be treated pretty equally and you're not going to convince me anybody knows whether one received a better education than the other.
I also try and remember that it's harder to get into UO, OSU, WSU, UA and ASU now than it was for me to get into UW when I did, and a lot of the things that make UW stand out now were non-existent when I graduated. So for a lot of us, walking around with academis superiority boners makes about as much sense as it did for Jimmy Lake ... or Mahler himself, who tells Twatter that he didn't finish community college.
Turning it around: UW will typically trail (by a lot) Cal, UCLA and Michigan, and by less, Illinois, Wisky, UNC CH and UT. Hell, there are more than a few rankings (including US News) that has Florida ranked higher than UW. Do I think those schools are better, much less a lot better, than UW, or more ridiculously, that those kids are getting a better education than they would at UW? No, I don't.
It's suck-my-dick week. Which means everyone is on @haie alert and the fur and the feathers are flying.
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@creepycoug takes to bait every time to provide @Tequilla long; dr academis ranking hawt talk. And we love him for it.creepycoug said:
UW's surge in the academic world is largely a function of its QS world rankings, which focuses on a few variables that work well for Washington. But those same rankings tell me I should choose ASU over Dartmouth and has schools like Arizona pegged above schools like UVa or Vanderbilt; so, depending on who you are and what you value, that's either fubar or gold Jerry, gold.YellowSnow said:
What does one do as an Oregon resident though?BleachedAnusDawg said:Imagine paying money to be educated in Eugene.
I generally think private schools and out of state tuition are a waste of money unless there is some slam dunk ROI and you've got @creepycoug kid's level academis prowess.
UW is quite elite in some key areas, like comp. sci and biotech, and I'm proud of that as an alumnus. But as serious adult talk in the real world, outside of things like that, I don't think it matters. Haie has a lot of good fun with it, but the UW and UO history major are going to be treated pretty equally and you're not going to convince me anybody knows whether one received a better education than the other.
I also try and remember that it's harder to get into UO, OSU, WSU, UA and ASU now than it was for me to get into UW when I did, and a lot of the things that make UW stand out now were non-existent when I graduated. So for a lot of us, walking around with academis superiority boners makes about as much sense as it did for Jimmy Lake ... or Mahler himself, who tells Twatter that he didn't finish community college.
Turning it around: UW will typically trail (by a lot) Cal, UCLA and Michigan, and by less, Illinois, Wisky, UNC CH and UT. Hell, there are more than a few rankings (including US News) that has Florida ranked higher than UW. Do I think those schools are better, much less a lot better, than UW, or more ridiculously, that those kids are getting a better education than they would at UW? No, I don't.
It's suck-my-dick week. Which means everyone is on @haie alert and the fur and the feathers are flying.
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It’s fucking obvious.YellowSnow said:
What does one do as an Oregon resident though?BleachedAnusDawg said:Imagine paying money to be educated in Eugene.
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I was going to say. If you grow up in Oregon and go to UO over Oregon State you are legally retarded and should just go get a full time caregiver.BennyBeaver said:
It’s fucking obvious.YellowSnow said:
What does one do as an Oregon resident though?BleachedAnusDawg said:Imagine paying money to be educated in Eugene.
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You are smart AF to do UW undergrad + JD so I give you a pass, but when it comes to these things you can't live in the past.creepycoug said:
UW's surge in the academic world is largely a function of its QS world rankings, which focuses on a few variables that work well for Washington. But those same rankings tell me I should choose ASU over Dartmouth and has schools like Arizona pegged above schools like UVa or Vanderbilt; so, depending on who you are and what you value, that's either fubar or gold Jerry, gold.YellowSnow said:
What does one do as an Oregon resident though?BleachedAnusDawg said:Imagine paying money to be educated in Eugene.
I generally think private schools and out of state tuition are a waste of money unless there is some slam dunk ROI and you've got @creepycoug kid's level academis prowess.
UW is quite elite in some key areas, like comp. sci and biotech, and I'm proud of that as an alumnus. But as serious adult talk in the real world, outside of things like that, I don't think it matters. Haie has a lot of good fun with it, but the UW and UO history major are going to be treated pretty equally and you're not going to convince me anybody knows whether one received a better education than the other.
I also try and remember that it's harder to get into UO, OSU, WSU, UA and ASU now than it was for me to get into UW when I did, and a lot of the things that make UW stand out now were non-existent when I graduated. So for a lot of us, walking around with academis superiority boners makes about as much sense as it did for Jimmy Lake ... or Mahler himself, who tells Twatter that he didn't finish community college.
Turning it around: UW will typically trail (by a lot) Cal, UCLA and Michigan, and by less, Illinois, Wisky, UNC CH and UT. Hell, there are more than a few rankings (including US News) that has Florida ranked higher than UW. Do I think those schools are better, much less a lot better, than UW, or more ridiculously, that those kids are getting a better education than they would at UW? No, I don't.
It's suck-my-dick week. Which means everyone is on @haie alert and the fur and the feathers are flying.
And the reality is UW was really hard to get into when I went there, and it's extremely hard now. They want to be Berkeley. Doesn't matter that they aren't.
It's a different game than Oregon and the state schools.
But the state schools still do a pretty good job and get what needs to be taught in 2022.
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I love Westy he has swag above his pay grade and makes clutch plays. He might be the next iteration of UW TE that we don't think that much of then goes on to play a decade in the league
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My father in lawhas a masters in civil engineering from Boove (ND undergrad) so maybe family influence can help.BennyBeaver said:
It’s fucking obvious.YellowSnow said:
What does one do as an Oregon resident though?BleachedAnusDawg said:Imagine paying money to be educated in Eugene.
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Move?BennyBeaver said:
It’s fucking obvious.YellowSnow said:
What does one do as an Oregon resident though?BleachedAnusDawg said:Imagine paying money to be educated in Eugene.
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When I was eight or nine years old my dad told me if Oregon was the only school I could get into he wouldn’t pay for it.YellowSnow said:
What does one do as an Oregon resident though?BleachedAnusDawg said:Imagine paying money to be educated in Eugene.
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First, fuck off Softy. You’re a mouth breathing retard.dnc said:
When I was eight or nine years old my dad told me if Oregon was the only school I could get into he wouldn’t pay for it.YellowSnow said:
What does one do as an Oregon resident though?BleachedAnusDawg said:Imagine paying money to be educated in Eugene.
I told all the Glovelets the same thing Westovers dad told him.
The deal was they already knew they’d never go there cuz I raised them the right way.
There no such thing as Duck Hate Week in my house. It’s Duck Hate Lifetime. -
YVBFEEBennyBeaver said:
First, fuck off Softy. You’re a mouth breathing retard.dnc said:
When I was eight or nine years old my dad told me if Oregon was the only school I could get into he wouldn’t pay for it.YellowSnow said:
What does one do as an Oregon resident though?BleachedAnusDawg said:Imagine paying money to be educated in Eugene.
I told all the Glovelets the same thing Westovers dad told him.
The deal was they already knew they’d never go there cuz I raised them the right way.
There no such thing as Duck Hate Week in my house. It’s Duck Hate Lifetime.
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#MyGolveBennyBeaver said:
First, fuck off Softy. You’re a mouth breathing retard.dnc said:
When I was eight or nine years old my dad told me if Oregon was the only school I could get into he wouldn’t pay for it.YellowSnow said:
What does one do as an Oregon resident though?BleachedAnusDawg said:Imagine paying money to be educated in Eugene.
I told all the Glovelets the same thing Westovers dad told him.
The deal was they already knew they’d never go there cuz I raised them the right way.
There no such thing as Duck Hate Week in my house. It’s Duck Hate Lifetime. -
DerGolve
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I agree. Washington has separated itself from that level of public institution, without question. UW was really hard to get into the department you were in and is next to impossible to get into today. That's a whole different animal than general admission and subsequently majoring in the arts and sciences, which is the biggest chunk. I thought this year's CDS stats were interesting. Both schools now test optional, so the % of students submitting scores is pretty low at both places: UW 27% and UO 33%. I personally think that's fubar but that's a whole other debate that likely gets us dragged into the Dirty Tug. With that low a % of test scores, I didn't study those too hard, but Washington's skew higher as you'd expect.haie said:
You are smart AF to do UW undergrad + JD so I give you a pass, but when it comes to these things you can't live in the past.creepycoug said:
UW's surge in the academic world is largely a function of its QS world rankings, which focuses on a few variables that work well for Washington. But those same rankings tell me I should choose ASU over Dartmouth and has schools like Arizona pegged above schools like UVa or Vanderbilt; so, depending on who you are and what you value, that's either fubar or gold Jerry, gold.YellowSnow said:
What does one do as an Oregon resident though?BleachedAnusDawg said:Imagine paying money to be educated in Eugene.
I generally think private schools and out of state tuition are a waste of money unless there is some slam dunk ROI and you've got @creepycoug kid's level academis prowess.
UW is quite elite in some key areas, like comp. sci and biotech, and I'm proud of that as an alumnus. But as serious adult talk in the real world, outside of things like that, I don't think it matters. Haie has a lot of good fun with it, but the UW and UO history major are going to be treated pretty equally and you're not going to convince me anybody knows whether one received a better education than the other.
I also try and remember that it's harder to get into UO, OSU, WSU, UA and ASU now than it was for me to get into UW when I did, and a lot of the things that make UW stand out now were non-existent when I graduated. So for a lot of us, walking around with academis superiority boners makes about as much sense as it did for Jimmy Lake ... or Mahler himself, who tells Twatter that he didn't finish community college.
Turning it around: UW will typically trail (by a lot) Cal, UCLA and Michigan, and by less, Illinois, Wisky, UNC CH and UT. Hell, there are more than a few rankings (including US News) that has Florida ranked higher than UW. Do I think those schools are better, much less a lot better, than UW, or more ridiculously, that those kids are getting a better education than they would at UW? No, I don't.
It's suck-my-dick week. Which means everyone is on @haie alert and the fur and the feathers are flying.
And the reality is UW was really hard to get into when I went there, and it's extremely hard now. They want to be Berkeley. Doesn't matter that they aren't.
It's a different game than Oregon and the state schools.
But the state schools still do a pretty good job and get what needs to be taught in 2022.
Oregon just puts out shit and tells their residents to eat it.
But the GPA comparisons were at least interesting. The distributions are different, but not shockingly so. It's almost what you'd guess ... higher % of kids in some of the lower distributions, but there are some interesting comparisons. Where UW separates is in that big bulk in the second band, and that is what has changed at UW from historical trends.
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UO
My only point is simply that for a good bulk of the undergraduate population, it won't matter in the end. UW has 36,000+ undergrads. The VAST majority of them aren't doing what you do. I'd say the same about a lot of schools. But, sure, if you want to be an engineer at SpaceX, do what my BIL did and make sure junior gets into Michigan and kicks ass while he's there.
If I lived in Oregon, I would pay the OOS for UW over either Oregon school because I have the money and UW has more to offer and I like Seattle more than Eugene. But if your kid would be going into arts & sciences at UW, or accounting or something like that, I wouldn't borrow for the difference. And, Oregon has some areas of strength on the science side ... not like Washington, but in the S and M (not so much the T and the E) of STEM, they have some strengths and are getting better as they continue to fundraise, a detail I wouldn't ignore. It takes 100 years to gain prestige in the humanities, but you can buy the sciences like a rented whore. See, for example, UW's biotech story and Leroy Hood. One day, Cal Tech was the center of the universe for that and UW didn't even have the department; the next day, because of Gates, all that moved to UW. They did just plow like a $1b or some crazy number into more science facilities.
Anyway, I took the bait, and we digress.
