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PAC-12 Title Game Path

Indulge me.

Assume we win out, beat Oregon and they lose to Utah or OSU. What else needs to happen for UW to make the title game? SC, Utah, and UCLA all have one loss.

My guess at this point we need UCLA to get to three losses and then we somehow win a tie breaker with USC and play Utah in the title game
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  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,284
    I thought UCLA needed to win yesterday for any realistic chance. Probably need Stanford to go on a tear because the tie breaker if you haven't played (for SC and Utah) is record against common opponent with the best record. Things have to fall very specifically at this point and the Ducks are going to destroy us anyways
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,700 Founders Club
    Even if UW eliminates Oregon and UCLA keeps losing, between UW Utah and SC, tie breaker probably goes to where we lost to ASU who both of those teams beat.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,436 Founders Club

    I think it’s time to accept that your? season now is BONEM and then enjoying whatever other misery Oregon experiences. Can’t take that defense anywhere serious and expect something good to happen.

    My sports book account can confirm.

  • DucksFC
    DucksFC Member Posts: 4,065

    I would also settle for a scenario that my wife thinks UW is in the title game and I find myself in Vegas for the weekend


  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,192

    I think it’s time to accept that your? season now is BONEM and then enjoying whatever other misery Oregon experiences. Can’t take that defense anywhere serious and expect something good to happen.

    Win an NY6
  • rodmansrage
    rodmansrage Member Posts: 6,376
    24/7 has us? in the cotton versus ucf and cbs has us? in the rose versus michigan.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,192

    24/7 has us? in the cotton versus ucf and cbs has us? in the rose versus michigan.

    Curb stomping UCF would be fun

    Idk if we want the Michigan smoke
  • whlinder
    whlinder Member Posts: 5,268
    Rose or Cotton are cool. Cotton because we’ve never been.

    Gotta win big and get some help.
  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,284
    whlinder said:

    Rose or Cotton are cool. Cotton because we’ve never been.

    Gotta win big and get some help.

    If we win out it there's no need for outside help
  • JaWarrenJaHooker
    JaWarrenJaHooker Member Posts: 2,122
    Beat Cuog nothing else matter
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,192
    If USC, UW, and Utah win out, then USC beats Utah, it creates an interesting scenario

    I think Utah would still go to the Rose, but UW at 10-2 likely gets an NY6

    Utah would be 10-3 with 2 conference losses and UW would be 10-2. I think Utah gets the Rose there by virtue of finishing 2nd, technically
  • whlinder
    whlinder Member Posts: 5,268
    I haven’t seen the tiebreaker scenarios for a 5 way tie at 7-2.

    UW win out
    UCLA win out
    UO win then lose
    Utah beats Colorado.

    Should end up with a common opponent tiebreak. How many teams in the conference played all 5 of them?
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,192
    whlinder said:

    I haven’t seen the tiebreaker scenarios for a 5 way tie at 7-2.

    UW win out
    UCLA win out
    UO win then lose
    Utah beats Colorado.

    Should end up with a common opponent tiebreak. How many teams in the conference played all 5 of them?

    Should end with who is highest in the CFP IMO

    Should be UCLA in the Rose, UW in another NY6
  • whlinder
    whlinder Member Posts: 5,268
    Multiple-Team Ties

    In the event of a tie between more than two teams, the following procedures will be used. After one team has an advantage and is “seeded”, all remaining teams in the multiple-team tie-breaker will repeat the multiple-team tie-breaking procedure. If at any point the multiple-team tie is reduced to two teams, the two-team tie-breaking procedure will be applied.

    Head-to-head (best cumulative win percentage in games among the tied teams). If not every tied team has played each other, go to step 2.
    Win percentage against all common conference opponents (must be common among all teams involved in the tie)
    Record against the next highest placed common opponent in the standings (based on record in all games played within the conference), proceeding through the standings.
    When arriving at another group of tied teams while comparing records, use each team’s win percentage against the collective tied teams as a group (prior to that group’s own tie-breaking procedure) rather than the performance against individual tied teams.
    Combined win percentage in conference games of conference opponents (ie, strength of conference schedule)
    Highest ranking by SportSource Analytics (team Rating Score metric) following the last weekend of regular-season games.
    Coin toss

    https://pac-12.com/football/standings
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,061 Founders Club

    If USC, UW, and Utah win out, then USC beats Utah, it creates an interesting scenario

    I think Utah would still go to the Rose, but UW at 10-2 likely gets an NY6

    Utah would be 10-3 with 2 conference losses and UW would be 10-2. I think Utah gets the Rose there by virtue of finishing 2nd, technically

    We should all be Duck fans this weekend @JoeEDangerously .

    If you aren't, you're a Doog.

    Doog
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    I can't root for monkey pox?
  • Joey
    Joey Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,256 Founders Club

    If USC, UW, and Utah win out, then USC beats Utah, it creates an interesting scenario

    I think Utah would still go to the Rose, but UW at 10-2 likely gets an NY6

    Utah would be 10-3 with 2 conference losses and UW would be 10-2. I think Utah gets the Rose there by virtue of finishing 2nd, technically

    We should all be Duck fans this weekend @JoeEDangerously .

    If you aren't, you're a Doog.

    Doog
    An alleged Husky fan who is obsessed with Oregon. Would like to see Oregon lose as much (or more than) seeing Washington win. The UW equivalent of a Coog.

    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/19794/new-glossary-of-hhb-terms-and-catch-phrases-revised-may-2015/p1
    I’ll be happy if they win. Fan? Let’s just say deeply closeted. Also you can’t ask me on the way home from Autzen
  • Joey
    Joey Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,256 Founders Club

    If USC, UW, and Utah win out, then USC beats Utah, it creates an interesting scenario

    I think Utah would still go to the Rose, but UW at 10-2 likely gets an NY6

    Utah would be 10-3 with 2 conference losses and UW would be 10-2. I think Utah gets the Rose there by virtue of finishing 2nd, technically

    We should all be Duck fans this weekend @JoeEDangerously .

    If you aren't, you're a Doog.

    Doog
    An alleged Husky fan who is obsessed with Oregon. Would like to see Oregon lose as much (or more than) seeing Washington win. The UW equivalent of a Coog.

    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/19794/new-glossary-of-hhb-terms-and-catch-phrases-revised-may-2015/p1
    I can't root for monkey pox?
    My general rooting interest in these cases is a sinkhole
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,237 Founders Club

    If USC, UW, and Utah win out, then USC beats Utah, it creates an interesting scenario

    I think Utah would still go to the Rose, but UW at 10-2 likely gets an NY6

    Utah would be 10-3 with 2 conference losses and UW would be 10-2. I think Utah gets the Rose there by virtue of finishing 2nd, technically

    We should all be Duck fans this weekend @JoeEDangerously .

    If you aren't, you're a Doog.

    Doog
    An alleged Husky fan who is obsessed with Oregon. Would like to see Oregon lose as much (or more than) seeing Washington win. The UW equivalent of a Coog.

    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/19794/new-glossary-of-hhb-terms-and-catch-phrases-revised-may-2015/p1
    I’ll be happy if they win. Fan? Let’s just say deeply closeted. Also you can’t ask me on the way home from Autzen
    And if the boys wanna fight, you better let 'em?
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    This is HH, we don't deal in hypotheticals
  • whlinder
    whlinder Member Posts: 5,268
    whlinder said:

    Multiple-Team Ties

    In the event of a tie between more than two teams, the following procedures will be used. After one team has an advantage and is “seeded”, all remaining teams in the multiple-team tie-breaker will repeat the multiple-team tie-breaking procedure. If at any point the multiple-team tie is reduced to two teams, the two-team tie-breaking procedure will be applied.

    Head-to-head (best cumulative win percentage in games among the tied teams). If not every tied team has played each other, go to step 2.
    Win percentage against all common conference opponents (must be common among all teams involved in the tie)
    Record against the next highest placed common opponent in the standings (based on record in all games played within the conference), proceeding through the standings.
    When arriving at another group of tied teams while comparing records, use each team’s win percentage against the collective tied teams as a group (prior to that group’s own tie-breaking procedure) rather than the performance against individual tied teams.
    Combined win percentage in conference games of conference opponents (ie, strength of conference schedule)
    Highest ranking by SportSource Analytics (team Rating Score metric) following the last weekend of regular-season games.
    Coin toss

    https://pac-12.com/football/standings

    whlinder said:

    I haven’t seen the tiebreaker scenarios for a 5 way tie at 7-2.

    UW win out
    UCLA win out
    UO win then lose
    Utah beats Colorado.

    Should end up with a common opponent tiebreak. How many teams in the conference played all 5 of them?

    Going through this scenario, I am not sure it is even covered. Like, the win percentage against all common conference opponents (Arizona, Stanford, Colorado) in this scenario is 100% for everyone except UCLA. Does that eliminate UCLA or does it move on to the next tiebreaker because no team won at that step, and continue to include UCLA?

    If it does eliminate UCLA, think Oregon would "win" that iteration since they'd be 1-0 vs UCLA and the other 3 would be 0-1 (record against next highest placed conference opponent). Then to tiebreak for #2, does it start over or is it UW vs Utah vs USC? In which case Utah wins because we're eliminated due to losing to ASU, and then Utah beat USC.

    I don't fucking know.
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369
    Every team and fanbase that talks paths in November isn't talking paths post-December. Remember when Barry Switzer talked his Sooners for the 84 Natty? I do.

    I remember the voters would forgive the Dawgs 1990 road loss to Colorado, Then we? played the hapless Bruins at home. The first half talk was a strong second half, and the Dawgs would cover the spread. Then came the second-half that left fans talking, "if only...."

    Lambo was two plays away from two Rose Bowls. Two plays. @puppylove_sugarsteel