My point is that they operate as the program that can't. I think Washington could easily be a 12-2 program with Deboer, especially in a terrible Pac-12. Though I think letting Oregon and USC pull away so far from them in recruiting in recent seasons is going to make it a lot harder.
Beboer was a good hire to me, especially when you look at who Auburn, Florida, Florida State, Miami, Notre Dame, Texas and hell even Oklahoma have hired in recent years.
They needed to take the money they saved in hiring Deboer instead of Campbell supposedly and invest that in a real DC and position coaches. A real AD should say hell no, we're not bringing over the Fresno State D staff up here. Someone like Tim Derutyer should have been a floor. Should have also brought on a consultant for the offense who has been in the Pac-12 before as well. I'm fine with Grubb and Deboer but need someone who has been there before as well.
NIL and how to it could be better is a dead horse, but obviously that needs to happen too.
I know I've beat a dead horse on this topic, but is it wrong of me to not give a shit as to whether UW excels at NIL or not? I'm willing to accept the theoretical ceiling that this puts on the program.
Sure, but based on early returns, they're going to have a very hard time ever beating Oregon or USC if they don't excel at NIL. Whether they are in the Big 10 of the Pac-10. Most likely, what Utah is right now is the ceiling. Maybe a little higher because of market, maybe a little lower because of lack of commitment to win and academis standards.
It will be interesting to see if Oregon and USC can buy their way into the Natty Game.
Georgia and Tennessee aren't good or fair comparisons. They're programs that will spend a bunch on NIL and actually have big time college football players in their geography. UW won't spend money on NIL and the state and greater region is getting worse and worse at producing players that can play for Top 25 team and stars and the rare ones don't want to stick around.
The only way I could see UW having a Tennessee-level breakthrough is a coach that's an Urban/Chip/Harbaugh-level hire and I just have a hard time seeing that in Deboer so far.
The university of we can't
Jen loves these posts
Is it wrong to call it as it is?
Jen’s never going to sign off on doing what is necessary to win at elite levels in the NIL world … and Upper Campus has shown zero signs of being ok with it either.
My point is that they operate as the program that can't. I think Washington could easily be a 12-2 program with Deboer, especially in a terrible Pac-12. Though I think letting Oregon and USC pull away so far from them in recruiting in recent seasons is going to make it a lot harder.
Beboer was a good hire to me, especially when you look at who Auburn, Florida, Florida State, Miami, Notre Dame, Texas and hell even Oklahoma have hired in recent years.
They needed to take the money they saved in hiring Deboer instead of Campbell supposedly and invest that in a real DC and position coaches. A real AD should say hell no, we're not bringing over the Fresno State D staff up here. Someone like Tim Derutyer should have been a floor. Should have also brought on a consultant for the offense who has been in the Pac-12 before as well. I'm fine with Grubb and Deboer but need someone who has been there before as well.
NIL and how to it could be better is a dead horse, but obviously that needs to happen too.
Doesn’t matter who the coaches are if you can’t get the players
My point is that they operate as the program that can't. I think Washington could easily be a 12-2 program with Deboer, especially in a terrible Pac-12. Though I think letting Oregon and USC pull away so far from them in recruiting in recent seasons is going to make it a lot harder.
Beboer was a good hire to me, especially when you look at who Auburn, Florida, Florida State, Miami, Notre Dame, Texas and hell even Oklahoma have hired in recent years.
They needed to take the money they saved in hiring Deboer instead of Campbell supposedly and invest that in a real DC and position coaches. A real AD should say hell no, we're not bringing over the Fresno State D staff up here. Someone like Tim Derutyer should have been a floor. Should have also brought on a consultant for the offense who has been in the Pac-12 before as well. I'm fine with Grubb and Deboer but need someone who has been there before as well.
NIL and how to it could be better is a dead horse, but obviously that needs to happen too.
I know I've beat a dead horse on this topic, but is it wrong of me to not give a shit as to whether UW excels at NIL or not? I'm willing to accept the theoretical ceiling that this puts on the program.
If UW isn’t interested in playing the game by the current rules why should you care about what success looks like?
Georgia and Tennessee aren't good or fair comparisons. They're programs that will spend a bunch on NIL and actually have big time college football players in their geography. UW won't spend money on NIL and the state and greater region is getting worse and worse at producing players that can play for Top 25 team and stars and the rare ones don't want to stick around.
The only way I could see UW having a Tennessee-level breakthrough is a coach that's an Urban/Chip/Harbaugh-level hire and I just have a hard time seeing that in Deboer so far.
The university of we can't
Jen loves these posts
Is it wrong to call it as it is?
Jen’s never going to sign off on doing what is necessary to win at elite levels in the NIL world … and Upper Campus has shown zero signs of being ok with it either.
It's wrong to accept it and resign yourself to it
And to parrot the company line
That's what Jen wants. Shut up and pay and be happy with 8-4
We'd still be speaking English if we just accept things how they are
Georgia and Tennessee aren't good or fair comparisons. They're programs that will spend a bunch on NIL and actually have big time college football players in their geography. UW won't spend money on NIL and the state and greater region is getting worse and worse at producing players that can play for Top 25 team and stars and the rare ones don't want to stick around.
The only way I could see UW having a Tennessee-level breakthrough is a coach that's an Urban/Chip/Harbaugh-level hire and I just have a hard time seeing that in Deboer so far.
The university of we can't
Jen loves these posts
Is it wrong to call it as it is?
Jen’s never going to sign off on doing what is necessary to win at elite levels in the NIL world … and Upper Campus has shown zero signs of being ok with it either.
It's wrong to accept it and resign yourself to it
And to parrot the company line
That's what Jen wants. Shut up and pay and be happy with 8-4
We'd still be speaking English if we just accept things how they are
I’m with you on the accepting it part … gets me in a lot of trouble with those that accept it
Reality though is that until there is a change in leadership you’re going to get the results we are seeing
There’s a low percentage of people on Montlake that want to be accountable
My point is that they operate as the program that can't. I think Washington could easily be a 12-2 program with Deboer, especially in a terrible Pac-12. Though I think letting Oregon and USC pull away so far from them in recruiting in recent seasons is going to make it a lot harder.
Beboer was a good hire to me, especially when you look at who Auburn, Florida, Florida State, Miami, Notre Dame, Texas and hell even Oklahoma have hired in recent years.
They needed to take the money they saved in hiring Deboer instead of Campbell supposedly and invest that in a real DC and position coaches. A real AD should say hell no, we're not bringing over the Fresno State D staff up here. Someone like Tim Derutyer should have been a floor. Should have also brought on a consultant for the offense who has been in the Pac-12 before as well. I'm fine with Grubb and Deboer but need someone who has been there before as well.
NIL and how to it could be better is a dead horse, but obviously that needs to happen too.
I know I've beat a dead horse on this topic, but is it wrong of me to not give a shit as to whether UW excels at NIL or not? I'm willing to accept the theoretical ceiling that this puts on the program.
If UW isn’t interested in playing the game by the current rules why should you care about what success looks like?
That's the point. I don't care that much anymore, because of the current rules.
And frankly my dear @Tequilla , I don't give a damn that UW isn't that interested.
My point is that they operate as the program that can't. I think Washington could easily be a 12-2 program with Deboer, especially in a terrible Pac-12. Though I think letting Oregon and USC pull away so far from them in recruiting in recent seasons is going to make it a lot harder.
Beboer was a good hire to me, especially when you look at who Auburn, Florida, Florida State, Miami, Notre Dame, Texas and hell even Oklahoma have hired in recent years.
They needed to take the money they saved in hiring Deboer instead of Campbell supposedly and invest that in a real DC and position coaches. A real AD should say hell no, we're not bringing over the Fresno State D staff up here. Someone like Tim Derutyer should have been a floor. Should have also brought on a consultant for the offense who has been in the Pac-12 before as well. I'm fine with Grubb and Deboer but need someone who has been there before as well.
NIL and how to it could be better is a dead horse, but obviously that needs to happen too.
I know I've beat a dead horse on this topic, but is it wrong of me to not give a shit as to whether UW excels at NIL or not? I'm willing to accept the theoretical ceiling that this puts on the program.
If UW isn’t interested in playing the game by the current rules why should you care about what success looks like?
That's the point. I don't care that much anymore, because of the current rules.
And frankly my dear @Tequilla , I don't give a damn that UW isn't that interested.
I know where you stand … it’s unfortunate but understandable
There’s a very high probability I’m directionally heading in your direction as I won’t renew for next season
Sadly, I think the only way Cohen gets fired is if the second-tier sports start sucking and the stadium continues to empty. This is the bass-ackwards world we live in as UW football fans.
Sadly, I think the only way Cohen gets fired is if the second-tier sports start sucking and the stadium continues to empty. This is the bass-ackwards world we live in as UW football fans.
We? prefer the label "non revenue" or "Olympic" sports thank you for very much.
Sadly, I think the only way Cohen gets fired is if the second-tier sports start sucking and the stadium continues to empty. This is the bass-ackwards world we live in as UW football fans.
We? prefer the label "non revenue" or "Olympic" sports thank you for very much.
My point is that they operate as the program that can't. I think Washington could easily be a 12-2 program with Deboer, especially in a terrible Pac-12. Though I think letting Oregon and USC pull away so far from them in recruiting in recent seasons is going to make it a lot harder.
Beboer was a good hire to me, especially when you look at who Auburn, Florida, Florida State, Miami, Notre Dame, Texas and hell even Oklahoma have hired in recent years.
They needed to take the money they saved in hiring Deboer instead of Campbell supposedly and invest that in a real DC and position coaches. A real AD should say hell no, we're not bringing over the Fresno State D staff up here. Someone like Tim Derutyer should have been a floor. Should have also brought on a consultant for the offense who has been in the Pac-12 before as well. I'm fine with Grubb and Deboer but need someone who has been there before as well.
NIL and how to it could be better is a dead horse, but obviously that needs to happen too.
I know I've beat a dead horse on this topic, but is it wrong of me to not give a shit as to whether UW excels at NIL or not? I'm willing to accept the theoretical ceiling that this puts on the program.
If UW isn’t interested in playing the game by the current rules why should you care about what success looks like?
That's the point. I don't care that much anymore, because of the current rules.
And frankly my dear @Tequilla , I don't give a damn that UW isn't that interested.
I know where you stand … it’s unfortunate but understandable
There’s a very high probability I’m directionally heading in your direction as I won’t renew for next season
There’s a high degree of directional probability of directionally going in a certain direction as directed by the directional probability in this directional poast.
Sadly, I think the only way Cohen gets fired is if the second-tier sports start sucking and the stadium continues to empty. This is the bass-ackwards world we live in as UW football fans.
We? prefer the label "non revenue" or "Olympic" sports thank you for very much.
Keep rowing out of that category. Pretty sure those guys get decent donorship
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Jen’s never going to sign off on doing what is necessary to win at elite levels in the NIL world … and Upper Campus has shown zero signs of being ok with it either.
There’s minimal pressure on KDB if he addresses it …
But if he just runs it back with similar results …
And to parrot the company line
That's what Jen wants. Shut up and pay and be happy with 8-4
We'd still be speaking English if we just accept things how they are
Reality though is that until there is a change in leadership you’re going to get the results we are seeing
There’s a low percentage of people on Montlake that want to be accountable
And frankly my dear @Tequilla , I don't give a damn that UW isn't that interested.
There’s a very high probability I’m directionally heading in your direction as I won’t renew for next season
You’re 100% right DJ in that they want your money but just as importantly don’t want to be accountable for results