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Im just trying to figure out the logic here.TheHB said:
Ok doogPostGameOrangeSlices said:
zzzzzzTheHB said:
We’ve seen this movie before. Several times. The ending is always the same.PostGameOrangeSlices said:MikeDamone said:
He coached at a level slightly higher than high school. I’d have more confidence in a winning coach from the community colleges featured in Last Chance U.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Fair but he dominated coaches that had similar talent and budgetsMikeDamone said:
Or amassing that record in NAIA….PostGameOrangeSlices said:
You dont have a record at HC of 90-12 or whatever without making tough decisionsDawgDaze71 said:
Is there a history of him making tough decision?PostGameOrangeSlices said:DeBoer is going to clean house. The dude is too competitive
True but he knows how to get an offense into gear. The defense is a disaster and he needs blame for it.
This offseason will be telling
Were we supposed to win the conference in year 1?
The last two games have been a disaster, but I think most expected 8-4 or so which is definitely achievable -
The logic is that we’ve heard this all before. Just wait till he gets the right coaches, blah blah blah.
What makes you think he will hire better coaches based on who he’s already hired? Suddenly, he’s going to get smarter? -
Yeah, I'd like to think he sees what's going on and gets competent people in here after the season. With all the tens of thousands of doogs who think think we ought to be grateful for 4-2 who probably suck his dick, I won't hold my breath. I wish we had a real fanbase with expectations. "You would have taken 4-2 in August! You're not a REAL Dawg fan! I'm loyal" PutasTheHB said:
We’ve seen this movie before. Several times. The ending is always the same.PostGameOrangeSlices said:MikeDamone said:
He coached at a level slightly higher than high school. I’d have more confidence in a winning coach from the community colleges featured in Last Chance U.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Fair but he dominated coaches that had similar talent and budgetsMikeDamone said:
Or amassing that record in NAIA….PostGameOrangeSlices said:
You dont have a record at HC of 90-12 or whatever without making tough decisionsDawgDaze71 said:
Is there a history of him making tough decision?PostGameOrangeSlices said:DeBoer is going to clean house. The dude is too competitive
True but he knows how to get an offense into gear. The defense is a disaster and he needs blame for it.
This offseason will be telling -
I didnt know all head coaches were the same. Brilliant stuff!TheHB said:The logic is that we’ve heard this all before. Just wait till he gets the right coaches, blah blah blah.
What makes you think he will hire better coaches based on who he’s already hired? Suddenly, he’s going to get smarter? -
Sounds like an entitled fan trying to ruin the STUDENT athlete experience for the players. - Jen Cohen.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Yeah, I'd like to think he sees what's going on and gets competent people in here after the season. With all the tens of thousands of doogs who think think we ought to be grateful for 4-2 who probably suck his dick, I won't hold my breath. I wish we had a real fanbase with expectations. "You would have taken 4-2 in August! You're not a REAL Dawg fan! I'm loyal" PutasTheHB said:
We’ve seen this movie before. Several times. The ending is always the same.PostGameOrangeSlices said:MikeDamone said:
He coached at a level slightly higher than high school. I’d have more confidence in a winning coach from the community colleges featured in Last Chance U.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Fair but he dominated coaches that had similar talent and budgetsMikeDamone said:
Or amassing that record in NAIA….PostGameOrangeSlices said:
You dont have a record at HC of 90-12 or whatever without making tough decisionsDawgDaze71 said:
Is there a history of him making tough decision?PostGameOrangeSlices said:DeBoer is going to clean house. The dude is too competitive
True but he knows how to get an offense into gear. The defense is a disaster and he needs blame for it.
This offseason will be telling -
Seriously, what makes you think he will fire the guys he hired after one year and replace them with coaches who will do better?
Hope? -
He doesn't strike me as a guy who likes losing and I believe he will take steps to not loseTheHB said:Seriously, what makes you think he will fire the guys he hired after one year and replace them with coaches who will do better?
Hope?
Versus Sark, who spent 50% of his time chasing pussy
Right now the defense is a catastrophic liability with some of the worst safety play Ive ever seen
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So hope.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
He doesn't strike me as a guy who likes losing and I believe he will take steps to not loseTheHB said:Seriously, what makes you think he will fire the guys he hired after one year and replace them with coaches who will do better?
Hope?
Versus Sark, who spent 50% of his time chasing pussy
Right now the defense is a catastrophic liability with some of the worst safety play Ive ever seen
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No shit.TheHB said:
So hope.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
He doesn't strike me as a guy who likes losing and I believe he will take steps to not loseTheHB said:Seriously, what makes you think he will fire the guys he hired after one year and replace them with coaches who will do better?
Hope?
Versus Sark, who spent 50% of his time chasing pussy
Right now the defense is a catastrophic liability with some of the worst safety play Ive ever seen
He cant allow it
Uh Actually deboer is an in law and told me so himself
Fucktard -
I’m willing to give the defensive staff a mulligan. They have three, recruited scholarship LBs from the last staff on the roster and Hiemuli looks like a bust. How do you do that in D1 football? The whole defensive backfield is filled with the low hanging fruit that were Terrance and Willups third, fourth and fifth choices from their last few classes. Everyone here knew that after McDuffie and Gordon moved on that their recruits were either going to have to vastly outperform their tape or UW was in big trouble there. Cook sucks. Asa Turner is our best DB. Let that sink in. True freshman Green and Dunn have played real minutes in the backfield. The starting DBs to start the year were a converted WR, a Walk-on, a Big Sky player and Turner. The guys beat out by those four are now getting heavy usage. Milloes recruiting has proven to be poor. Tuli is pretty good, Tuitele is a decent depth guy, Peihopa is okay but always hurt and everyone else he recruited either stinks or is too small. I heard Parker’s name yesterday more than I’ve ever heard Bandes. This defensive roster is atrocious. The years of Gregory, Harris, Milloe and a checked out recruiter in Jimmy have cratered the talent pool. You get four or five starters hurt and and now you’re playing second and third stringers on a shitty roster. That’s a tough pill to swallow. Hit the portal hard. Ask some guys to LEAVE! Get better. All that said if this defense gives up over 28 next year I’m all out and a change will need to be made. I can’t wait forever.
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doogPostGameOrangeSlices said:
No shit.TheHB said:
So hope.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
He doesn't strike me as a guy who likes losing and I believe he will take steps to not loseTheHB said:Seriously, what makes you think he will fire the guys he hired after one year and replace them with coaches who will do better?
Hope?
Versus Sark, who spent 50% of his time chasing pussy
Right now the defense is a catastrophic liability with some of the worst safety play Ive ever seen
He cant allow it
Uh Actually deboer is an in law and told me so himself
Fucktard -
Wanna be damoneTheHB said:
doogPostGameOrangeSlices said:
No shit.TheHB said:
So hope.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
He doesn't strike me as a guy who likes losing and I believe he will take steps to not loseTheHB said:Seriously, what makes you think he will fire the guys he hired after one year and replace them with coaches who will do better?
Hope?
Versus Sark, who spent 50% of his time chasing pussy
Right now the defense is a catastrophic liability with some of the worst safety play Ive ever seen
He cant allow it
Uh Actually deboer is an in law and told me so himself
Fucktard -
Hope is not a strategy.
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It's a message board, we don't have strategiesTheHB said:Hope is not a strategy.
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I thought/hoped the defense would get incrementally better as the season progressed. Instead it has been an implosion.theknowledge said:I’m willing to give the defensive staff a mulligan. They have three, recruited scholarship LBs from the last staff on the roster and Hiemuli looks like a bust. How do you do that in D1 football? The whole defensive backfield is filled with the low hanging fruit that were Terrance and Willups third, fourth and fifth choices from their last few classes. Everyone here knew that after McDuffie and Gordon moved on that their recruits were either going to have to vastly outperform their tape or UW was in big trouble there. Cook sucks. Asa Turner is our best DB. Let that sink in. True freshman Green and Dunn have played real minutes in the backfield. The starting DBs to start the year were a converted WR, a Walk-on, a Big Sky player and Turner. The guys beat out by those four are now getting heavy usage. Milloes recruiting has proven to be poor. Tuli is pretty good, Tuitele is a decent depth guy, Peihopa is okay but always hurt and everyone else he recruited either stinks or is too small. I heard Parker’s name yesterday more than I’ve ever heard Bandes. This defensive roster is atrocious. The years of Gregory, Harris, Milloe and a checked out recruiter in Jimmy have cratered the talent pool. You get four or five starters hurt and and now you’re playing second and third stringers on a shitty roster. That’s a tough pill to swallow. Hit the portal hard. Ask some guys to LEAVE! Get better. All that said if this defense gives up over 28 next year I’m all out and a change will need to be made. I can’t wait forever.
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Great. We get an in-law when what we need is an outlaw. Makes sense. Dwag sense.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
No shit.TheHB said:
So hope.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
He doesn't strike me as a guy who likes losing and I believe he will take steps to not loseTheHB said:Seriously, what makes you think he will fire the guys he hired after one year and replace them with coaches who will do better?
Hope?
Versus Sark, who spent 50% of his time chasing pussy
Right now the defense is a catastrophic liability with some of the worst safety play Ive ever seen
He cant allow it
Uh Actually deboer is an in law and told me so himself
Fucktard -
They have three, recruited scholarship LBs from the last staff on the roster and Hiemuli looks like a bust. How do you do that in D1 football? The whole defensive backfield is filled with the low hanging fruit that were Terrance and Willups third, fourth and fifth choices from their last few classes. Everyone here knew that after McDuffie and Gordon moved on that their recruits were either going to have to vastly outperform their tape or UW was in big trouble there. Cook sucks. Asa Turner is our best DB. Let that sink in. True freshman Green and Dunn have played real minutes in the backfield. The starting DBs to start the year were a converted WR, a Walk-on, a Big Sky player and Turner. The guys beat out by those four are now getting heavy usage. Milloes recruiting has proven to be poor. Tuli is pretty good, Tuitele is a decent depth guy, Peihopa is okay but always hurt and everyone else he recruited either stinks or is too small. I heard Parker’s name yesterday more than I’ve ever heard Bandes. This defensive roster is atrocious. The years of Gregory, Harris, Milloe and a checked out recruiter in Jimmy have cratered the talent pool. You get four or five starters hurt and and now you’re playing second and third stringers on a shitty roster.
Post of year. Should be required reading b4 you get to type anything.
Love the line Asa is our best DB let that sink in.
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It's more than talent. I have dropped way off in terms of following second stringers, recruiting, depth etc. since the plandemic, but some of it is coaching. There's too much confusion.
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Maybe our DBs only understand how to defend the pass when they play off the line of scrimmage by 20 yards and there’s 8 of them.
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If you’ve got an underwhelming defensive roster and you’re playing the second, third and fourth stringers on that underwhelming defense the numbers should improve? Some here talk about DeBoer winning big at his NAIA small college level. Winning at an epic clip against teams of a like stature. Very true and very impressive. Well, before this defensive staff got to Fresno the Bulldogs had a scoring and YPG defense in the high 80’s nationally. By their second year running the defense these coaches shored up that defense to 20th in scoring and 31st in YPG nationally. Yes, it’s the MWC, but they were competing with a MWC roster. So the results are apples to apples. The DL was down Tuli, Ale and I think Peihopa. It’s a wonder ASU didn’t run for 300 yards. They would have on last years defense. Green, the kid who had to tweet to us he was actually on scholarship, is currently the biggest CB on the roster. He’s 18 and just got here. The last staff did an undeniably poor job of defensive roster management and scouting. I’m giving the defensive staff this year. Next year needs to be better. No doubt. I can’t quit this DeBoner. Not yet.DerekJohnson said:
I thought/hoped the defense would get incrementally better as the season progressed. Instead it has been an implosion.theknowledge said:I’m willing to give the defensive staff a mulligan. They have three, recruited scholarship LBs from the last staff on the roster and Hiemuli looks like a bust. How do you do that in D1 football? The whole defensive backfield is filled with the low hanging fruit that were Terrance and Willups third, fourth and fifth choices from their last few classes. Everyone here knew that after McDuffie and Gordon moved on that their recruits were either going to have to vastly outperform their tape or UW was in big trouble there. Cook sucks. Asa Turner is our best DB. Let that sink in. True freshman Green and Dunn have played real minutes in the backfield. The starting DBs to start the year were a converted WR, a Walk-on, a Big Sky player and Turner. The guys beat out by those four are now getting heavy usage. Milloes recruiting has proven to be poor. Tuli is pretty good, Tuitele is a decent depth guy, Peihopa is okay but always hurt and everyone else he recruited either stinks or is too small. I heard Parker’s name yesterday more than I’ve ever heard Bandes. This defensive roster is atrocious. The years of Gregory, Harris, Milloe and a checked out recruiter in Jimmy have cratered the talent pool. You get four or five starters hurt and and now you’re playing second and third stringers on a shitty roster. That’s a tough pill to swallow. Hit the portal hard. Ask some guys to LEAVE! Get better. All that said if this defense gives up over 28 next year I’m all out and a change will need to be made. I can’t wait forever.
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The offense sucked last year and is more than serviceable this year. The defense was more than serviceable last year and sucks this year.godawgst said:They have three, recruited scholarship LBs from the last staff on the roster and Hiemuli looks like a bust. How do you do that in D1 football? The whole defensive backfield is filled with the low hanging fruit that were Terrance and Willups third, fourth and fifth choices from their last few classes. Everyone here knew that after McDuffie and Gordon moved on that their recruits were either going to have to vastly outperform their tape or UW was in big trouble there. Cook sucks. Asa Turner is our best DB. Let that sink in. True freshman Green and Dunn have played real minutes in the backfield. The starting DBs to start the year were a converted WR, a Walk-on, a Big Sky player and Turner. The guys beat out by those four are now getting heavy usage. Milloes recruiting has proven to be poor. Tuli is pretty good, Tuitele is a decent depth guy, Peihopa is okay but always hurt and everyone else he recruited either stinks or is too small. I heard Parker’s name yesterday more than I’ve ever heard Bandes. This defensive roster is atrocious. The years of Gregory, Harris, Milloe and a checked out recruiter in Jimmy have cratered the talent pool. You get four or five starters hurt and and now you’re playing second and third stringers on a shitty roster.
Post of year. Should be required reading b4 you get to type anything.
Love the line Asa is our best DB let that sink in.
If you can turn around the offense in one year, you should be able to keep the defense from lighting itself on fire with more flammable combustibles each week. Improvement over the course of the year is an expectation no matter what the roster looks like. -
The defense was ass last year. They lost games where other teams didn’t throw the ball. They could not stop the run. At all. This staff took that roster minus two NFL CB’s and are attempting to stop the run, which is better than last year, but the lack of talent and depth on the back end is dooming everything they try. Don’t say the defense was more than serviceable last year, we all know that’s not true. The UW’s slow, archaic offense and their opponents running for 6ypc shortened the games and made the scoring stats look better. Teams would go into their fourth quarter offense last year of running every down. This defense couldn’t stop it. It was painful to watch.TheHB said:
The offense sucked last year and is more than serviceable this year. The defense was more than serviceable last year and sucks this year.godawgst said:They have three, recruited scholarship LBs from the last staff on the roster and Hiemuli looks like a bust. How do you do that in D1 football? The whole defensive backfield is filled with the low hanging fruit that were Terrance and Willups third, fourth and fifth choices from their last few classes. Everyone here knew that after McDuffie and Gordon moved on that their recruits were either going to have to vastly outperform their tape or UW was in big trouble there. Cook sucks. Asa Turner is our best DB. Let that sink in. True freshman Green and Dunn have played real minutes in the backfield. The starting DBs to start the year were a converted WR, a Walk-on, a Big Sky player and Turner. The guys beat out by those four are now getting heavy usage. Milloes recruiting has proven to be poor. Tuli is pretty good, Tuitele is a decent depth guy, Peihopa is okay but always hurt and everyone else he recruited either stinks or is too small. I heard Parker’s name yesterday more than I’ve ever heard Bandes. This defensive roster is atrocious. The years of Gregory, Harris, Milloe and a checked out recruiter in Jimmy have cratered the talent pool. You get four or five starters hurt and and now you’re playing second and third stringers on a shitty roster.
Post of year. Should be required reading b4 you get to type anything.
Love the line Asa is our best DB let that sink in.
If you can turn around the offense in one year, you should be able to keep the defense from lighting itself on fire with more flammable combustibles each week. Improvement over the course of the year is an expectation no matter what the roster looks like. -
22.7 ppg is the definition of “more than serviceable” if you have an ounce of competency on offense.theknowledge said:
The defense was ass last year. They lost games where other teams didn’t throw the ball. They could not stop the run. At all. This staff took that roster minus two NFL CB’s and are attempting to stop the run, which is better than last year, but the lack of talent and depth on the back end is dooming everything they try. Don’t say the defense was more than serviceable last year, we all know that’s not true. The UW’s slow, archaic offense and their opponents running for 6ypc shortened the games and made the scoring stats look better. Teams would go into their fourth quarter offense last year of running every down. This defense couldn’t stop it. It was painful to watch.TheHB said:
The offense sucked last year and is more than serviceable this year. The defense was more than serviceable last year and sucks this year.godawgst said:They have three, recruited scholarship LBs from the last staff on the roster and Hiemuli looks like a bust. How do you do that in D1 football? The whole defensive backfield is filled with the low hanging fruit that were Terrance and Willups third, fourth and fifth choices from their last few classes. Everyone here knew that after McDuffie and Gordon moved on that their recruits were either going to have to vastly outperform their tape or UW was in big trouble there. Cook sucks. Asa Turner is our best DB. Let that sink in. True freshman Green and Dunn have played real minutes in the backfield. The starting DBs to start the year were a converted WR, a Walk-on, a Big Sky player and Turner. The guys beat out by those four are now getting heavy usage. Milloes recruiting has proven to be poor. Tuli is pretty good, Tuitele is a decent depth guy, Peihopa is okay but always hurt and everyone else he recruited either stinks or is too small. I heard Parker’s name yesterday more than I’ve ever heard Bandes. This defensive roster is atrocious. The years of Gregory, Harris, Milloe and a checked out recruiter in Jimmy have cratered the talent pool. You get four or five starters hurt and and now you’re playing second and third stringers on a shitty roster.
Post of year. Should be required reading b4 you get to type anything.
Love the line Asa is our best DB let that sink in.
If you can turn around the offense in one year, you should be able to keep the defense from lighting itself on fire with more flammable combustibles each week. Improvement over the course of the year is an expectation no matter what the roster looks like. -
It’s almost like you didn’t comprehend what I wrote. I know TLDRTheHB said:
22.7 ppg is the definition of “more than serviceable” if you have an ounce of competency on offense.theknowledge said:
The defense was ass last year. They lost games where other teams didn’t throw the ball. They could not stop the run. At all. This staff took that roster minus two NFL CB’s and are attempting to stop the run, which is better than last year, but the lack of talent and depth on the back end is dooming everything they try. Don’t say the defense was more than serviceable last year, we all know that’s not true. The UW’s slow, archaic offense and their opponents running for 6ypc shortened the games and made the scoring stats look better. Teams would go into their fourth quarter offense last year of running every down. This defense couldn’t stop it. It was painful to watch.TheHB said:
The offense sucked last year and is more than serviceable this year. The defense was more than serviceable last year and sucks this year.godawgst said:They have three, recruited scholarship LBs from the last staff on the roster and Hiemuli looks like a bust. How do you do that in D1 football? The whole defensive backfield is filled with the low hanging fruit that were Terrance and Willups third, fourth and fifth choices from their last few classes. Everyone here knew that after McDuffie and Gordon moved on that their recruits were either going to have to vastly outperform their tape or UW was in big trouble there. Cook sucks. Asa Turner is our best DB. Let that sink in. True freshman Green and Dunn have played real minutes in the backfield. The starting DBs to start the year were a converted WR, a Walk-on, a Big Sky player and Turner. The guys beat out by those four are now getting heavy usage. Milloes recruiting has proven to be poor. Tuli is pretty good, Tuitele is a decent depth guy, Peihopa is okay but always hurt and everyone else he recruited either stinks or is too small. I heard Parker’s name yesterday more than I’ve ever heard Bandes. This defensive roster is atrocious. The years of Gregory, Harris, Milloe and a checked out recruiter in Jimmy have cratered the talent pool. You get four or five starters hurt and and now you’re playing second and third stringers on a shitty roster.
Post of year. Should be required reading b4 you get to type anything.
Love the line Asa is our best DB let that sink in.
If you can turn around the offense in one year, you should be able to keep the defense from lighting itself on fire with more flammable combustibles each week. Improvement over the course of the year is an expectation no matter what the roster looks like.
337ypg last year. 193.7 rush 143.3 pass
351ypg this year. 116 rush 234.7 pass
Can’t stop the pass this year, couldn’t stop the run last year. UWs slow, shitty offense plus the inability to stop the run shortened games and lowered scores. Quit being contrary and admit both defenses suck. If UW was playing last years defense then this offense would get four or five possessions a game. Maybe less.
Me: All the planets in our solar system revolve around our sun.
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@theknowledge Lookit. If you’re gonna insult me, at least get it right. It’s my moms’ renovated farmhouse loft.
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^ try hard, wannabe half brain.
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dooghaie said:^ try hard, wannabe half brain.
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It's not microwave popcorn?
