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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    dnc said:

    haie said:

    What I take from all of this is that if you take the outlier teams from HNMT's list including Boston and compare them to Indiana it is still night and fucking day because all those teams had so much veteran leadership. I can't imagine even Sheed saying something as fucking stupid as he's in Shaq's head...

    +1. Stevenson is a fucking dumbass.
    Stevenson you expect that from. I tweeted during game two that he's Ron Artest without the charging into the stands.

    A little disappointed in Paul George's statement after this game.

    For what it is worth basketball reference breaks down what position you play.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html

    Now for Duncan they have him at 100% center which obviously isn't true but I imagine that the Spurs do go small quite a bit so he could qualify as a center. Much like Lebron at this point I consider him to be a power forward.
    That's a really interesting positional breakdown.

    It definitely doesn't look like the All NBA selections use the same data BR is using. BR had him at 71% C in 07 when he was a first team forward, 94% C in 08 when he was a second team forward, 100% C in 09 when he was a second team forward and 100% in 10 when he was a third team forward.

    But, given how they recognized him as a C last year I'd imagine they will this year again, and I agree that if they see him as a C he's probably the best one out there. Which is amazing since this was the lowest PER season of Duncan's career.
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  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    Christ... I tried telling you all this after game 1. It's all in the script. Pacers will win game 5 at home and then the Heat will coast to an easy victory game 6.

    Never go against the script.
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  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    In regards to Paul George. He has the talent to become an elite NBA player but mentally he isn't there yet. Very Lebron like when he was younger and blaming refs and other retarded shit on losses.

    I thought the Pacers had a legit shot at the title this year when the cylinders were clicking and they were playing outstanding defense and great team basketball all around. What we have learned in the playoffs is that mentally they think they are better than they are and a bunch of pussies aside maybe West. Resorting to pre-game trash talk (which Lance Stephenson sucks at) and then always having some FS excuse after they get plungered.

    PS: I never said Paul George will become the next Lebron so don't go twisting my words.
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  • [Deleted User]
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    CuntWaffle said:

    Christ... I tried telling you all this after game 1. It's all in the script. Pacers will win game 5 at home and then the Heat will coast to an easy victory game 6.

    Never go against the script.

    You'll know if Miami wins game 5 early on based on their defensive intensity.

    I think Pacers are a mess and expect Miami to clinch on their home court.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    The Pacers were never any good. LeBron's Cavs always won 60+, but had no chance at a title. The Pacers are the same way.
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  • [Deleted User]
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    RoadDawg55 said:

    The Pacers were never any good. LeBron's Cavs always won 60+, but had no chance at a title. The Pacers are the same way.

    Lebron's Cavs were more like OKC with Durant IMO. I get where you are going. I never felt like Lebron was the clear cut favorite to win the title until he went to Miami.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    The Pacers were never any good. LeBron's Cavs always won 60+, but had no chance at a title. The Pacers are the same way.

    Lebron's Cavs were more like OKC with Durant IMO. I get where you are going. I never felt like Lebron was the clear cut favorite to win the title until he went to Miami.
    You're pressing a little with your Thunder hate. LeBron never had a Westbrook. LeBron never even had an Ibaka. The Thunder are a young team with the youngest nucleus of all the contenders. Durant's Thunder are a way more legitimate contender than the Cavs with LeBron. The Cavs were acquiring Wally Szerbiak and Delonte West and playin them 40 minutes in the playoffs.
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  • [Deleted User]
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    RoadDawg55 said:

    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    The Pacers were never any good. LeBron's Cavs always won 60+, but had no chance at a title. The Pacers are the same way.

    Lebron's Cavs were more like OKC with Durant IMO. I get where you are going. I never felt like Lebron was the clear cut favorite to win the title until he went to Miami.
    You're pressing a little with your Thunder hate. LeBron never had a Westbrook. LeBron never even had an Ibaka. The Thunder are a young team with the youngest nucleus of all the contenders.
    Durant's Thunder are a way more legitimate contender than the Cavs with LeBron. The Cavs were acquiring Wally Szerbiak and Delonte West and playin them 40 minutes in the playoffs.
    So you are admitting Durant has more surrounding talent than Lebron did?

    Perhaps if he doesn't win a title maybe some will finally get on him like they did Lebron.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    The Pacers were never any good. LeBron's Cavs always won 60+, but had no chance at a title. The Pacers are the same way.

    Lebron's Cavs were more like OKC with Durant IMO. I get where you are going. I never felt like Lebron was the clear cut favorite to win the title until he went to Miami.
    You're pressing a little with your Thunder hate. LeBron never had a Westbrook. LeBron never even had an Ibaka. The Thunder are a young team with the youngest nucleus of all the contenders.
    Durant's Thunder are a way more legitimate contender than the Cavs with LeBron. The Cavs were acquiring Wally Szerbiak and Delonte West and playin them 40 minutes in the playoffs.
    So you are admitting Durant has more surrounding talent than Lebron did?

    Perhaps if he doesn't win a title maybe some will finally get on him like they did Lebron.
    When did I or anyone ever say Dursnt had less talent than LeBron's Cavs? Durant is 25 or 26. He's got time to win a championship. Jordan, Pippen, and Grant took awhile to win one too. I could see criticizing him for the Memphis series, and he stupidly was ( Mr. Unreliable). I don't know what else there is to criticize.

    LeBron took heat for the way he left and for folding against the Celtics before "The decision." I don't remember him getting that much criticism for not taking the Cavs to a championship. They wouldn't have even been the favorite if they got there.
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