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  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,379
    edited September 2022
    Kingdome_Urinals said:

    I think Campbell is kind of an over emotional guy with not quite a killer track record.

    But I would have dooged for him coming at the end of the jimmy era.

    As would have everyone here.

    Don’t get it twisted, I was an early deboer guy. But Campbell would have been a prestige hire.

    DerekJohnson said:

    whlinder said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    whlinder said:

    Jen got blindsided that USC and UCLA went to the B1G.

    That alone is a fireable offense.

    I'm no fan of Jen Cohen, but how is that specifically her fault and a fireable offense?
    Her responsibility is to anticipate the shifting of the tectonic plates of college football and position UW accordingly. She has to know the value of each school to the conference and ensure the ones which matter are taken care of, OR make sure UW is the first one off the HMS PAC 12 Titanic into the life raft of the B1G with USC.
    that's an interesting thought. Mike Lude would have been tipped off ahead of time for sure. Jen doesn't have those kinds of connections.
    Lude hired James and left him mostly alone, except for acting as a buffer to Gerbs (FTG)

    My best memories of Lude were allowing Bill Bissell to do Bill Bissell things and the fans were happy.
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  • Kingdome_Urinals
    Kingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,896
    Most ADs lack connections or the ability to deal with big time coaches and money.

    All that stuff is handled in a shadow world of boosters and agents.

    In Jens case, she’s just further behind and less talented than most.

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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 69,733 Founders Club
    Baseman said:

    Kingdome_Urinals said:

    I think Campbell is kind of an over emotional guy with not quite a killer track record.

    But I would have dooged for him coming at the end of the jimmy era.

    As would have everyone here.

    Don’t get it twisted, I was an early deboer guy. But Campbell would have been a prestige hire.

    DerekJohnson said:

    whlinder said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    whlinder said:

    Jen got blindsided that USC and UCLA went to the B1G.

    That alone is a fireable offense.

    I'm no fan of Jen Cohen, but how is that specifically her fault and a fireable offense?
    Her responsibility is to anticipate the shifting of the tectonic plates of college football and position UW accordingly. She has to know the value of each school to the conference and ensure the ones which matter are taken care of, OR make sure UW is the first one off the HMS PAC 12 Titanic into the life raft of the B1G with USC.
    that's an interesting thought. Mike Lude would have been tipped off ahead of time for sure. Jen doesn't have those kinds of connections.
    Lude hired James and left him mostly alone, except for acting as a buffer to Gerbs (FTG)

    My best memories of Lude were allowing Bill Bissell to do Bill Bissell things and the fans were happy.
    Actually James was hired by Joe Kearney, and a year later James lobbied for Lude to come to UW from Kent State when Kearney stepped down. But your overall point is taken.
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  • dtd
    dtd Member Posts: 5,575 Standard Supporter
    Kent State > Oregon.
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  • dtd
    dtd Member Posts: 5,575 Standard Supporter
    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    dtd said:

    1to392831weretaken said:

    Baseman said:

    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    Baseman said:

    The hope list, and first calls went to:

    Fickell and Aranda. A Big-10 assistant sent me a text that UW offered Fickell $7M for 7. Clearly his source was Fickell's agent whose agency also rep's said assistant. When word leaks that early, the agent has floated the offer, making a market for his guy. When this happens, Next. No harm no foul. Aranda was also contacted and immediately shut them down.

    Jen's first choice was Clawson. She saw him as the CFB Billy Beane, a coach who could build a program without NIL and win by out scheming opponents, Pete?. Moneyball was a cute story but last I checked the A's can't win the big one. Moreover, they're a shit home draw. Right there, that tells you the mindset. "More" with less. Overachieve and overcharge at the gate, draw em in with fancy light shows, purple smoke and a game-break playlist that screams a Nickelback track lurks somewhere in the shuffle.

    Jen thought Clawson was in only to learn his wife tubed the deal. Anyone who ever sold for a living understands when the prospect says they have to check with the wife, the deal is dead.

    Next, Campbell. He beat Oregon! Less is more. Feel good guy. And so on so forth. Yes, again Jen thought Campbell was in. The courtship drug on and Jen was clearly played. Cucked, more like it.

    Meanwhile DeBoner, with the most promising pedigree of the above, IMO, lingered and we got a coach.


    This isn't that bad of a coaching search for the AD to have ran. All names would have been good to great except for Campbell, IMO
    No problem reaching out to Fickell and Aranada. Why not Lincoln Riley? Take his tempature. Didn't happen. Find the infatuation with Clawson and Campbell disturbing. Both perceived as doing less with more. Jen gets lost in the weeds with gimmicks rather than basics.

    @DerekJohnson knows deets
    Would you actually want Lincoln Riley here? My hope is that they didn't call him because they didn't want to give $100 million to a guy who's never coached a competent defense in his life.

    Maybe it happened by accident and only because she failed with her first choices, but isn't what happened pretty much ideal? Making a coach actually earn it on the field before mortgaging the AD to pay him?
    We've gone from we? didn't want Matt Campbell to we didn't want Lincoln Riley? It's a bit much.

    I've always been team *we? didn't get Bob Stoops

    his wife likes the San Juan's for fucks sake
    I love Mexico.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,460 Founders Club
    I wish the Husky football team was as lucky as this bored is
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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,500 Standard Supporter
    edited October 2022
    LawDawg1 said:

    dnc said:

    TheHB said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    whlinder said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    whlinder said:

    Jen got blindsided that USC and UCLA went to the B1G.

    That alone is a fireable offense.

    I'm no fan of Jen Cohen, but how is that specifically her fault and a fireable offense?
    Her responsibility is to anticipate the shifting of the tectonic plates of college football and position UW accordingly. She has to know the value of each school to the conference and ensure the ones which matter are taken care of, OR make sure UW is the first one off the HMS PAC 12 Titanic into the life raft of the B1G with USC.
    that's an interesting thought. Mike Lude would have been tipped off ahead of time for sure. Jen doesn't have those kinds of connections.
    That is her fault. If there is one thing a capable AD needs to have, it’s connections.
    It's not necessarily her fault. It's the fault of UW's "Hire the best available person already on payroll" mentality. Of course she has no connections. She should have never had the gig in the first place.

    FYFMFE
    Fuck off! Jen Cohen had THE BEST connections!!!


    Who is the chunky little boy?

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