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What ARE the unfair trade practices Trump is bitching about endlessly?

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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,745
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    Canada levies a tariff of 270 percent on milk, 245 percent on cheese and 298 percent on butter in an effort to keep U.S. and other foreign dairy imports out. And people get upset about the US wanting to put a tariff out there to get the attention of the real offenders of unfair trade
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,745
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    topdawgnc said:

    The one area where I disagree with Trump.

    He still believes that cars, manufacturing and other labor intensive jobs can make a come back in America.

    if you look at the world through his lens, America was great when we built shit.

    He's not eh o my one who thinks that.

    Amdn not sure he is entirely wrong about it.

    The fact is, there are, and for the foreseeable future, will be, WAY more people who have no role in an Tech/services economy than those who do.

    And our economic relations with china go well beyond IP theft.

    Our exports go through vetting and more economically inefficient bullshit than you can shake a stick at.
    Fuck this damn phone!^
    Engrish matters!

    Oh and phones are EVIL incarnate!
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    ApostleofGriefApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
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    edited June 2018
    Sledog said:

    Canada levies a tariff of 270 percent on milk, 245 percent on cheese and 298 percent on butter in an effort to keep U.S. and other foreign dairy imports out. And people get upset about the US wanting to put a tariff out there to get the attention of the real offenders of unfair trade

    Well, OK, but how tangible is this? We have our own exclusive rules too, you know. I believe an example is the "buy USA" law which makes it illegal to buy foreign crap like cars for government. My information obtained by the NY Times is that far from running a deficit, we in fact running a trade surplus. The dumbfuck known as our president, by the way, omits services in his distortions of reality.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Sledog said:

    Canada levies a tariff of 270 percent on milk, 245 percent on cheese and 298 percent on butter in an effort to keep U.S. and other foreign dairy imports out. And people get upset about the US wanting to put a tariff out there to get the attention of the real offenders of unfair trade

    Please to be explaining how that is unfair? It's their country. Just one it's our country. Abs we have a leader, your hero, making trade wars out of nothing for no reason other than to flex his muscle. And idiots like you stroke off to it.
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    RedRocketRedRocket Member Posts: 1,526
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    Sledog said:

    Canada levies a tariff of 270 percent on milk, 245 percent on cheese and 298 percent on butter in an effort to keep U.S. and other foreign dairy imports out. And people get upset about the US wanting to put a tariff out there to get the attention of the real offenders of unfair trade

    Well, OK, but how tangible is this? We have our own exclusive rules too, you know. I believe an example is the "buy USA" law which makes it illegal to buy foreign crap like cars for government. My information obtained by the NY Times is that far from running a deficit, we in fact running a trade surplus. The dumbfuck known as our president, by the way, omits services in his distortions of reality.
    The Canadian and US dairy markets are both propped up by their respective governments. One through tariffs and quotas the other from targeted subsidies. Pick your poison.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,745
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    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Canada levies a tariff of 270 percent on milk, 245 percent on cheese and 298 percent on butter in an effort to keep U.S. and other foreign dairy imports out. And people get upset about the US wanting to put a tariff out there to get the attention of the real offenders of unfair trade

    Please to be explaining how that is unfair? It's their country. Just one it's our country. Abs we have a leader, your hero, making trade wars out of nothing for no reason other than to flex his muscle. And idiots like you stroke off to it.
    If the others tax our exports to them at high rates why shouldn't we be making some money off of them as well?

    HTH
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Canada levies a tariff of 270 percent on milk, 245 percent on cheese and 298 percent on butter in an effort to keep U.S. and other foreign dairy imports out. And people get upset about the US wanting to put a tariff out there to get the attention of the real offenders of unfair trade

    Please to be explaining how that is unfair? It's their country. Just one it's our country. Abs we have a leader, your hero, making trade wars out of nothing for no reason other than to flex his muscle. And idiots like you stroke off to it.
    If the others tax our exports to them at high rates why shouldn't we be making some money off of them as well?

    HTH
    From the dude who said we need to lower corporate income taxes to reduce costs to the consumer.

    Dumbfuck.
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    SarkFanSixtyNineSarkFanSixtyNine Member Posts: 362
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    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Canada levies a tariff of 270 percent on milk, 245 percent on cheese and 298 percent on butter in an effort to keep U.S. and other foreign dairy imports out. And people get upset about the US wanting to put a tariff out there to get the attention of the real offenders of unfair trade

    Please to be explaining how that is unfair? It's their country. Just one it's our country. Abs we have a leader, your hero, making trade wars out of nothing for no reason other than to flex his muscle. And idiots like you stroke off to it.
    If the others tax our exports to them at high rates why shouldn't we be making some money off of them as well?

    HTH
    From the dude who said we need to lower corporate income taxes to reduce costs to the consumer.

    Dumbfuck.
    yes the idea is doing a number of things to incentivize industry within this country its pretty simple

    china enslaves their people and destroys the planet so that americans can acquire slightly cheaper consumer garbage in exchange for dollars which they use strategically to improve their military, increase their manufacturing base, buy up crucial strategic long-term assets across the globe such as raw material sources
    how is this setup good for anyone?
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,745
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    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Canada levies a tariff of 270 percent on milk, 245 percent on cheese and 298 percent on butter in an effort to keep U.S. and other foreign dairy imports out. And people get upset about the US wanting to put a tariff out there to get the attention of the real offenders of unfair trade

    Please to be explaining how that is unfair? It's their country. Just one it's our country. Abs we have a leader, your hero, making trade wars out of nothing for no reason other than to flex his muscle. And idiots like you stroke off to it.
    If the others tax our exports to them at high rates why shouldn't we be making some money off of them as well?

    HTH
    From the dude who said we need to lower corporate income taxes to reduce costs to the consumer.

    Dumbfuck.
    From the guy wanting communism?

    Check yourself into the gulag.
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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,750
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    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Canada levies a tariff of 270 percent on milk, 245 percent on cheese and 298 percent on butter in an effort to keep U.S. and other foreign dairy imports out. And people get upset about the US wanting to put a tariff out there to get the attention of the real offenders of unfair trade

    Please to be explaining how that is unfair? It's their country. Just one it's our country. Abs we have a leader, your hero, making trade wars out of nothing for no reason other than to flex his muscle. And idiots like you stroke off to it.
    If the others tax our exports to them at high rates why shouldn't we be making some money off of them as well?

    HTH
    From the dude who said we need to lower corporate income taxes to reduce costs to the consumer.

    Dumbfuck.
    yes the idea is doing a number of things to incentivize industry within this country its pretty simple

    china enslaves their people and destroys the planet so that americans can acquire slightly cheaper consumer garbage in exchange for dollars which they use strategically to improve their military, increase their manufacturing base, buy up crucial strategic long-term assets across the globe such as raw material sources
    how is this setup good for anyone?
    Not to mention the cherry on the top.

    Currency manipulation.
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    CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
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    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Canada levies a tariff of 270 percent on milk, 245 percent on cheese and 298 percent on butter in an effort to keep U.S. and other foreign dairy imports out. And people get upset about the US wanting to put a tariff out there to get the attention of the real offenders of unfair trade

    Please to be explaining how that is unfair? It's their country. Just one it's our country. Abs we have a leader, your hero, making trade wars out of nothing for no reason other than to flex his muscle. And idiots like you stroke off to it.
    If the others tax our exports to them at high rates why shouldn't we be making some money off of them as well?

    HTH
    From the dude who said we need to lower corporate income taxes to reduce costs to the consumer.

    Dumbfuck.
    yes the idea is doing a number of things to incentivize industry within this country its pretty simple

    china enslaves their people and destroys the planet so that americans can acquire slightly cheaper consumer garbage in exchange for dollars which they use strategically to improve their military, increase their manufacturing base, buy up crucial strategic long-term assets across the globe such as raw material sources
    how is this setup good for anyone?
    Not to mention the cherry on the top.

    Currency manipulation.
    Maybe you can apply for Chinese yuan the next time you go on welfare.
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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,750
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    Sledog said:

    topdawgnc said:

    The one area where I disagree with Trump.

    He still believes that cars, manufacturing and other labor intensive jobs can make a come back in America.

    if you look at the world through his lens, America was great when we built shit.

    He's not eh o my one who thinks that.

    Amdn not sure he is entirely wrong about it.

    The fact is, there are, and for the foreseeable future, will be, WAY more people who have no role in an Tech/services economy than those who do.

    And our economic relations with china go well beyond IP theft.

    Our exports go through vetting and more economically inefficient bullshit than you can shake a stick at.
    Fuck this damn phone!^
    Engrish matters!

    Oh and phones are EVIL incarnate!
    Speaking Engrish isn’t a necessity where He lives, so I’ll cut him a break there.
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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,750
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    edited June 2018

    Sledog said:

    Canada levies a tariff of 270 percent on milk, 245 percent on cheese and 298 percent on butter in an effort to keep U.S. and other foreign dairy imports out. And people get upset about the US wanting to put a tariff out there to get the attention of the real offenders of unfair trade

    Well, OK, but how tangible is this? We have our own exclusive rules too, you know. I believe an example is the "buy USA" law which makes it illegal to buy foreign crap like cars for government. My information obtained by the NY Times is that far from running a deficit, we in fact running a trade surplus. The dumbfuck known as our president, by the way, omits services in his distortions of reality.
    The NY Times said that we had a 400 Billion trade deficit with China and Mexico alone in 2016. So....

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/06/09/upshot/what-is-the-trade-deficit.html
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    CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
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    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    topdawgnc said:

    The one area where I disagree with Trump.

    He still believes that cars, manufacturing and other labor intensive jobs can make a come back in America.

    if you look at the world through his lens, America was great when we built shit.

    He's not eh o my one who thinks that.

    Amdn not sure he is entirely wrong about it.

    The fact is, there are, and for the foreseeable future, will be, WAY more people who have no role in an Tech/services economy than those who do.

    And our economic relations with china go well beyond IP theft.

    Our exports go through vetting and more economically inefficient bullshit than you can shake a stick at.
    Fuck this damn phone!^
    Engrish matters!

    Oh and phones are EVIL incarnate!
    Speaking Engrish isn’t a necessity where He lives, so I’ll cut him a break there.
    What dialect of hillbilly do you speak?
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    CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
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    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    Canada levies a tariff of 270 percent on milk, 245 percent on cheese and 298 percent on butter in an effort to keep U.S. and other foreign dairy imports out. And people get upset about the US wanting to put a tariff out there to get the attention of the real offenders of unfair trade

    Well, OK, but how tangible is this? We have our own exclusive rules too, you know. I believe an example is the "buy USA" law which makes it illegal to buy foreign crap like cars for government. My information obtained by the NY Times is that far from running a deficit, we in fact running a trade surplus. The dumbfuck known as our president, by the way, omits services in his distortions of reality.
    The NY Times said that we had a 400 Billion trade deficit with China and Mexico alone in 2016. So....
    So what indeed. Did a Mexican steal your job?
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    topdawgnc said:

    The one area where I disagree with Trump.

    He still believes that cars, manufacturing and other labor intensive jobs can make a come back in America.

    if you look at the world through his lens, America was great when we built shit.

    He's not eh o my one who thinks that.

    Amdn not sure he is entirely wrong about it.

    The fact is, there are, and for the foreseeable future, will be, WAY more people who have no role in an Tech/services economy than those who do.

    And our economic relations with china go well beyond IP theft.

    Our exports go through vetting and more economically inefficient bullshit than you can shake a stick at.
    Fuck this damn phone!^
    Engrish matters!

    Oh and phones are EVIL incarnate!
    Speaking Engrish isn’t a necessity where He lives, so I’ll cut him a break there.
    What dialect of hillbilly do you speak?

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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,750
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    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    topdawgnc said:

    The one area where I disagree with Trump.

    He still believes that cars, manufacturing and other labor intensive jobs can make a come back in America.

    if you look at the world through his lens, America was great when we built shit.

    He's not eh o my one who thinks that.

    Amdn not sure he is entirely wrong about it.

    The fact is, there are, and for the foreseeable future, will be, WAY more people who have no role in an Tech/services economy than those who do.

    And our economic relations with china go well beyond IP theft.

    Our exports go through vetting and more economically inefficient bullshit than you can shake a stick at.
    Fuck this damn phone!^
    Engrish matters!

    Oh and phones are EVIL incarnate!
    Speaking Engrish isn’t a necessity where He lives, so I’ll cut him a break there.
    What dialect of hillbilly do you speak?
    The chinvite for a swim is still open. You’ll be able to hear first hand.
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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,750
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    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    Canada levies a tariff of 270 percent on milk, 245 percent on cheese and 298 percent on butter in an effort to keep U.S. and other foreign dairy imports out. And people get upset about the US wanting to put a tariff out there to get the attention of the real offenders of unfair trade

    Well, OK, but how tangible is this? We have our own exclusive rules too, you know. I believe an example is the "buy USA" law which makes it illegal to buy foreign crap like cars for government. My information obtained by the NY Times is that far from running a deficit, we in fact running a trade surplus. The dumbfuck known as our president, by the way, omits services in his distortions of reality.
    The NY Times said that we had a 400 Billion trade deficit with China and Mexico alone in 2016. So....
    So what indeed. Did a Mexican steal your job?
    If I only had a pesoyuan for everytime you poast the same tired shit, I’d go ahead and buy ya a plane ticket for that swim.

    You should prolly polish that last Busch lite and have the caregiver wheel you to your rack.
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    CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
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    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    Canada levies a tariff of 270 percent on milk, 245 percent on cheese and 298 percent on butter in an effort to keep U.S. and other foreign dairy imports out. And people get upset about the US wanting to put a tariff out there to get the attention of the real offenders of unfair trade

    Well, OK, but how tangible is this? We have our own exclusive rules too, you know. I believe an example is the "buy USA" law which makes it illegal to buy foreign crap like cars for government. My information obtained by the NY Times is that far from running a deficit, we in fact running a trade surplus. The dumbfuck known as our president, by the way, omits services in his distortions of reality.
    The NY Times said that we had a 400 Billion trade deficit with China and Mexico alone in 2016. So....
    So what indeed. Did a Mexican steal your job?
    If I only had a pesoyuan for everytime you poast the same tired shit, I’d go ahead and buy ya a plane ticket for that swim.

    You should prolly polish that last Busch lite and have the caregiver wheel you to your rack.
    Same tired shit? Thanks for caring.
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    ApostleofGriefApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
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    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    Canada levies a tariff of 270 percent on milk, 245 percent on cheese and 298 percent on butter in an effort to keep U.S. and other foreign dairy imports out. And people get upset about the US wanting to put a tariff out there to get the attention of the real offenders of unfair trade

    Well, OK, but how tangible is this? We have our own exclusive rules too, you know. I believe an example is the "buy USA" law which makes it illegal to buy foreign crap like cars for government. My information obtained by the NY Times is that far from running a deficit, we in fact running a trade surplus. The dumbfuck known as our president, by the way, omits services in his distortions of reality.
    The NY Times said that we had a 400 Billion trade deficit with China and Mexico alone in 2016. So....

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/06/09/upshot/what-is-the-trade-deficit.html
    Well if you read the article the thing most to take from it is that the view of our dumbfuck president is just a distortion of select issues and not the whole picture that he presents it as. The world of that dunbfuck is a falsification of reality designed to meet his ends. It is not realism.
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