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Another Jeff Tedford.
With Tedford, we averaged 48.3 ppg, had a 9-0 record, and Browning had 38 TDs to 3 INTs (without Tedford, Browning was 55 TDs to 21 INTs). The offense has never been the same since Tedford left. Petersen has said it's a priority this offseason, so why not hire another offensive consultant with OC experience who can do what needs to be done?
With Tedford, we averaged 48.3 ppg, had a 9-0 record, and Browning had 38 TDs to 3 INTs (without Tedford, Browning was 55 TDs to 21 INTs). The offense has never been the same since Tedford left. Petersen has said it's a priority this offseason, so why not hire another offensive consultant with OC experience who can do what needs to be done?
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Tedford was the Browning Whisperer
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Kwat HC
Lake DC
Tedford OC
better, worse, or same? -
Just make Saban say no
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I'm hearing this guy is available.
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He'd be a great pick2001400ex said:I'm hearing this guy is available.
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ISWYDTRaceBannon said:
He'd be a great pick2001400ex said:I'm hearing this guy is available.
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Keep your shitpoasting to the Tug.2001400ex said:
ISWYDTRaceBannon said:
He'd be a great pick2001400ex said:I'm hearing this guy is available.
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Hire Sark back and have him recruit some WR’s
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What was it about Tedford that allowed Pete to pursue and relinquish control? Why didn't Pete retain anything from Tedford's time here? Is the solution another Tedford or record setting WR's?
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I think it can be duplicated, but you have to find someone who is smart and willing to work for $30k or whatever the pay is.minion_doog said:What was it about Tedford that allowed Pete to pursue and relinquish control? Why didn't Pete retain anything from Tedford's time here? Is the solution another Tedford or record setting WR's?
Can the Tedford scenario be duplicated?
My impression is that position only really watches film and finds the exploits in the other team. They don't worry about recruiting, or anything else. And during the game they only have to worry about one thing, and can give advice to the playcaller, stuff the playcaller doesn't really see. -
I see what you did there.RaceBannon said:
He'd be a great pick2001400ex said:I'm hearing this guy is available.
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No, you hire back Sark so your fancy new shiny quarterback can let it rip!!!!!!sarktastic said:Hire Sark back and have him recruit some WR’s
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But what of the trust issues?creepycoug said:
No, you hire back Sark so your fancy new shiny quarterback can let it rip!!!!!!sarktastic said:Hire Sark back and have him recruit some WR’s
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Yes, a Tedford type would be nice but we don't know if Bush is or isn't that guy at this point.
What we definitely need is a talent upgrade ... and if reviewing and updating our scheme to get the talented guys on the field instead of their noses buried in playbooks that would help. -
Big back, buck, QB, WR,
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GTFOH2001400ex said:
I think it can be duplicated, but you have to find someone who is smart and willing to work for $30k or whatever the pay is.minion_doog said:What was it about Tedford that allowed Pete to pursue and relinquish control? Why didn't Pete retain anything from Tedford's time here? Is the solution another Tedford or record setting WR's?
Can the Tedford scenario be duplicated?
My impression is that position only really watches film and finds the exploits in the other team. They don't worry about recruiting, or anything else. And during the game they only have to worry about one thing, and can give advice to the playcaller, stuff the playcaller doesn't really see. -
Pete has to hire someone who is willing to tell him “no” and that he is wrong AND has the background/results to back it up.2001400ex said:
I think it can be duplicated, but you have to find someone who is smart and willing to work for $30k or whatever the pay is.minion_doog said:What was it about Tedford that allowed Pete to pursue and relinquish control? Why didn't Pete retain anything from Tedford's time here? Is the solution another Tedford or record setting WR's?
Can the Tedford scenario be duplicated?
My impression is that position only really watches film and finds the exploits in the other team. They don't worry about recruiting, or anything else. And during the game they only have to worry about one thing, and can give advice to the playcaller, stuff the playcaller doesn't really see.
Tedford worked because he had the experience of being a real coach, knew what he was doing, was willing to tell guys “above him” STFU I know what I’m doing, while having a resume to back it up.
IMO what Tedford did is not going to replicated because there aren’t that many guys like that out there. -
I really think the Tedford is the savior stuff is overblown. We had a good team and things clicked.
The OL was a little thinner depth wise, but pretty good.
We had two good RB’s.
Browning was more decisive and hadn’t been criticized (this was a bigger factor than some think).
Ross and Pettis on the outside.
Dissly and Sample were destroying guys.
I could be wrong, but I don’t think Tedford did as much as many on the board believe. -
What we need is a coach JUST LIKE DON JAMES!
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we also need to recruit good skill position players and simplify the offense
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There is nothing but a correlation over a single season to assert Tedford had fuck all to do with the offensive success.RoadDawg55 said:I really think the Tedford is the savior stuff is overblown. We had a good team and things clicked.
The OL was a little thinner depth wise, but pretty good.
We had two good RB’s.
Browning was more decisive and hadn’t been criticized (this was a bigger factor than some think).
Ross and Pettis on the outside.
Dissly and Sample were destroying guys.
I could be wrong, but I don’t think Tedford did as much as many on the board believe.
We took shots downfield constantly to 2 NFL receivers. The rainbows didn't matter as much.
Ross and McClatcher were extremely effective at the pussy sidline bubble screen stuff as well.
As you stated Lavon was an awesome #2.
We have to get talent back on that side of the ball. -
All of those have crossed my mind.HUSKYFANATIC said:Big back, buck, QB, WR,
The WRs should be significantly better next year, have heard great things about Spiker and he takes off his redshirt. Andre B. proved he can be a threat in space and I anticipate Ty Jones taking the next step (or else Austin Osborne will over take him). The X-factor is if Chico McClatcher comes back because he's a dangerous gadget guy out of the slot.
QB: Eason obviously won't be as mobile as Browning but he has the type of ceiling that can win you games
Big Back: Got nothing for you. I like Pleasant and he could be up to 210 lbs. but that's still not a big back. Locally for 2020, Sam Adams is 6'2" 200 lbs and it looks like the Huskies have offered him: https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/sam-adams-208704#school-interests
Kendall Milton is bigger at 215 lbs: https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/kendall-milton-11186#school-interests
Buck: Every time I think about Joe Tyron's breakout season in 2019, my crotch tightens. He has the length and athleticism we need. -
Kendall Milton didnt put us in his top 12 schools and right now is more likely to attend Frenso St than any Pac12 school.HFNY said:
All of those have crossed my mind.HUSKYFANATIC said:Big back, buck, QB, WR,
The WRs should be significantly better next year, have heard great things about Spiker and he takes off his redshirt. Andre B. proved he can be a threat in space and I anticipate Ty Jones taking the next step (or else Austin Osborne will over take him). The X-factor is if Chico McClatcher comes back because he's a dangerous gadget guy out of the slot.
QB: Eason obviously won't be as mobile as Browning but he has the type of ceiling that can win you games
Big Back: Got nothing for you. I like Pleasant and he could be up to 210 lbs. but that's still not a big back. Locally for 2020, Sam Adams is 6'2" 200 lbs and it looks like the Huskies have offered him: https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/sam-adams-208704#school-interests
Kendall Milton is bigger at 215 lbs: https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/kendall-milton-11186#school-interests
Buck: Every time I think about Joe Tyron's breakout season in 2019, my crotch tightens. He has the length and athleticism we need. -
That’s not obvs to me.HFNY said:...Eason obviously won't be as mobile as Browning...
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No he's not, stop it.Domicillo said:
Kendall Milton didnt put us in his top 12 schools and right now is more likely to attend Frenso St than any Pac12 school.HFNY said:
All of those have crossed my mind.HUSKYFANATIC said:Big back, buck, QB, WR,
The WRs should be significantly better next year, have heard great things about Spiker and he takes off his redshirt. Andre B. proved he can be a threat in space and I anticipate Ty Jones taking the next step (or else Austin Osborne will over take him). The X-factor is if Chico McClatcher comes back because he's a dangerous gadget guy out of the slot.
QB: Eason obviously won't be as mobile as Browning but he has the type of ceiling that can win you games
Big Back: Got nothing for you. I like Pleasant and he could be up to 210 lbs. but that's still not a big back. Locally for 2020, Sam Adams is 6'2" 200 lbs and it looks like the Huskies have offered him: https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/sam-adams-208704#school-interests
Kendall Milton is bigger at 215 lbs: https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/kendall-milton-11186#school-interests
Buck: Every time I think about Joe Tyron's breakout season in 2019, my crotch tightens. He has the length and athleticism we need.
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I didn’t say he was, I said it more likely he’d go to Fresno than a Pac12 school (usc only one in his top 10)HillsboroDuck said:
No he's not, stop it.Domicillo said:
Kendall Milton didnt put us in his top 12 schools and right now is more likely to attend Frenso St than any Pac12 school.HFNY said:
All of those have crossed my mind.HUSKYFANATIC said:Big back, buck, QB, WR,
The WRs should be significantly better next year, have heard great things about Spiker and he takes off his redshirt. Andre B. proved he can be a threat in space and I anticipate Ty Jones taking the next step (or else Austin Osborne will over take him). The X-factor is if Chico McClatcher comes back because he's a dangerous gadget guy out of the slot.
QB: Eason obviously won't be as mobile as Browning but he has the type of ceiling that can win you games
Big Back: Got nothing for you. I like Pleasant and he could be up to 210 lbs. but that's still not a big back. Locally for 2020, Sam Adams is 6'2" 200 lbs and it looks like the Huskies have offered him: https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/sam-adams-208704#school-interests
Kendall Milton is bigger at 215 lbs: https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/kendall-milton-11186#school-interests
Buck: Every time I think about Joe Tyron's breakout season in 2019, my crotch tightens. He has the length and athleticism we need. -
I know, and I'm saying he's not more likely to go to Fresno than a P12 school.Domicillo said:
I didn’t say he was, I said it more likely he’d go to Fresno than a Pac12 school (usc only one in his top 10)HillsboroDuck said:
No he's not, stop it.Domicillo said:
Kendall Milton didnt put us in his top 12 schools and right now is more likely to attend Frenso St than any Pac12 school.HFNY said:
All of those have crossed my mind.HUSKYFANATIC said:Big back, buck, QB, WR,
The WRs should be significantly better next year, have heard great things about Spiker and he takes off his redshirt. Andre B. proved he can be a threat in space and I anticipate Ty Jones taking the next step (or else Austin Osborne will over take him). The X-factor is if Chico McClatcher comes back because he's a dangerous gadget guy out of the slot.
QB: Eason obviously won't be as mobile as Browning but he has the type of ceiling that can win you games
Big Back: Got nothing for you. I like Pleasant and he could be up to 210 lbs. but that's still not a big back. Locally for 2020, Sam Adams is 6'2" 200 lbs and it looks like the Huskies have offered him: https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/sam-adams-208704#school-interests
Kendall Milton is bigger at 215 lbs: https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2020/kendall-milton-11186#school-interests
Buck: Every time I think about Joe Tyron's breakout season in 2019, my crotch tightens. He has the length and athleticism we need. -
Pass rush. The defense doesn't create nearly enough turnovers. The offense should be getting at least one short field, easy to a game.
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Yep.RoadDawg55 said:I really think the Tedford is the savior stuff is overblown. We had a good team and things clicked.
The OL was a little thinner depth wise, but pretty good.
We had two good RB’s.
Browning was more decisive and hadn’t been criticized (this was a bigger factor than some think).
Ross and Pettis on the outside.
Dissly and Sample were destroying guys.
I could be wrong, but I don’t think Tedford did as much as many on the board believe.
Tedford is a doog legend. -
Nobody here can definitively say what Tedford did in his role, let alone articulate why he was chiefly responsible for the offense’s success. It’s fucking stupid how much of a meme you’ve turned this Tedford thing into.
