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Full context on taxes
2001400ex
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Here is the full context on taxes when including payroll, State and local taxes.
https://itep.org/wp-content/uploads/taxday2017.pdf
https://itep.org/wp-content/uploads/taxday2017.pdf
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Do you have a point here that doesn't make you look stoooooopid?
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If it's not obvious to you. Probably better to not post.Blu82 said:Do you have a point here that doesn't make you look stoooooopid?
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Hondo has an argument to make here but unfortunately it's not based upon anything I or anyone else here said so he'll continue to cram his square peg into the round hole.
Hondo either because he is a liar or a moron thinks that this statement by me means that that top 1% pay 40% of all Federal taxes.
Top 1% of income earners are already paying close to 40% of all income taxes. How much more do you think they should pay?
Because Hondo has a very fragile ego he can't admit that he was wrong therefore he continues to lie and fuck his chicken and claim that I was either saying the top 1% pay 40% of their income in taxes.
So I read it that you were saying there pay close to 40% of their income. Wich isn't true.
Or he lies and claims that I said the top 1% pay 40% of all Federal taxes:
What do you think that does to the "top 1% pays almost 40% of federal taxes" argument?
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As usual the point flew over your head too.SFGbob said:Hondo has an argument to make here but unfortunately it's not based upon anything I or anyone else here said so he'll continue to cram his square peg into the round hole.
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Oh I got the "point" Hondo, you're both a liar and a fucking moron.
Why do you believe that a dumbfuck like yourself who struggles to comprehend the simple written word has the capacity to make some "point" that I wouldn't understand?
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So what was your "point" Hondo? You were too big a Kunt to actually state it. As usual you hide behind a cut and paste job and then declare that everyone has missed the "point" that you were too big a Kunt to actually state.2001400ex said:
As usual the point flew over your head too.SFGbob said:Hondo has an argument to make here but unfortunately it's not based upon anything I or anyone else here said so he'll continue to cram his square peg into the round hole.
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You of all people should know the point. As I've stated it many times. There's a narrative from you and others that the wealthy pay way too much in taxes and the poor don't pay anything. When you factor in the full context of taxes, as noted in the original post, every income bracket pays taxes pretty close to the amount of income they earn.SFGbob said:
So what was your "point" Hondo? You were too big a Kunt to actually state it. As usual you hide behind a cut and paste job and then declare that everyone has missed the "point" that you were too big a Kunt to actually state.2001400ex said:
As usual the point flew over your head too.SFGbob said:Hondo has an argument to make here but unfortunately it's not based upon anything I or anyone else here said so he'll continue to cram his square peg into the round hole.
Is that concept really difficult to accept? -
Oh yes a “narrative” that I never stated but you claim to have heard me say anyway.
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Hey Hondo you lying kunt, can you quote where I have ever stated this "narrative" you're attributing to me you strawman ass fucking Kunt? Do you ever base your arguments on what other people actually say Hondo or is it pretty much you just fucking strawman ass around here?2001400ex said:
You of all people should know the point. As I've stated it many times. There's a narrative from you and others that the wealthy pay way too much in taxes and the poor don't pay anything. When you factor in the full context of taxes, as noted in the original post, every income bracket pays taxes pretty close to the amount of income they earn.SFGbob said:
So what was your "point" Hondo? You were too big a Kunt to actually state it. As usual you hide behind a cut and paste job and then declare that everyone has missed the "point" that you were too big a Kunt to actually state.2001400ex said:
As usual the point flew over your head too.SFGbob said:Hondo has an argument to make here but unfortunately it's not based upon anything I or anyone else here said so he'll continue to cram his square peg into the round hole.
Is that concept really difficult to accept?
I've never claimed the poor pay no taxes you lying piece of shit. -
Your compoast and it's intended purpose eluded me for the very elementary reason that all of it is known by all, both far and near.2001400ex said:
If it's not obvious to you. Probably better to not post.Blu82 said:Do you have a point here that doesn't make you look stoooooopid?
Perhaps you could preface such things with a bit of explanation. Perhaps, "I can't participate in real intellectual exchanges so, this is MY best effort".
BTW, Lincoln got shot, the slaves were freed and Trump is still YOUR President.
I will look forward to you taking 30-40 lines informing us on how water is wet.
HTH -
Scaling tax rates are stupid and should be replaced by a flat tax. Simplify the damn thing
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Another simple mind post. All flat tax does is change a calculation in a computer. It doesn't simplify anything. The determination of income is the majority of the tax code and a flat tax doesn't fix that.greenblood said:Scaling tax rates are stupid and should be replaced by a flat tax. Simplify the damn thing
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Creepy's higher education at work here2001400ex said:
Another simple mind post. All flat tax does is change a calculation in a computer. It doesn't simplify anything. The determination of income is the majority of the tax code and a flat tax doesn't fix that.greenblood said:Scaling tax rates are stupid and should be replaced by a flat tax. Simplify the damn thing
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Other than effectively eliminating the need for most of the IRS, it wouldn't simply anything. Always love when you add "context" by sticking your head up your ass Hondo.2001400ex said:
Another simple mind post. All flat tax does is change a calculation in a computer. It doesn't simplify anything.greenblood said:Scaling tax rates are stupid and should be replaced by a flat tax. Simplify the damn thing
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Explain to me how a flat tax would eliminate most of the IRS.SFGbob said:
Other than effectively eliminating the need for most of the IRS, it wouldn't simply anything. Always love when you add "context" by sticking your head up your ass Hondo.2001400ex said:
Another simple mind post. All flat tax does is change a calculation in a computer. It doesn't simplify anything.greenblood said:Scaling tax rates are stupid and should be replaced by a flat tax. Simplify the damn thing
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Google it Kunt.
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I believe the idea is a flat tax would eliminate all write offs, deductions, etc. Your income is how much money you made, and you pay a flat percent on that period.2001400ex said:
Explain to me how a flat tax would eliminate most of the IRS.SFGbob said:
Other than effectively eliminating the need for most of the IRS, it wouldn't simply anything. Always love when you add "context" by sticking your head up your ass Hondo.2001400ex said:
Another simple mind post. All flat tax does is change a calculation in a computer. It doesn't simplify anything.greenblood said:Scaling tax rates are stupid and should be replaced by a flat tax. Simplify the damn thing
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The write offs are what allows congresspersons to get big cash from donorsHillsboroDuck said:
I believe the idea is a flat tax would eliminate all write offs, deductions, etc. Your income is how much money you made, and you pay a flat percent on that period.2001400ex said:
Explain to me how a flat tax would eliminate most of the IRS.SFGbob said:
Other than effectively eliminating the need for most of the IRS, it wouldn't simply anything. Always love when you add "context" by sticking your head up your ass Hondo.2001400ex said:
Another simple mind post. All flat tax does is change a calculation in a computer. It doesn't simplify anything.greenblood said:Scaling tax rates are stupid and should be replaced by a flat tax. Simplify the damn thing
Doesn't matter, it will never happen. -
Made how? What if I own a business? What can I deduct from that business? What is Personal expense and what is business expense? What if I use my home for my business? What about my trailer? My pickup? Cell phone? What if I make myself a contractor to my current employer?HillsboroDuck said:
I believe the idea is a flat tax would eliminate all write offs, deductions, etc. Your income is how much money you made, and you pay a flat percent on that period.2001400ex said:
Explain to me how a flat tax would eliminate most of the IRS.SFGbob said:
Other than effectively eliminating the need for most of the IRS, it wouldn't simply anything. Always love when you add "context" by sticking your head up your ass Hondo.2001400ex said:
Another simple mind post. All flat tax does is change a calculation in a computer. It doesn't simplify anything.greenblood said:Scaling tax rates are stupid and should be replaced by a flat tax. Simplify the damn thing
Doesn't matter, it will never happen.
You can tell a person who works for a wage from a person who owns a business. HTH. -
You can tell who is stupid by this post2001400ex said:
Made how? What if I own a business? What can I deduct from that business? What is Personal expense and what is business expense? What if I use my home for my business? What about my trailer? My pickup? Cell phone? What if I make myself a contractor to my current employer?HillsboroDuck said:
I believe the idea is a flat tax would eliminate all write offs, deductions, etc. Your income is how much money you made, and you pay a flat percent on that period.2001400ex said:
Explain to me how a flat tax would eliminate most of the IRS.SFGbob said:
Other than effectively eliminating the need for most of the IRS, it wouldn't simply anything. Always love when you add "context" by sticking your head up your ass Hondo.2001400ex said:
Another simple mind post. All flat tax does is change a calculation in a computer. It doesn't simplify anything.greenblood said:Scaling tax rates are stupid and should be replaced by a flat tax. Simplify the damn thing
Doesn't matter, it will never happen.
You can tell a person who works for a wage from a person who owns a business. HTH. -
Google it Hondo, what's the matter? Don't you want to educate yourself?2001400ex said:
Made how? What if I own a business? What can I deduct from that business? What is Personal expense and what is business expense? What if I use my home for my business? What about my trailer? My pickup? Cell phone? What if I make myself a contractor to my current employer?HillsboroDuck said:
I believe the idea is a flat tax would eliminate all write offs, deductions, etc. Your income is how much money you made, and you pay a flat percent on that period.2001400ex said:
Explain to me how a flat tax would eliminate most of the IRS.SFGbob said:
Other than effectively eliminating the need for most of the IRS, it wouldn't simply anything. Always love when you add "context" by sticking your head up your ass Hondo.2001400ex said:
Another simple mind post. All flat tax does is change a calculation in a computer. It doesn't simplify anything.greenblood said:Scaling tax rates are stupid and should be replaced by a flat tax. Simplify the damn thing
Doesn't matter, it will never happen.
You can tell a person who works for a wage from a person who owns a business. HTH. -
Hi there dumbass.2001400ex said:
Made how? What if I own a business? What can I deduct from that business? What is Personal expense and what is business expense? What if I use my home for my business? What about my trailer? My pickup? Cell phone? What if I make myself a contractor to my current employer?HillsboroDuck said:
I believe the idea is a flat tax would eliminate all write offs, deductions, etc. Your income is how much money you made, and you pay a flat percent on that period.2001400ex said:
Explain to me how a flat tax would eliminate most of the IRS.SFGbob said:
Other than effectively eliminating the need for most of the IRS, it wouldn't simply anything. Always love when you add "context" by sticking your head up your ass Hondo.2001400ex said:
Another simple mind post. All flat tax does is change a calculation in a computer. It doesn't simplify anything.greenblood said:Scaling tax rates are stupid and should be replaced by a flat tax. Simplify the damn thing
Doesn't matter, it will never happen.
You can tell a person who works for a wage from a person who owns a business. HTH.
"It will never happen".
Sincerely,
Salaried worker, son of small business owner. Small business owner who prepares taxes for a living.
Fuck off.
HTH -
If you are the son of a small business owner who prepares taxes for a living. Then you know that determination of income is the main reason that the IRS exists. Not because of the percentage of income a person is to pay.HillsboroDuck said:
Hi there dumbass.2001400ex said:
Made how? What if I own a business? What can I deduct from that business? What is Personal expense and what is business expense? What if I use my home for my business? What about my trailer? My pickup? Cell phone? What if I make myself a contractor to my current employer?HillsboroDuck said:
I believe the idea is a flat tax would eliminate all write offs, deductions, etc. Your income is how much money you made, and you pay a flat percent on that period.2001400ex said:
Explain to me how a flat tax would eliminate most of the IRS.SFGbob said:
Other than effectively eliminating the need for most of the IRS, it wouldn't simply anything. Always love when you add "context" by sticking your head up your ass Hondo.2001400ex said:
Another simple mind post. All flat tax does is change a calculation in a computer. It doesn't simplify anything.greenblood said:Scaling tax rates are stupid and should be replaced by a flat tax. Simplify the damn thing
Doesn't matter, it will never happen.
You can tell a person who works for a wage from a person who owns a business. HTH.
"It will never happen".
Sincerely,
Salaried worker, son of small business owner. Small business owner who prepares taxes for a living.
Fuck off.
HTH -
RaceBannon said:
You can tell who is stupid by this post2001400ex said:
Made how? What if I own a business? What can I deduct from that business? What is Personal expense and what is business expense? What if I use my home for my business? What about my trailer? My pickup? Cell phone? What if I make myself a contractor to my current employer?HillsboroDuck said:
I believe the idea is a flat tax would eliminate all write offs, deductions, etc. Your income is how much money you made, and you pay a flat percent on that period.2001400ex said:
Explain to me how a flat tax would eliminate most of the IRS.SFGbob said:
Other than effectively eliminating the need for most of the IRS, it wouldn't simply anything. Always love when you add "context" by sticking your head up your ass Hondo.2001400ex said:
Another simple mind post. All flat tax does is change a calculation in a computer. It doesn't simplify anything.greenblood said:Scaling tax rates are stupid and should be replaced by a flat tax. Simplify the damn thing
Doesn't matter, it will never happen.
You can tell a person who works for a wage from a person who owns a business. HTH.
So you don't understand either. -
Again someone explain why you have to pay a larger percentage if you make more money and how that fits under equal application of the law?2001400ex said:
As usual the point flew over your head too.SFGbob said:Hondo has an argument to make here but unfortunately it's not based upon anything I or anyone else here said so he'll continue to cram his square peg into the round hole.
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No shit sherlock.2001400ex said:
If you are the son of a small business owner who prepares taxes for a living. Then you know that determination of income is the main reason that the IRS exists. Not because of the percentage of income a person is to pay.HillsboroDuck said:
Hi there dumbass.2001400ex said:
Made how? What if I own a business? What can I deduct from that business? What is Personal expense and what is business expense? What if I use my home for my business? What about my trailer? My pickup? Cell phone? What if I make myself a contractor to my current employer?HillsboroDuck said:
I believe the idea is a flat tax would eliminate all write offs, deductions, etc. Your income is how much money you made, and you pay a flat percent on that period.2001400ex said:
Explain to me how a flat tax would eliminate most of the IRS.SFGbob said:
Other than effectively eliminating the need for most of the IRS, it wouldn't simply anything. Always love when you add "context" by sticking your head up your ass Hondo.2001400ex said:
Another simple mind post. All flat tax does is change a calculation in a computer. It doesn't simplify anything.greenblood said:Scaling tax rates are stupid and should be replaced by a flat tax. Simplify the damn thing
Doesn't matter, it will never happen.
You can tell a person who works for a wage from a person who owns a business. HTH.
"It will never happen".
Sincerely,
Salaried worker, son of small business owner. Small business owner who prepares taxes for a living.
Fuck off.
HTH
Which is why I explained to you the idea behind the flat tax is more about eliminating deductions than about the percentage of the tax.
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They don't by a drastic amount when you look at that chart. HTHSledog said:
Again someone explain why you have to pay a larger percentage if you make more money and how that fits under equal application of the law?2001400ex said:
As usual the point flew over your head too.SFGbob said:Hondo has an argument to make here but unfortunately it's not based upon anything I or anyone else here said so he'll continue to cram his square peg into the round hole.
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Oh I do2001400ex said:RaceBannon said:
You can tell who is stupid by this post2001400ex said:
Made how? What if I own a business? What can I deduct from that business? What is Personal expense and what is business expense? What if I use my home for my business? What about my trailer? My pickup? Cell phone? What if I make myself a contractor to my current employer?HillsboroDuck said:
I believe the idea is a flat tax would eliminate all write offs, deductions, etc. Your income is how much money you made, and you pay a flat percent on that period.2001400ex said:
Explain to me how a flat tax would eliminate most of the IRS.SFGbob said:
Other than effectively eliminating the need for most of the IRS, it wouldn't simply anything. Always love when you add "context" by sticking your head up your ass Hondo.2001400ex said:
Another simple mind post. All flat tax does is change a calculation in a computer. It doesn't simplify anything.greenblood said:Scaling tax rates are stupid and should be replaced by a flat tax. Simplify the damn thing
Doesn't matter, it will never happen.
You can tell a person who works for a wage from a person who owns a business. HTH.
So you don't understand either.
I understand you're a fucking moron
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Again, the main deductions like medical insurance, earned income credit, and housing are still just calculations in a computer or reported to the IRS. Those aren't issues that take time. The issues that do take time are actual determination of income.HillsboroDuck said:
No shit sherlock.2001400ex said:
If you are the son of a small business owner who prepares taxes for a living. Then you know that determination of income is the main reason that the IRS exists. Not because of the percentage of income a person is to pay.HillsboroDuck said:
Hi there dumbass.2001400ex said:
Made how? What if I own a business? What can I deduct from that business? What is Personal expense and what is business expense? What if I use my home for my business? What about my trailer? My pickup? Cell phone? What if I make myself a contractor to my current employer?HillsboroDuck said:
I believe the idea is a flat tax would eliminate all write offs, deductions, etc. Your income is how much money you made, and you pay a flat percent on that period.2001400ex said:
Explain to me how a flat tax would eliminate most of the IRS.SFGbob said:
Other than effectively eliminating the need for most of the IRS, it wouldn't simply anything. Always love when you add "context" by sticking your head up your ass Hondo.2001400ex said:
Another simple mind post. All flat tax does is change a calculation in a computer. It doesn't simplify anything.greenblood said:Scaling tax rates are stupid and should be replaced by a flat tax. Simplify the damn thing
Doesn't matter, it will never happen.
You can tell a person who works for a wage from a person who owns a business. HTH.
"It will never happen".
Sincerely,
Salaried worker, son of small business owner. Small business owner who prepares taxes for a living.
Fuck off.
HTH
Which is why I explained to you the idea behind the flat tax is more about eliminating deductions than about the percentage of the tax.
Also why it will never fucking happen.
