Jerry Seinfeld says the Oscars lost in the Kevin Hart controversy

DerekJohnson said:

2001400ex said:

DerekJohnson said:

I posted this more for the point that a comedian who makes an offensive tweet six years ago is now forced out of hosting the Oscars. This trend we're on as a nation must be reversed or we're going to end up in horrific areas that we can't even imagine.

It wasn't one tweet. And the Oscars are a private business that can do business with who they choose. That's all part of freedom as well. You say stupid shit, you deal with the consequences. That being said, he suffered no damages and is still a successful comedian and actor that makes more than millions. I don't feel bad for the dude even tho I like him. And will still watch him.

Once again, you either intentionally miss the point or you don't get it. I tend to assume that you intentionally miss the point and move the argument.

I never said the Oscars shouldn't be allowed to do whatever they want to do. I'm not going to waste time and energy explaining it any further to someone who doesn't want to understand and acknowledge the larger point anyway.

Nah man I get the point. If it were one tweet in jest, it wouldn't have been a big deal. And to me the larger issue is people getting freaked out about what comedians say on stage in a paid show. That is private, if you don't like what the comedian says, don't go to the show.

But I don't see an issue in this instance, given the content of his tweets and the amount of them, with him getting removed from the Oscars.

Our country is moving in a direction where it's not ok to use the N word (which given my like of 90s hip hop....). It's not ok to hate on gay people. It's not ok to fat shame. Whatever it is. I personally think that's a good thing, people should have respect for others. Just like this place, we are a group of assholes and most of us are anonymous and we all have our schtick and I generally laugh at whatever. And I wasn't offended by Hart's tweets, but I understand why many people were.

As a public figure, like it or not, there is a bar that if you cross, there are consequences. With social media, it's bringing a whole other level of issues.

PurpleThrobber said:

2001400ex said:

DerekJohnson said:

2001400ex said:

DerekJohnson said:

I posted this more for the point that a comedian who makes an offensive tweet six years ago is now forced out of hosting the Oscars. This trend we're on as a nation must be reversed or we're going to end up in horrific areas that we can't even imagine.

It wasn't one tweet. And the Oscars are a private business that can do business with who they choose. That's all part of freedom as well. You say stupid shit, you deal with the consequences. That being said, he suffered no damages and is still a successful comedian and actor that makes more than millions. I don't feel bad for the dude even tho I like him. And will still watch him.

Once again, you either intentionally miss the point or you don't get it. I tend to assume that you intentionally miss the point and move the argument.

I never said the Oscars shouldn't be allowed to do whatever they want to do. I'm not going to waste time and energy explaining it any further to someone who doesn't want to understand and acknowledge the larger point anyway.

Nah man I get the point. If it were one tweet in jest, it wouldn't have been a big deal. And to me the larger issue is people getting freaked out about what comedians say on stage in a paid show. That is private, if you don't like what the comedian says, don't go to the show.

But I don't see an issue in this instance, given the content of his tweets and the amount of them, with him getting removed from the Oscars.

Our country is moving in a direction where it's not ok to use the N word (which given my like of 90s hip hop....). It's not ok to hate on gay people. It's not ok to fat shame. Whatever it is. I personally think that's a good thing, people should have respect for others. Just like this place, we are a group of assholes and most of us are anonymous and we all have our schtick and I generally laugh at whatever. And I wasn't offended by Hart's tweets, but I understand why many people were.

As a public figure, like it or not, there is a bar that if you cross, there are consequences. With social media, it's bringing a whole other level of issues.

If by ‘issues’ you mean spineless pussies overreacting to meaningless shit, yeah...that.

Whatever happened to sticks and stones may break my bones.....?!? First graders could figure that out.

Yes but as a public figure, you can't say that shit. As a boss, I can't tell the hot 23 year old intern that she's fucking hot and I'd love to get with that. That was acceptable and pretty much understood 30 years ago. This is just another evolution in our society.

PurpleThrobber said:

2001400ex said:

PurpleThrobber said:

2001400ex said:

DerekJohnson said:

2001400ex said:

DerekJohnson said:

I posted this more for the point that a comedian who makes an offensive tweet six years ago is now forced out of hosting the Oscars. This trend we're on as a nation must be reversed or we're going to end up in horrific areas that we can't even imagine.

It wasn't one tweet. And the Oscars are a private business that can do business with who they choose. That's all part of freedom as well. You say stupid shit, you deal with the consequences. That being said, he suffered no damages and is still a successful comedian and actor that makes more than millions. I don't feel bad for the dude even tho I like him. And will still watch him.

Once again, you either intentionally miss the point or you don't get it. I tend to assume that you intentionally miss the point and move the argument.

I never said the Oscars shouldn't be allowed to do whatever they want to do. I'm not going to waste time and energy explaining it any further to someone who doesn't want to understand and acknowledge the larger point anyway.

Nah man I get the point. If it were one tweet in jest, it wouldn't have been a big deal. And to me the larger issue is people getting freaked out about what comedians say on stage in a paid show. That is private, if you don't like what the comedian says, don't go to the show.

But I don't see an issue in this instance, given the content of his tweets and the amount of them, with him getting removed from the Oscars.

Our country is moving in a direction where it's not ok to use the N word (which given my like of 90s hip hop....). It's not ok to hate on gay people. It's not ok to fat shame. Whatever it is. I personally think that's a good thing, people should have respect for others. Just like this place, we are a group of assholes and most of us are anonymous and we all have our schtick and I generally laugh at whatever. And I wasn't offended by Hart's tweets, but I understand why many people were.

As a public figure, like it or not, there is a bar that if you cross, there are consequences. With social media, it's bringing a whole other level of issues.

If by ‘issues’ you mean spineless pussies overreacting to meaningless shit, yeah...that.

Whatever happened to sticks and stones may break my bones.....?!? First graders could figure that out.

Yes but as a public figure, you can't say that shit. As a boss, I can't tell the hot 23 year old intern that she's fucking hot and I'd love to get with that. That was acceptable and pretty much understood 30 years ago. This is just another evolution in our society.

Fine - except Kevin Hart wasn’t going Weinstein. He was talking shit like he has for years and saying shit that the vast majority of people find funny as hell and spent millions of dollars to enjoy.

Fuck the 1% pussies who think they set moral standards.

No.... He wasn't making gay jokes... Here's an article that discuss it.. Part of it was the content of the tweets. Part of it was his reaction.. If he just came out and apologized, he probably would not have gotten fired.

https://www.wired.com/story/kevin-hart-oscars-tweets/

And Derek, that truly is my rebuttal to your point. I get your point in the bigger issue you are afraid of. But in this instance, his tweets were very numerous, not PC, and when confronted, he didn't apologize.

Couple of nice, well thought responses.

TurdBuffer said:

2001400ex said:

PurpleThrobber said:

2001400ex said:

DerekJohnson said:

2001400ex said:

DerekJohnson said:

I posted this more for the point that a comedian who makes an offensive tweet six years ago is now forced out of hosting the Oscars. This trend we're on as a nation must be reversed or we're going to end up in horrific areas that we can't even imagine.

It wasn't one tweet. And the Oscars are a private business that can do business with who they choose. That's all part of freedom as well. You say stupid shit, you deal with the consequences. That being said, he suffered no damages and is still a successful comedian and actor that makes more than millions. I don't feel bad for the dude even tho I like him. And will still watch him.

Once again, you either intentionally miss the point or you don't get it. I tend to assume that you intentionally miss the point and move the argument.

I never said the Oscars shouldn't be allowed to do whatever they want to do. I'm not going to waste time and energy explaining it any further to someone who doesn't want to understand and acknowledge the larger point anyway.

Nah man I get the point. If it were one tweet in jest, it wouldn't have been a big deal. And to me the larger issue is people getting freaked out about what comedians say on stage in a paid show. That is private, if you don't like what the comedian says, don't go to the show.

But I don't see an issue in this instance, given the content of his tweets and the amount of them, with him getting removed from the Oscars.

Our country is moving in a direction where it's not ok to use the N word (which given my like of 90s hip hop....). It's not ok to hate on gay people. It's not ok to fat shame. Whatever it is. I personally think that's a good thing, people should have respect for others. Just like this place, we are a group of assholes and most of us are anonymous and we all have our schtick and I generally laugh at whatever. And I wasn't offended by Hart's tweets, but I understand why many people were.

As a public figure, like it or not, there is a bar that if you cross, there are consequences. With social media, it's bringing a whole other level of issues.

If by ‘issues’ you mean spineless pussies overreacting to meaningless shit, yeah...that.

Whatever happened to sticks and stones may break my bones.....?!? First graders could figure that out.

Yes but as a public figure, you can't say that shit. As a boss, I can't tell the hot 23 year old intern that she's fucking hot and I'd love to get with that. That was acceptable and pretty much understood 30 years ago. This is just another evolution in our society.

Dream on. No hot 23 year old intern will work for you, ever.

Sic burn bro