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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,018 Founders Club
    Look who proved me right
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Look who proved me right

    The judge continued: “arguably, you (Flynn) sold your country out.”
  • BearsWiin
    BearsWiin Member Posts: 5,076
    Must be one of those Mexican Obama "judges"
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,018 Founders Club
    edited December 2018
    If either of you pretended to give a shit about equal application of the law I might value your opinion more than the used piece of toilet paper I flushed this morning

    So serious he got no time

    Your candidate that lost acted as an unregistered agent of a foreign country to help launch this phony investigation

    Be proud
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,204
    Your candidate that lost acted as an unregistered agent of a foreign country to help launch this phony investigation


    You don't understand the Kunt logic defense Race. Since Hillary isn't in jail this never really happened although all of them are too big a coward to actually come out and clearly make that statement.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,380

    https://foxnews.com/politics/case-michael-flynn-timeline

    Dec. 9, 2018

    In a panel appearance with MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace, former FBI Director Comey was asked how FBI agents ended up at the White House on Jan. 24, 2017 to interview Flynn. Comey's response provided new details about the circumstances that fueled criticism of the bureau's conduct:

    “I sent them,” Comey said, adding that it was “something I probably wouldn’t have done or maybe gotten away with in a more … organized administration.”

    The interview was arranged directly with Flynn, which was not typical protocol.

    “If the FBI wanted to send agents into the White House itself to interview a senior official, you would work through the White House counsel, and there would be discussions and approvals of who would be there,” Comey said, describing how things normally would work.

    Regarding his decision to bypass those steps, he said: “I thought: 'It’s early enough, let’s just send a couple guys over.'”

    Flynn’s attorneys said in a court filing that former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe nudged Flynn not to have an attorney present during the questioning that led to his guilty plea.

    The document revealed that the FBI took a significantly more aggressive tack in handling the Flynn interview than it did during other similar matters, including the agency’s sit-downs with Hillary Clinton and ex-Trump adviser George Papadopoulos, who was also charged with making false statements to federal investigators.

    Flynn’s attorneys alleged that the FBI agents in his case did not instruct Flynn that any false statements he made could constitute a crime, and decided not to “confront” him directly about anything he said that contradicted their knowledge of his wiretapped communications with Kislyak.

    If “Flynn said he did not remember something they knew he said, they would use the exact words Flynn used . . . to try to refresh his recollection," FBI agents wrote in the so-called "302" witness interview report cited by the filing. "If Flynn still would not confirm what he said . . . they would not confront him or talk him through it.”

    Dec. 14, 2018

    Mueller faces an afternoon deadline to produce the sensitive FBI documents related to Flynn’s interviews.

    Sullivan’s brief order stated that Mueller can choose to file the materials under seal if necessary.

    Sullivan also ordered the Flynn team to turn over the documents backing up their assertions.

    Flynn is set to be sentenced next Tuesday – but Sullivan’s review could potentially delay that date.

    Sullivan has the authority to toss Flynn’s guilty plea and the charge against him if he concludes that the FBI interfered with Flynn’s constitutional right to counsel, although he has given no indications that he intends to do so.

    If you all get nothing else, ever, out of my presence here, get this: don't agree to that. Not ever, under any circumstances. Get a lawyer, and not a pretend one like me. A real one who knows how to handle law enforcement. I've been in rooms where the DOJ is going after pretty powerful, or at least very wealthy, people, and even with their attorneys present, you could see the fear in their eyes. All the bravado washes away, even with the really tuff guys like bobsled. It's no joke. The feds, in particular, are cold-hearted killers. They have no emotion, no humor, no empathy, no "we get it", no "I don't blame you, but," no humanity, nothing to indicate you are talking to another real person. All they want to do is pin your ass to wheel and throw you in the slammer. The more money you make, the more motivated they are to hang you.

    Never, ever go it alone. No matter what they promise, you get what you deserve if you go in naked.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,380

    The 302 report states that Strzok and the other agent “both had the impression at the time that Flynn was not lying or did not think he was lying.” It also states that several unnamed people back at FBI headquarters “later argued about the FBI’s decision to interview Flynn.”

    The report described Flynn as “unguarded,” saying he “clearly saw the FBI agents as allies.” It also states Flynn discussed a number of “various subjects,” including things like hotels stayed in during the campaign, Trump’s “knack for interior design” and other issues un-related to their inquiry.

    “Flynn was so talkative, and had so much time for them, that Strzok wondered if the national security adviser did not have more important things to do than have a such a relaxed, non-pertinent discussion with them,” it said.

    It comes days after Flynn’s legal team made the bombshell allegation that the FBI pushed him not to bring a lawyer to his fateful Jan. 24, 2017 interview with agents at the White House.

    Jimminy. Who is this guy? I'm more concerned about why Trump would pick someone so stupid to serve. Jim Jim Jimminy what a rookie mistake.
  • USMChawk
    USMChawk Member Posts: 1,800

    The 302 report states that Strzok and the other agent “both had the impression at the time that Flynn was not lying or did not think he was lying.” It also states that several unnamed people back at FBI headquarters “later argued about the FBI’s decision to interview Flynn.”

    The report described Flynn as “unguarded,” saying he “clearly saw the FBI agents as allies.” It also states Flynn discussed a number of “various subjects,” including things like hotels stayed in during the campaign, Trump’s “knack for interior design” and other issues un-related to their inquiry.

    “Flynn was so talkative, and had so much time for them, that Strzok wondered if the national security adviser did not have more important things to do than have a such a relaxed, non-pertinent discussion with them,” it said.

    It comes days after Flynn’s legal team made the bombshell allegation that the FBI pushed him not to bring a lawyer to his fateful Jan. 24, 2017 interview with agents at the White House.

    Jimminy. Who is this guy? I'm more concerned about why Trump would pick someone so stupid to serve. Jim Jim Jimminy what a rookie mistake.
    He’s a guy that lived his life in the military, not in politics, so his personal experience was much more trusting than it should have been. Although, at the General level, there is a lot of exposure to politics/politicians, so it is a hard to understand. Rookie mistake sums it up perfectly.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,380
    USMChawk said:

    The 302 report states that Strzok and the other agent “both had the impression at the time that Flynn was not lying or did not think he was lying.” It also states that several unnamed people back at FBI headquarters “later argued about the FBI’s decision to interview Flynn.”

    The report described Flynn as “unguarded,” saying he “clearly saw the FBI agents as allies.” It also states Flynn discussed a number of “various subjects,” including things like hotels stayed in during the campaign, Trump’s “knack for interior design” and other issues un-related to their inquiry.

    “Flynn was so talkative, and had so much time for them, that Strzok wondered if the national security adviser did not have more important things to do than have a such a relaxed, non-pertinent discussion with them,” it said.

    It comes days after Flynn’s legal team made the bombshell allegation that the FBI pushed him not to bring a lawyer to his fateful Jan. 24, 2017 interview with agents at the White House.

    Jimminy. Who is this guy? I'm more concerned about why Trump would pick someone so stupid to serve. Jim Jim Jimminy what a rookie mistake.
    He’s a guy that lived his life in the military, not in politics, so his personal experience was much more trusting than it should have been. Although, at the General level, there is a lot of exposure to politics/politicians, so it is a hard to understand. Rookie mistake sums it up perfectly.
    The wallet card version: if the feds want to talk to you, it is because they want your help hanging (1) you or (2) someone else. There is no other motive, ever.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    Nobody is a big enough retard to believe Flynn didn't know any better than to talk to the FBI without counsel.

    The judge on the case thinks Flynn is s huge piece of shit.

    Sounds to me like Flynn served up some real dirt.

    Hammer about to drop.