Best UW secondary of all time?
Jimmy Lake the GOAT.
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And J, u dont watch pac12. Your posts mean nothing to me, and have no place anywhere on a husky forum. Just shut your ignorant cuntHillsboroDuck said:Last offseason I was called an idiot for saying this years secondary could be even better than 2016's. I'm not sure they ended up better but fuck you if you can't see they were fucking close.
Jimmy Lake the GOAT.
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A secondary so good the entire team leaned on it.
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I still think 2016 is better BUT Byron Murphy is the GOAT out of all of them.
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He is special. So was Sid.
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Oh so close. I'd take SMFJ, LAN, and Baker with frosh Rapp. I think so anyways. Those guys benefited from a better front 7 plus an offense that tended to put more pressure on opposing offenses though. Rating them against each other is hard.
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Best secondary of all time will be replaced each of the next 3 seasons.
Taylor
Molden
McKinney
Hampton
Gordon
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Murphy and Jones are pretty comparable. King was better than Miller. Budda was way better than Bryant and this is the difference IMO. Budda's ability to close and tackle in space was insane. We're splitting hairs here though.
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I think the DL play was significantly better in 2016, this unit might just as good, they just played behind a worse DL. The 2016 DL does not get enough credit, it was a solid unit. Dare I say best UW DL unit of my lifetime
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Two CCG and two defensive backs get MVP
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Byron has had his share of highlight reel plays but Kev and Budda were more complete players. Both of those guys were way more impactful in the run game than Byron. In terms of pure coverage/ball skills I can see the argument for Byron but I would give the nod to Kev or Budda overall. Budda in particular was an animal in run coverage and was a very effective blitzer.CuntWaffle said:I still think 2016 is better BUT Byron Murphy is the GOAT out of all of them.
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I think you have to consider how much having an actual pass rush helped the 2016 secondary. I love those guys with all my heart but I think they had a much easier task than the 2018 secondary did.
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Safeties: Julius Irvin, Asa Turner
Corners: Keith Taylor, Elijah Molden
Making plays/crushing pussy: Kyler Gordon, Dom Hampton
Oh yea: Kam Fab, Brandon McKinney, Cam Williams,
Our secondary is going to be BETTER than it has been the past few years. That is fucking nuts. -
Major point in 2018's favor: The D's given up 2.2 less points per game than 2016 did despite having a far inferior front 6/7 and a rookie play caller.
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If I could have any DB back it would be Budda no doubt.ToddTurnerLIVES said:
Byron has had his share of highlight reel plays but Kev and Budda were more complete players. Both of those guys were way more impactful in the run game than Byron. In terms of pure coverage/ball skills I can see the argument for Byron but I would give the nod to Kev or Budda overall. Budda in particular was an animal in run coverage and was a very effective blitzer.CuntWaffle said:I still think 2016 is better BUT Byron Murphy is the GOAT out of all of them.
But Budda never won a game by himself. Murphy fucking alpha maled the shit out of that game and WON it himself. A conference championship game. A cornerback. If we don’t have Byron Murphy we lose that game.
Murphy has had moments where you could see him counting his money, Budda never had any of those. But Murphy is such an explosive defensive playmake it is ridiculous. -
If Budda had ball skills he'd be the choice, but he did not.ToddTurnerLIVES said:
Byron has had his share of highlight reel plays but Kev and Budda were more complete players. Both of those guys were way more impactful in the run game than Byron. In terms of pure coverage/ball skills I can see the argument for Byron but I would give the nod to Kev or Budda overall. Budda in particular was an animal in run coverage and was a very effective blitzer.CuntWaffle said:I still think 2016 is better BUT Byron Murphy is the GOAT out of all of them.
Give me Murphy. -
It helps explain the lack of ints and sometimes suspect third and long play this year. Zone coverage seems way less soft when you can generate pressure with just 3 or 4 lineman.HillsboroDuck said:I think you have to consider how much having an actual pass rush helped the 2016 secondary. I love those guys with all my heart but I think they had a much easier task than the 2018 secondary did.
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Obvs ‘91 secondary was amazing too. But I just wanna put in a plug for the Purple Reign secondary: Vestee Jackson, JC Pearson, Ron Milus, Tim Peoples, Darryl Hall, Jimmy Rodgers, etc. Those guys were savages.
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excellent pointTTJ said:Obvs ‘91 secondary was amazing too. But I just wanna put in a plug for the Purple Reign secondary: Vestee Jackson, JC Pearson, Ron Milus, Tim Peoples, Darryl Hall, Jimmy Rodgers, etc. Those guys were savages.
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Yes
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Best (Stanford) secondary of my lifetime
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Even if I would say that 2016 is better than 2018, Jojo/Rapp are way better this year than they were in 2016.RedRocket said:Murphy and Jones are pretty comparable. King was better than Miller. Budda was way better than Bryant and this is the difference IMO. Budda's ability to close and tackle in space was insane. We're splitting hairs here though.
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Also major point in 2018’s favor is the horrible special teams. Guessing average starting field position for the D was considerably worse in 2018, but can’t find any good stats on that.HillsboroDuck said:Major point in 2018's favor: The D's given up 2.2 less points per game than 2016 did despite having a far inferior front 6/7 and a rookie play caller.
