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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HuskyJW said:

    I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.

    Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.

    Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!

    My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
    When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
    are you arguing that if your coworker is a pedophile and downloading underage porn with the help of his cubicle friend at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by your boss because you worked at the same company as the guy as punishment?
    No, but that's a great strawman as always.
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HuskyJW said:

    I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.

    Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.

    Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!

    My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
    When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
    are you arguing that if your coworker is a pedophile and downloading underage porn with the help of his cubicle friend at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by your boss because you worked at the same company as the guy as punishment?
    No, but that's a great strawman as always.
    I dont see the difference
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HuskyJW said:

    I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.

    Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.

    Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!

    My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
    When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
    are you arguing that if your coworker is a pedophile and downloading underage porn with the help of his cubicle friend at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by your boss because you worked at the same company as the guy as punishment?
    No, but that's a great strawman as always.
    I dont see the difference
    The difference is that as a coworker, I have no control over the idiots in the cubes near me do.

    As a guy who ran Penn State football, Joe Paterno could have asked Sandusky to LEAVE! the Penn State football facilities forever.

    Try next time, please.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,532 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited June 2013

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HuskyJW said:

    I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.

    Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.

    Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!

    My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
    When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
    are you arguing that if your coworker is a pedophile and downloading underage porn with the help of his cubicle friend at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by your boss because you worked at the same company as the guy as punishment?
    No, but that's a great strawman as always.
    I dont see the difference
    The difference is that as a coworker, I have no control over the idiots in the cubes near me do.

    As a guy who ran Penn State football, Joe Paterno could have asked Sandusky to LEAVE! the Penn State football facilities forever.

    Try next time, please.
    Have to agree with this. That Sandusky still used Penn State facilities after the investigations in the late 90's and McQuery telling Paterno about Sandusky raping a boy in the shower is incredible.

    Penn State deserved some punishment for letting this happen, although the extent to which they were penalized is bullshit.

    I'm kind of torn in this case. On one hand, the players had nothing to do with any of this, and no NCAA rules were broken. On the other hand, Penn State deserved to be punished.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HuskyJW said:

    I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.

    Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.

    Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!

    My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
    When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
    are you arguing that if your coworker is a pedophile and downloading underage porn with the help of his cubicle friend at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by your boss because you worked at the same company as the guy as punishment?
    No, but that's a great strawman as always.
    I dont see the difference
    The difference is that as a coworker, I have no control over the idiots in the cubes near me do.

    As a guy who ran Penn State football, Joe Paterno could have asked Sandusky to LEAVE! the Penn State football facilities forever.

    Try next time, please.
    Have to agree with this. That Sandusky still used Penn State facilities after the investigations in the late 90's and McQuery telling Paterno about Sandusky raping a boy in the shower is incredible.

    Penn State deserved some punishment for letting this happen, although the extent to which they were penalized is bullshit.

    I'm kind of torn in this case. On one hand, the players had nothing to do with any of this, and no NCAA rules were broken. On the other hand, Penn State deserved to be punished.
    What does anyone currently at Penn State deserve to be punished for?
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited June 2013

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HuskyJW said:

    I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.

    Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.

    Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!

    My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
    When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
    are you arguing that if your coworker is a pedophile and downloading underage porn with the help of his cubicle friend at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by your boss because you worked at the same company as the guy as punishment?
    No, but that's a great strawman as always.
    I dont see the difference
    The difference is that as a coworker, I have no control over the idiots in the cubes near me do.

    As a guy who ran Penn State football, Joe Paterno could have asked Sandusky to LEAVE! the Penn State football facilities forever.

    Try next time, please.
    Have to agree with this. That Sandusky still used Penn State facilities after the investigations in the late 90's and McQuery telling Paterno about Sandusky raping a boy in the shower is incredible.

    Penn State deserved some punishment for letting this happen, although the extent to which they were penalized is bullshit.

    I'm kind of torn in this case. On one hand, the players had nothing to do with any of this, and no NCAA rules were broken. On the other hand, Penn State deserved to be punished.
    Penn state can be sued and fined. Just like the Catholic Church. Although banning the church wouldn't be a bad idea (hi Harv!), its not a option.
  • HarveyRoad
    HarveyRoad Member Posts: 121

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HuskyJW said:

    I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.

    Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.

    Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!

    My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
    When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
    are you arguing that if your coworker is a pedophile and downloading underage porn with the help of his cubicle friend at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by your boss because you worked at the same company as the guy as punishment?
    No, but that's a great strawman as always.
    I dont see the difference
    The difference is that as a coworker, I have no control over the idiots in the cubes near me do.

    As a guy who ran Penn State football, Joe Paterno could have asked Sandusky to LEAVE! the Penn State football facilities forever.

    Try next time, please.
    Have to agree with this. That Sandusky still used Penn State facilities after the investigations in the late 90's and McQuery telling Paterno about Sandusky raping a boy in the shower is incredible.

    Penn State deserved some punishment for letting this happen, although the extent to which they were penalized is bullshit.

    I'm kind of torn in this case. On one hand, the players had nothing to do with any of this, and no NCAA rules were broken. On the other hand, Penn State deserved to be punished.
    Penn state can be sued and fined. Just like the Catholic Church. Although banning the church wouldn't be a bad idea (hi Harv!), its not a option.
    The Church is on the way to banning itself.
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    edited June 2013

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HuskyJW said:

    I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.

    Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.

    Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!

    My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
    When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
    are you arguing that if your coworker is a pedophile and downloading underage porn with the help of his cubicle friend at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by your boss because you worked at the same company as the guy as punishment?
    No, but that's a great strawman as always.
    I dont see the difference
    The difference is that as a coworker, I have no control over the idiots in the cubes near me do.

    As a guy who ran Penn State football, Joe Paterno could have asked Sandusky to LEAVE! the Penn State football facilities forever.

    Try next time, please.
    Oh sorry let me fix it for you;

    Are you arguing that if your boss doesnt fire your coworker that is a pedophile and downloading underage porn at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by the board of directors because you worked at the same company as the pedophile?

    The punishments that were handed down by Emmert and the NCAA vacate wins and records from players who "have no control over the idiots in the cubes in charge" and punish future players that were in junior high or elementary school during the molestation with restrictions on bowl games, scholarships, and big10 TV money. The icing on the cake is the NCAA punishing tax payers with a 60 million dollar "fine".

    Which NCAA rule did Penn state break?
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HuskyJW said:

    I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.

    Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.

    Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!

    My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
    When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
    are you arguing that if your coworker is a pedophile and downloading underage porn with the help of his cubicle friend at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by your boss because you worked at the same company as the guy as punishment?
    No, but that's a great strawman as always.
    I dont see the difference
    The difference is that as a coworker, I have no control over the idiots in the cubes near me do.

    As a guy who ran Penn State football, Joe Paterno could have asked Sandusky to LEAVE! the Penn State football facilities forever.

    Try next time, please.
    Have to agree with this. That Sandusky still used Penn State facilities after the investigations in the late 90's and McQuery telling Paterno about Sandusky raping a boy in the shower is incredible.

    Penn State deserved some punishment for letting this happen, although the extent to which they were penalized is bullshit.

    I'm kind of torn in this case. On one hand, the players had nothing to do with any of this, and no NCAA rules were broken. On the other hand, Penn State deserved to be punished.
    What does anyone currently at Penn State deserve to be punished for?
    Following that logic, no one except maybe some coaches should ever get punished by the NCAA.

    I agree, but that's not the NCAA's punishment model.

    I wish Emmert would finish destroying this bullshit organization already.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HuskyJW said:

    I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.

    Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.

    Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!

    My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
    When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
    are you arguing that if your coworker is a pedophile and downloading underage porn with the help of his cubicle friend at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by your boss because you worked at the same company as the guy as punishment?
    No, but that's a great strawman as always.
    I dont see the difference
    The difference is that as a coworker, I have no control over the idiots in the cubes near me do.

    As a guy who ran Penn State football, Joe Paterno could have asked Sandusky to LEAVE! the Penn State football facilities forever.

    Try next time, please.
    Have to agree with this. That Sandusky still used Penn State facilities after the investigations in the late 90's and McQuery telling Paterno about Sandusky raping a boy in the shower is incredible.

    Penn State deserved some punishment for letting this happen, although the extent to which they were penalized is bullshit.

    I'm kind of torn in this case. On one hand, the players had nothing to do with any of this, and no NCAA rules were broken. On the other hand, Penn State deserved to be punished.
    What does anyone currently at Penn State deserve to be punished for?
    Following that logic, no one except maybe some coaches should ever get punished by the NCAA.

    I agree, but that's not the NCAA's punishment model.

    I wish Emmert would finish destroying this bullshit organization already.
    No one should have been punished by the NCAA. Any punishment should have been through criminal and civil courts. NCAA just had to grandstand. Notice how quickly they moved. What normally takes month they did in days. They had to do it while it was in the news and it was the outrage of the day. The NCAA punished PSU for their own benefit, not to serve any sort of justice.