I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.
Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.
Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!
My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
are you arguing that if your coworker is a pedophile and downloading underage porn with the help of his cubicle friend at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by your boss because you worked at the same company as the guy as punishment?
I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.
Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.
Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!
My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
are you arguing that if your coworker is a pedophile and downloading underage porn with the help of his cubicle friend at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by your boss because you worked at the same company as the guy as punishment?
I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.
Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.
Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!
My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
are you arguing that if your coworker is a pedophile and downloading underage porn with the help of his cubicle friend at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by your boss because you worked at the same company as the guy as punishment?
No, but that's a great strawman as always.
I dont see the difference
The difference is that as a coworker, I have no control over the idiots in the cubes near me do.
As a guy who ran Penn State football, Joe Paterno could have asked Sandusky to LEAVE! the Penn State football facilities forever.
I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.
Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.
Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!
My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
are you arguing that if your coworker is a pedophile and downloading underage porn with the help of his cubicle friend at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by your boss because you worked at the same company as the guy as punishment?
No, but that's a great strawman as always.
I dont see the difference
The difference is that as a coworker, I have no control over the idiots in the cubes near me do.
As a guy who ran Penn State football, Joe Paterno could have asked Sandusky to LEAVE! the Penn State football facilities forever.
Try next time, please.
Have to agree with this. That Sandusky still used Penn State facilities after the investigations in the late 90's and McQuery telling Paterno about Sandusky raping a boy in the shower is incredible.
Penn State deserved some punishment for letting this happen, although the extent to which they were penalized is bullshit.
I'm kind of torn in this case. On one hand, the players had nothing to do with any of this, and no NCAA rules were broken. On the other hand, Penn State deserved to be punished.
I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.
Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.
Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!
My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
are you arguing that if your coworker is a pedophile and downloading underage porn with the help of his cubicle friend at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by your boss because you worked at the same company as the guy as punishment?
No, but that's a great strawman as always.
I dont see the difference
The difference is that as a coworker, I have no control over the idiots in the cubes near me do.
As a guy who ran Penn State football, Joe Paterno could have asked Sandusky to LEAVE! the Penn State football facilities forever.
Try next time, please.
Have to agree with this. That Sandusky still used Penn State facilities after the investigations in the late 90's and McQuery telling Paterno about Sandusky raping a boy in the shower is incredible.
Penn State deserved some punishment for letting this happen, although the extent to which they were penalized is bullshit.
I'm kind of torn in this case. On one hand, the players had nothing to do with any of this, and no NCAA rules were broken. On the other hand, Penn State deserved to be punished.
What does anyone currently at Penn State deserve to be punished for?
I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.
Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.
Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!
My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
are you arguing that if your coworker is a pedophile and downloading underage porn with the help of his cubicle friend at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by your boss because you worked at the same company as the guy as punishment?
No, but that's a great strawman as always.
I dont see the difference
The difference is that as a coworker, I have no control over the idiots in the cubes near me do.
As a guy who ran Penn State football, Joe Paterno could have asked Sandusky to LEAVE! the Penn State football facilities forever.
Try next time, please.
Have to agree with this. That Sandusky still used Penn State facilities after the investigations in the late 90's and McQuery telling Paterno about Sandusky raping a boy in the shower is incredible.
Penn State deserved some punishment for letting this happen, although the extent to which they were penalized is bullshit.
I'm kind of torn in this case. On one hand, the players had nothing to do with any of this, and no NCAA rules were broken. On the other hand, Penn State deserved to be punished.
Penn state can be sued and fined. Just like the Catholic Church. Although banning the church wouldn't be a bad idea (hi Harv!), its not a option.
I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.
Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.
Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!
My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
are you arguing that if your coworker is a pedophile and downloading underage porn with the help of his cubicle friend at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by your boss because you worked at the same company as the guy as punishment?
No, but that's a great strawman as always.
I dont see the difference
The difference is that as a coworker, I have no control over the idiots in the cubes near me do.
As a guy who ran Penn State football, Joe Paterno could have asked Sandusky to LEAVE! the Penn State football facilities forever.
Try next time, please.
Have to agree with this. That Sandusky still used Penn State facilities after the investigations in the late 90's and McQuery telling Paterno about Sandusky raping a boy in the shower is incredible.
Penn State deserved some punishment for letting this happen, although the extent to which they were penalized is bullshit.
I'm kind of torn in this case. On one hand, the players had nothing to do with any of this, and no NCAA rules were broken. On the other hand, Penn State deserved to be punished.
Penn state can be sued and fined. Just like the Catholic Church. Although banning the church wouldn't be a bad idea (hi Harv!), its not a option.
I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.
Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.
Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!
My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
are you arguing that if your coworker is a pedophile and downloading underage porn with the help of his cubicle friend at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by your boss because you worked at the same company as the guy as punishment?
No, but that's a great strawman as always.
I dont see the difference
The difference is that as a coworker, I have no control over the idiots in the cubes near me do.
As a guy who ran Penn State football, Joe Paterno could have asked Sandusky to LEAVE! the Penn State football facilities forever.
Try next time, please.
Oh sorry let me fix it for you;
Are you arguing that if your boss doesnt fire your coworker that is a pedophile and downloading underage porn at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by the board of directors because you worked at the same company as the pedophile?
The punishments that were handed down by Emmert and the NCAA vacate wins and records from players who "have no control over the idiots in the cubes in charge" and punish future players that were in junior high or elementary school during the molestation with restrictions on bowl games, scholarships, and big10 TV money. The icing on the cake is the NCAA punishing tax payers with a 60 million dollar "fine".
I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.
Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.
Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!
My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
are you arguing that if your coworker is a pedophile and downloading underage porn with the help of his cubicle friend at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by your boss because you worked at the same company as the guy as punishment?
No, but that's a great strawman as always.
I dont see the difference
The difference is that as a coworker, I have no control over the idiots in the cubes near me do.
As a guy who ran Penn State football, Joe Paterno could have asked Sandusky to LEAVE! the Penn State football facilities forever.
Try next time, please.
Have to agree with this. That Sandusky still used Penn State facilities after the investigations in the late 90's and McQuery telling Paterno about Sandusky raping a boy in the shower is incredible.
Penn State deserved some punishment for letting this happen, although the extent to which they were penalized is bullshit.
I'm kind of torn in this case. On one hand, the players had nothing to do with any of this, and no NCAA rules were broken. On the other hand, Penn State deserved to be punished.
What does anyone currently at Penn State deserve to be punished for?
Following that logic, no one except maybe some coaches should ever get punished by the NCAA.
I agree, but that's not the NCAA's punishment model.
I wish Emmert would finish destroying this bullshit organization already.
I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.
Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.
Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!
My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
are you arguing that if your coworker is a pedophile and downloading underage porn with the help of his cubicle friend at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by your boss because you worked at the same company as the guy as punishment?
No, but that's a great strawman as always.
I dont see the difference
The difference is that as a coworker, I have no control over the idiots in the cubes near me do.
As a guy who ran Penn State football, Joe Paterno could have asked Sandusky to LEAVE! the Penn State football facilities forever.
Try next time, please.
Have to agree with this. That Sandusky still used Penn State facilities after the investigations in the late 90's and McQuery telling Paterno about Sandusky raping a boy in the shower is incredible.
Penn State deserved some punishment for letting this happen, although the extent to which they were penalized is bullshit.
I'm kind of torn in this case. On one hand, the players had nothing to do with any of this, and no NCAA rules were broken. On the other hand, Penn State deserved to be punished.
What does anyone currently at Penn State deserve to be punished for?
Following that logic, no one except maybe some coaches should ever get punished by the NCAA.
I agree, but that's not the NCAA's punishment model.
I wish Emmert would finish destroying this bullshit organization already.
No one should have been punished by the NCAA. Any punishment should have been through criminal and civil courts. NCAA just had to grandstand. Notice how quickly they moved. What normally takes month they did in days. They had to do it while it was in the news and it was the outrage of the day. The NCAA punished PSU for their own benefit, not to serve any sort of justice.
I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.
Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.
Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!
My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
are you arguing that if your coworker is a pedophile and downloading underage porn with the help of his cubicle friend at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by your boss because you worked at the same company as the guy as punishment?
No, but that's a great strawman as always.
I dont see the difference
The difference is that as a coworker, I have no control over the idiots in the cubes near me do.
As a guy who ran Penn State football, Joe Paterno could have asked Sandusky to LEAVE! the Penn State football facilities forever.
Try next time, please.
Have to agree with this. That Sandusky still used Penn State facilities after the investigations in the late 90's and McQuery telling Paterno about Sandusky raping a boy in the shower is incredible.
Penn State deserved some punishment for letting this happen, although the extent to which they were penalized is bullshit.
I'm kind of torn in this case. On one hand, the players had nothing to do with any of this, and no NCAA rules were broken. On the other hand, Penn State deserved to be punished.
What does anyone currently at Penn State deserve to be punished for?
Following that logic, no one except maybe some coaches should ever get punished by the NCAA.
I agree, but that's not the NCAA's punishment model.
I wish Emmert would finish destroying this bullshit organization already.
I was responding to someone saying "Penn State deserved to be punished" even though they had broken no NCAA rules. I'm not sure how that fits their punishment model of punishing people for breaking NCAA rules. You can buy the lipstick on it if you like but Penn State was a power grab.
I think Penn State got off easy.....but that's just me. How they are allowed to even have athletics as part of the university is baffling to me.
And which children, how many, and where did football playing PSU athletes abuse? Sorry, but the idea that you or anyone would make innocent football players, their fans, and PSU football boosters and alums culpable for the criminally perverse acts against children of one pedophile who deserves to rot away the rest of his worthless life in prison...... is not only unfair and un-American, but almost as perverse as the pedophile's crime itself. I think the "just you" is pulling my tail.
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As a guy who ran Penn State football, Joe Paterno could have asked Sandusky to LEAVE! the Penn State football facilities forever.
Try next time, please.
Penn State deserved some punishment for letting this happen, although the extent to which they were penalized is bullshit.
I'm kind of torn in this case. On one hand, the players had nothing to do with any of this, and no NCAA rules were broken. On the other hand, Penn State deserved to be punished.
Are you arguing that if your boss doesnt fire your coworker that is a pedophile and downloading underage porn at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by the board of directors because you worked at the same company as the pedophile?
The punishments that were handed down by Emmert and the NCAA vacate wins and records from players who "have no control over the idiots
in the cubesin charge" and punish future players that were in junior high or elementary school during the molestation with restrictions on bowl games, scholarships, and big10 TV money. The icing on the cake is the NCAA punishing tax payers with a 60 million dollar "fine".Which NCAA rule did Penn state break?
I agree, but that's not the NCAA's punishment model.
I wish Emmert would finish destroying this bullshit organization already.
disagree