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DerekJohnson
DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,532 Founders Club
Penn State must be looking at Oregon and going WTF??????
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  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    I don't think you should be making light of molested children.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,112 Founders Club
    I never molest the kids
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,313
    I think Penn State got off easy.....but that's just me. How they are allowed to even have athletics as part of the university is baffling to me.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    I never molest the kids

    Only the coaches and refs.
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    The only reason you are saying that is because you are probably a pedophile
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited June 2013
    HuskyJW said:

    I think Penn State got off easy.....but that's just me. How they are allowed to even have athletics as part of the university is baffling to me.

    100% disagree. That as not an athletic issue. It was a criminal issue. Those involved need to personally be held accountable. The school as a whole may be liable as well, but to say the football team can't go to bowl games is absurd. If this happened at a school science camp would the chemistry department be closed down or would the people involved be arrested and or sued?

    Because it was around football it became the outrage of the day and the villagers showed up with pitch forks and demanded blood. Emmert took the easy way out and gave them what they wanted. He did it not so much to punish PSU, but to show the world just how awful the NCAA thinks child abuse is. He also hates war, supports the troops, hates elder abuse, animal abuse and poverty. Profiles in courage material right there.
  • CheersWestDawg
    CheersWestDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,478 Swaye's Wigwam

    HuskyJW said:

    I think Penn State got off easy.....but that's just me. How they are allowed to even have athletics as part of the university is baffling to me.

    100% disagree. That as not an athletic issue. It was a criminal issue. Those involved need to personally be held accountable. The school as a whole may be liable as well, but to say the football team can't go to bowl games is absurd. If this happened at a school science camp would the chemistry department be closed down or would the people involved be arrested and or sued?

    Because it was around football it became the outrage of the day and the villagers showed up with pitch forks and demanded blood. Emmert took the easy way out and gave them what they wanted. He did it not so much to punish PSU, but to show the world just how awful the NCAA thinks child abuse is. He also hates war, supports the troops, hates elder abuse, animal abuse and poverty. Profiles in courage material right there.
    One of the better poasts I have seen on the interwebs. Congrats.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,112 Founders Club

    HuskyJW said:

    I think Penn State got off easy.....but that's just me. How they are allowed to even have athletics as part of the university is baffling to me.

    100% disagree. That as not an athletic issue. It was a criminal issue. Those involved need to personally be held accountable. The school as a whole may be liable as well, but to say the football team can't go to bowl games is absurd. If this happened at a school science camp would the chemistry department be closed down or would the people involved be arrested and or sued?

    Because it was around football it became the outrage of the day and the villagers showed up with pitch forks and demanded blood. Emmert took the easy way out and gave them what they wanted. He did it not so much to punish PSU, but to show the world just how awful the NCAA thinks child abuse is. He also hates war, supports the troops, hates elder abuse, animal abuse and poverty. Profiles in courage material right there.
    One of the better poasts I have seen on the interwebs. Congrats.
    I always enjoy his posts
  • HarveyRoad
    HarveyRoad Member Posts: 121

    Penn State must be looking at Oregon and going WTF??????

    MODS! Implied molestation posts should be deleted.

  • CheersWestDawg
    CheersWestDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,478 Swaye's Wigwam

    HuskyJW said:

    I think Penn State got off easy.....but that's just me. How they are allowed to even have athletics as part of the university is baffling to me.

    100% disagree. That as not an athletic issue. It was a criminal issue. Those involved need to personally be held accountable. The school as a whole may be liable as well, but to say the football team can't go to bowl games is absurd. If this happened at a school science camp would the chemistry department be closed down or would the people involved be arrested and or sued?

    Because it was around football it became the outrage of the day and the villagers showed up with pitch forks and demanded blood. Emmert took the easy way out and gave them what they wanted. He did it not so much to punish PSU, but to show the world just how awful the NCAA thinks child abuse is. He also hates war, supports the troops, hates elder abuse, animal abuse and poverty. Profiles in courage material right there.
    One of the better poasts I have seen on the interwebs. Congrats.
    I always enjoy his posts
    Don't sell yourself short Race. Yours are always classy.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,112 Founders Club

    HuskyJW said:

    I think Penn State got off easy.....but that's just me. How they are allowed to even have athletics as part of the university is baffling to me.

    100% disagree. That as not an athletic issue. It was a criminal issue. Those involved need to personally be held accountable. The school as a whole may be liable as well, but to say the football team can't go to bowl games is absurd. If this happened at a school science camp would the chemistry department be closed down or would the people involved be arrested and or sued?

    Because it was around football it became the outrage of the day and the villagers showed up with pitch forks and demanded blood. Emmert took the easy way out and gave them what they wanted. He did it not so much to punish PSU, but to show the world just how awful the NCAA thinks child abuse is. He also hates war, supports the troops, hates elder abuse, animal abuse and poverty. Profiles in courage material right there.
    One of the better poasts I have seen on the interwebs. Congrats.
    I always enjoy his posts
    Don't sell yourself short Race. Yours are always classy.
    Thanks I have always thought of you as one of the classy posters here too
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,313
    I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.
  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194
    edited June 2013

    HuskyJW said:

    I think Penn State got off easy.....but that's just me. How they are allowed to even have athletics as part of the university is baffling to me.

    100% disagree. That as not an athletic issue. It was a criminal issue. Those involved need to personally be held accountable. The school as a whole may be liable as well, but to say the football team can't go to bowl games is absurd. If this happened at a school science camp would the chemistry department be closed down or would the people involved be arrested and or sued?

    Because it was around football it became the outrage of the day and the villagers showed up with pitch forks and demanded blood. Emmert took the easy way out and gave them what they wanted. He did it not so much to punish PSU, but to show the world just how awful the NCAA thinks child abuse is. He also hates war, supports the troops, hates elder abuse, animal abuse and poverty. Profiles in courage material right there.
    Is this a chemistry department recruiting event? Did the dean of the department try to cover it up?
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,532 Founders Club

    HuskyJW said:

    I think Penn State got off easy.....but that's just me. How they are allowed to even have athletics as part of the university is baffling to me.

    100% disagree. That as not an athletic issue. It was a criminal issue. Those involved need to personally be held accountable. The school as a whole may be liable as well, but to say the football team can't go to bowl games is absurd. If this happened at a school science camp would the chemistry department be closed down or would the people involved be arrested and or sued?

    Because it was around football it became the outrage of the day and the villagers showed up with pitch forks and demanded blood. Emmert took the easy way out and gave them what they wanted. He did it not so much to punish PSU, but to show the world just how awful the NCAA thinks child abuse is. He also hates war, supports the troops, hates elder abuse, animal abuse and poverty. Profiles in courage material right there.
    That is an absolutely perfect summation.
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    HuskyJW said:

    I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.

    Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.

    Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!

    My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Houhusky said:

    HuskyJW said:

    I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.

    Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.

    Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!

    My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
    When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Houhusky said:

    HuskyJW said:

    I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.

    Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.

    Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!

    My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
    When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
    Why? If a coach murdered someone in the locker room and another coach covered it up should the team get a bowl ban? Or maybe just send those people to prision.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,532 Founders Club

    Houhusky said:

    HuskyJW said:

    I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.

    Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.

    Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!

    My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
    When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
    Why? If a coach murdered someone in the locker room and another coach covered it up should the team get a bowl ban? Or maybe just send those people to prision.
    That would make a great screenplay. Or "Made up Movie"...
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    Houhusky said:

    HuskyJW said:

    I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.

    Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.

    Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!

    My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
    When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
    Wow. Just wow.
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537

    Houhusky said:

    HuskyJW said:

    I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.

    Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.

    Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!

    My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
    When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
    are you arguing that if your coworker is a pedophile and downloading underage porn with the help of his cubicle friend at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by your boss because you worked at the same company as the guy as punishment?
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HuskyJW said:

    I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.

    Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.

    Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!

    My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
    When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
    are you arguing that if your coworker is a pedophile and downloading underage porn with the help of his cubicle friend at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by your boss because you worked at the same company as the guy as punishment?
    No, but that's a great strawman as always.
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HuskyJW said:

    I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.

    Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.

    Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!

    My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
    When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
    are you arguing that if your coworker is a pedophile and downloading underage porn with the help of his cubicle friend at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by your boss because you worked at the same company as the guy as punishment?
    No, but that's a great strawman as always.
    I dont see the difference
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HuskyJW said:

    I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.

    Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.

    Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!

    My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
    When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
    are you arguing that if your coworker is a pedophile and downloading underage porn with the help of his cubicle friend at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by your boss because you worked at the same company as the guy as punishment?
    No, but that's a great strawman as always.
    I dont see the difference
    The difference is that as a coworker, I have no control over the idiots in the cubes near me do.

    As a guy who ran Penn State football, Joe Paterno could have asked Sandusky to LEAVE! the Penn State football facilities forever.

    Try next time, please.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,147
    edited June 2013

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HuskyJW said:

    I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.

    Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.

    Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!

    My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
    When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
    are you arguing that if your coworker is a pedophile and downloading underage porn with the help of his cubicle friend at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by your boss because you worked at the same company as the guy as punishment?
    No, but that's a great strawman as always.
    I dont see the difference
    The difference is that as a coworker, I have no control over the idiots in the cubes near me do.

    As a guy who ran Penn State football, Joe Paterno could have asked Sandusky to LEAVE! the Penn State football facilities forever.

    Try next time, please.
    Have to agree with this. That Sandusky still used Penn State facilities after the investigations in the late 90's and McQuery telling Paterno about Sandusky raping a boy in the shower is incredible.

    Penn State deserved some punishment for letting this happen, although the extent to which they were penalized is bullshit.

    I'm kind of torn in this case. On one hand, the players had nothing to do with any of this, and no NCAA rules were broken. On the other hand, Penn State deserved to be punished.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HuskyJW said:

    I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.

    Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.

    Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!

    My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
    When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
    are you arguing that if your coworker is a pedophile and downloading underage porn with the help of his cubicle friend at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by your boss because you worked at the same company as the guy as punishment?
    No, but that's a great strawman as always.
    I dont see the difference
    The difference is that as a coworker, I have no control over the idiots in the cubes near me do.

    As a guy who ran Penn State football, Joe Paterno could have asked Sandusky to LEAVE! the Penn State football facilities forever.

    Try next time, please.
    Have to agree with this. That Sandusky still used Penn State facilities after the investigations in the late 90's and McQuery telling Paterno about Sandusky raping a boy in the shower is incredible.

    Penn State deserved some punishment for letting this happen, although the extent to which they were penalized is bullshit.

    I'm kind of torn in this case. On one hand, the players had nothing to do with any of this, and no NCAA rules were broken. On the other hand, Penn State deserved to be punished.
    What does anyone currently at Penn State deserve to be punished for?
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited June 2013

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HuskyJW said:

    I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.

    Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.

    Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!

    My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
    When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
    are you arguing that if your coworker is a pedophile and downloading underage porn with the help of his cubicle friend at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by your boss because you worked at the same company as the guy as punishment?
    No, but that's a great strawman as always.
    I dont see the difference
    The difference is that as a coworker, I have no control over the idiots in the cubes near me do.

    As a guy who ran Penn State football, Joe Paterno could have asked Sandusky to LEAVE! the Penn State football facilities forever.

    Try next time, please.
    Have to agree with this. That Sandusky still used Penn State facilities after the investigations in the late 90's and McQuery telling Paterno about Sandusky raping a boy in the shower is incredible.

    Penn State deserved some punishment for letting this happen, although the extent to which they were penalized is bullshit.

    I'm kind of torn in this case. On one hand, the players had nothing to do with any of this, and no NCAA rules were broken. On the other hand, Penn State deserved to be punished.
    Penn state can be sued and fined. Just like the Catholic Church. Although banning the church wouldn't be a bad idea (hi Harv!), its not a option.
  • HarveyRoad
    HarveyRoad Member Posts: 121

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HuskyJW said:

    I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.

    Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.

    Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!

    My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
    When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
    are you arguing that if your coworker is a pedophile and downloading underage porn with the help of his cubicle friend at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by your boss because you worked at the same company as the guy as punishment?
    No, but that's a great strawman as always.
    I dont see the difference
    The difference is that as a coworker, I have no control over the idiots in the cubes near me do.

    As a guy who ran Penn State football, Joe Paterno could have asked Sandusky to LEAVE! the Penn State football facilities forever.

    Try next time, please.
    Have to agree with this. That Sandusky still used Penn State facilities after the investigations in the late 90's and McQuery telling Paterno about Sandusky raping a boy in the shower is incredible.

    Penn State deserved some punishment for letting this happen, although the extent to which they were penalized is bullshit.

    I'm kind of torn in this case. On one hand, the players had nothing to do with any of this, and no NCAA rules were broken. On the other hand, Penn State deserved to be punished.
    Penn state can be sued and fined. Just like the Catholic Church. Although banning the church wouldn't be a bad idea (hi Harv!), its not a option.
    The Church is on the way to banning itself.
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    edited June 2013

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HuskyJW said:

    I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.

    Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.

    Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!

    My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
    When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
    are you arguing that if your coworker is a pedophile and downloading underage porn with the help of his cubicle friend at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by your boss because you worked at the same company as the guy as punishment?
    No, but that's a great strawman as always.
    I dont see the difference
    The difference is that as a coworker, I have no control over the idiots in the cubes near me do.

    As a guy who ran Penn State football, Joe Paterno could have asked Sandusky to LEAVE! the Penn State football facilities forever.

    Try next time, please.
    Oh sorry let me fix it for you;

    Are you arguing that if your boss doesnt fire your coworker that is a pedophile and downloading underage porn at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by the board of directors because you worked at the same company as the pedophile?

    The punishments that were handed down by Emmert and the NCAA vacate wins and records from players who "have no control over the idiots in the cubes in charge" and punish future players that were in junior high or elementary school during the molestation with restrictions on bowl games, scholarships, and big10 TV money. The icing on the cake is the NCAA punishing tax payers with a 60 million dollar "fine".

    Which NCAA rule did Penn state break?
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HuskyJW said:

    I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.

    Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.

    Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!

    My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
    When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
    are you arguing that if your coworker is a pedophile and downloading underage porn with the help of his cubicle friend at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by your boss because you worked at the same company as the guy as punishment?
    No, but that's a great strawman as always.
    I dont see the difference
    The difference is that as a coworker, I have no control over the idiots in the cubes near me do.

    As a guy who ran Penn State football, Joe Paterno could have asked Sandusky to LEAVE! the Penn State football facilities forever.

    Try next time, please.
    Have to agree with this. That Sandusky still used Penn State facilities after the investigations in the late 90's and McQuery telling Paterno about Sandusky raping a boy in the shower is incredible.

    Penn State deserved some punishment for letting this happen, although the extent to which they were penalized is bullshit.

    I'm kind of torn in this case. On one hand, the players had nothing to do with any of this, and no NCAA rules were broken. On the other hand, Penn State deserved to be punished.
    What does anyone currently at Penn State deserve to be punished for?
    Following that logic, no one except maybe some coaches should ever get punished by the NCAA.

    I agree, but that's not the NCAA's punishment model.

    I wish Emmert would finish destroying this bullshit organization already.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    Houhusky said:

    HuskyJW said:

    I understand the criminal issue....and I get what Damone is saying. My issue was the coverup and the overall lack of morality that went through the football coaches and athletic department. Once people knew about it and did nothing....they shouldn't have had the privilege to continue.

    Its not the NCAAs job to enforce federal laws. they overstepped their jurisdiction, regulate sports that is their only job.

    Fuck morality, if they broke the law then prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, if they didnt then STFU and LEAVE!

    My favorite fucktarded logic was the need for a lawsuit... The taxpayers paid for a prosecutor to file a suit against a public university which they fund.
    When the sex abuse involves the sports facilities of a member institution of the NCAA and the support of active NCAA coaches, they have the right to get involved.
    are you arguing that if your coworker is a pedophile and downloading underage porn with the help of his cubicle friend at a company you work at that you should have your pay docked or vacation days removed by your boss because you worked at the same company as the guy as punishment?
    No, but that's a great strawman as always.
    I dont see the difference
    The difference is that as a coworker, I have no control over the idiots in the cubes near me do.

    As a guy who ran Penn State football, Joe Paterno could have asked Sandusky to LEAVE! the Penn State football facilities forever.

    Try next time, please.
    Have to agree with this. That Sandusky still used Penn State facilities after the investigations in the late 90's and McQuery telling Paterno about Sandusky raping a boy in the shower is incredible.

    Penn State deserved some punishment for letting this happen, although the extent to which they were penalized is bullshit.

    I'm kind of torn in this case. On one hand, the players had nothing to do with any of this, and no NCAA rules were broken. On the other hand, Penn State deserved to be punished.
    What does anyone currently at Penn State deserve to be punished for?
    Following that logic, no one except maybe some coaches should ever get punished by the NCAA.

    I agree, but that's not the NCAA's punishment model.

    I wish Emmert would finish destroying this bullshit organization already.
    No one should have been punished by the NCAA. Any punishment should have been through criminal and civil courts. NCAA just had to grandstand. Notice how quickly they moved. What normally takes month they did in days. They had to do it while it was in the news and it was the outrage of the day. The NCAA punished PSU for their own benefit, not to serve any sort of justice.