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Guns are banned in areas where you serve alcohol...BANNED!
https://www.koin.com/news/national/authorities-multiple-injuries-at-shooting-in-california-bar/1580511738
https://www.koin.com/news/national/authorities-multiple-injuries-at-shooting-in-california-bar/1580511738
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Obvious signage issues are obvious
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The election is over. Stand down
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Which states allow guns in bars?HuskyJW said:Guns are banned in areas where you serve alcohol...BANNED!
https://www.koin.com/news/national/authorities-multiple-injuries-at-shooting-in-california-bar/1580511738
Among U.S. states, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Idaho (residents only), Kansas, Maine, Mississippi, Missouri, New Hampshire, North Dakota (residents only; concealed carry only), Vermont, West Virginia and Wyoming (residents only) are fully unrestricted, and allow those who are not prohibited from owning a firearm to ...
Concealed carry in the United States - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concealed_carry_in_the_United_States
Don't fuck with people in Idaho, Wyoming or Alaska.
Kind of surprised Montana isn't on that list. Though they've kind of turned into bleeding vaginas with the influx of the nouveau riche and burger stand operators.
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On a rare serious note - there were survivors of the Las Vegas shooting in the bar
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I'm thinking there will end up being about 2 million survivors of the Las Vegas shooting....RaceBannon said:On a rare serious note - there were survivors of the Las Vegas shooting in the bar
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I'm just glad that California has strict gun laws and controls to prevent these kinds of things from happening.
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MeToo#HuskyJW said:
I'm thinking there will end up being about 2 million survivors of the Las Vegas shooting....RaceBannon said:On a rare serious note - there were survivors of the Las Vegas shooting in the bar
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The perpetrator is evil not the inanimate object. Making shit illegal doesn't help.
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There's a fine line. There's no reason a mentally incompetent person should own semi-automatic weapons, for example. The only caveat there is that you're depending on the integrity of those with the power to determine mental competence from not politicizing the whole thing.Sledog said:The perpetrator is evil not the inanimate object. Making shit illegal doesn't help.
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As usual, the government fucked themselves. This time with HIPPA.DerekJohnson said:
There's a fine line. There's no reason a mentally incompetent person should own semi-automatic weapons, for example. The only caveat there is that you're depending on the integrity of those with the power to determine mental competence from not politicizing the whole thing.Sledog said:The perpetrator is evil not the inanimate object. Making shit illegal doesn't help.
I think murder is illegal already. HTH -
This guy was checked by a PET team sometime prior and they thought he wasn't a danger to anyone and didn't commit him. Again a failure in the system.DerekJohnson said:
There's a fine line. There's no reason a mentally incompetent person should own semi-automatic weapons, for example. The only caveat there is that you're depending on the integrity of those with the power to determine mental competence from not politicizing the whole thing.Sledog said:The perpetrator is evil not the inanimate object. Making shit illegal doesn't help.
I think murder is illegal already. HTH -
And sometimes a person's condition worsens over time.Sledog said:
This guy was checked by a PET team sometime prior and they thought he wasn't a danger to anyone and didn't commit him. Again a failure in the system.DerekJohnson said:
There's a fine line. There's no reason a mentally incompetent person should own semi-automatic weapons, for example. The only caveat there is that you're depending on the integrity of those with the power to determine mental competence from not politicizing the whole thing.Sledog said:The perpetrator is evil not the inanimate object. Making shit illegal doesn't help.
I think murder is illegal already. HTH
Blaming "the system" is pretty convenient. And meaningless. And useless.
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We should have put him on the school to prison pipeline system rather than the ignore the nut system.TurdBuffer said:
And sometimes a person's condition worsens over time.Sledog said:
This guy was checked by a PET team sometime prior and they thought he wasn't a danger to anyone and didn't commit him. Again a failure in the system.DerekJohnson said:
There's a fine line. There's no reason a mentally incompetent person should own semi-automatic weapons, for example. The only caveat there is that you're depending on the integrity of those with the power to determine mental competence from not politicizing the whole thing.Sledog said:The perpetrator is evil not the inanimate object. Making shit illegal doesn't help.
I think murder is illegal already. HTH
Blaming "the system" is pretty convenient. And meaningless. And useless. -
The system is broken we have 5% off the psychiatric hospital beds we had in the 60's. You just can't house them all. 1 in 10 people on the street are mentally disturbed enough to be a danger to others. Add up your local population. The numbers are pretty crazy.TurdBuffer said:
And sometimes a person's condition worsens over time.Sledog said:
This guy was checked by a PET team sometime prior and they thought he wasn't a danger to anyone and didn't commit him. Again a failure in the system.DerekJohnson said:
There's a fine line. There's no reason a mentally incompetent person should own semi-automatic weapons, for example. The only caveat there is that you're depending on the integrity of those with the power to determine mental competence from not politicizing the whole thing.Sledog said:The perpetrator is evil not the inanimate object. Making shit illegal doesn't help.
I think murder is illegal already. HTH
Blaming "the system" is pretty convenient. And meaningless. And useless.
Might as well blame toxic masculinity or the patriarchy. -
Most of those changes happened under Reagan. Just to remind you.Sledog said:
The system is broken we have 5% off the psychiatric hospital beds we had in the 60's. You just can't house them all. 1 in 10 people on the street are mentally disturbed enough to be a danger to others. Add up your local population. The numbers are pretty crazy.TurdBuffer said:
And sometimes a person's condition worsens over time.Sledog said:
This guy was checked by a PET team sometime prior and they thought he wasn't a danger to anyone and didn't commit him. Again a failure in the system.DerekJohnson said:
There's a fine line. There's no reason a mentally incompetent person should own semi-automatic weapons, for example. The only caveat there is that you're depending on the integrity of those with the power to determine mental competence from not politicizing the whole thing.Sledog said:The perpetrator is evil not the inanimate object. Making shit illegal doesn't help.
I think murder is illegal already. HTH
Blaming "the system" is pretty convenient. And meaningless. And useless.
Might as well blame toxic masculinity or the patriarchy. -
It's 2018. I think we can move past that and find a solutionTurdBuffer said:
Most of those changes happened under Reagan. Just to remind you.Sledog said:
The system is broken we have 5% off the psychiatric hospital beds we had in the 60's. You just can't house them all. 1 in 10 people on the street are mentally disturbed enough to be a danger to others. Add up your local population. The numbers are pretty crazy.TurdBuffer said:
And sometimes a person's condition worsens over time.Sledog said:
This guy was checked by a PET team sometime prior and they thought he wasn't a danger to anyone and didn't commit him. Again a failure in the system.DerekJohnson said:
There's a fine line. There's no reason a mentally incompetent person should own semi-automatic weapons, for example. The only caveat there is that you're depending on the integrity of those with the power to determine mental competence from not politicizing the whole thing.Sledog said:The perpetrator is evil not the inanimate object. Making shit illegal doesn't help.
I think murder is illegal already. HTH
Blaming "the system" is pretty convenient. And meaningless. And useless.
Might as well blame toxic masculinity or the patriarchy.
He won't mind. He's dead. And was shot by a crazy person ironically enough
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And in 30 years no one could figure out how to fix the supposed Reagan atrocities? Where they made into constitutional amendments or something? 5 presidents and 30 congresses and all that can be done is throw up our hands and say “well, Reagan, what can you do?”TurdBuffer said:
Most of those changes happened under Reagan. Just to remind you.Sledog said:
The system is broken we have 5% off the psychiatric hospital beds we had in the 60's. You just can't house them all. 1 in 10 people on the street are mentally disturbed enough to be a danger to others. Add up your local population. The numbers are pretty crazy.TurdBuffer said:
And sometimes a person's condition worsens over time.Sledog said:
This guy was checked by a PET team sometime prior and they thought he wasn't a danger to anyone and didn't commit him. Again a failure in the system.DerekJohnson said:
There's a fine line. There's no reason a mentally incompetent person should own semi-automatic weapons, for example. The only caveat there is that you're depending on the integrity of those with the power to determine mental competence from not politicizing the whole thing.Sledog said:The perpetrator is evil not the inanimate object. Making shit illegal doesn't help.
I think murder is illegal already. HTH
Blaming "the system" is pretty convenient. And meaningless. And useless.
Might as well blame toxic masculinity or the patriarchy. -
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I’m also hearing the poor are forever fucked because of Reaganomics and “trickle down “ and shit.RaceBannon said:First
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I hold Jody Foster responsible for that one.RaceBannon said:
It's 2018. I think we can move past that and find a solutionTurdBuffer said:
Most of those changes happened under Reagan. Just to remind you.Sledog said:
The system is broken we have 5% off the psychiatric hospital beds we had in the 60's. You just can't house them all. 1 in 10 people on the street are mentally disturbed enough to be a danger to others. Add up your local population. The numbers are pretty crazy.TurdBuffer said:
And sometimes a person's condition worsens over time.Sledog said:
This guy was checked by a PET team sometime prior and they thought he wasn't a danger to anyone and didn't commit him. Again a failure in the system.DerekJohnson said:
There's a fine line. There's no reason a mentally incompetent person should own semi-automatic weapons, for example. The only caveat there is that you're depending on the integrity of those with the power to determine mental competence from not politicizing the whole thing.Sledog said:The perpetrator is evil not the inanimate object. Making shit illegal doesn't help.
I think murder is illegal already. HTH
Blaming "the system" is pretty convenient. And meaningless. And useless.
Might as well blame toxic masculinity or the patriarchy.
He won't mind. He's dead. And was shot by a crazy person ironically enough
Let's stop catch and release on crazies.
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Most of those changes were courts saying you can't keep those people.TurdBuffer said:
Most of those changes happened under Reagan. Just to remind you.Sledog said:
The system is broken we have 5% off the psychiatric hospital beds we had in the 60's. You just can't house them all. 1 in 10 people on the street are mentally disturbed enough to be a danger to others. Add up your local population. The numbers are pretty crazy.TurdBuffer said:
And sometimes a person's condition worsens over time.Sledog said:
This guy was checked by a PET team sometime prior and they thought he wasn't a danger to anyone and didn't commit him. Again a failure in the system.DerekJohnson said:
There's a fine line. There's no reason a mentally incompetent person should own semi-automatic weapons, for example. The only caveat there is that you're depending on the integrity of those with the power to determine mental competence from not politicizing the whole thing.Sledog said:The perpetrator is evil not the inanimate object. Making shit illegal doesn't help.
I think murder is illegal already. HTH
Blaming "the system" is pretty convenient. And meaningless. And useless.
Might as well blame toxic masculinity or the patriarchy. -
No, Sleddy, it was Reagan and his first Congress.Sledog said:
Most of those changes were courts saying you can't keep those people.TurdBuffer said:
Most of those changes happened under Reagan. Just to remind you.Sledog said:
The system is broken we have 5% off the psychiatric hospital beds we had in the 60's. You just can't house them all. 1 in 10 people on the street are mentally disturbed enough to be a danger to others. Add up your local population. The numbers are pretty crazy.TurdBuffer said:
And sometimes a person's condition worsens over time.Sledog said:
This guy was checked by a PET team sometime prior and they thought he wasn't a danger to anyone and didn't commit him. Again a failure in the system.DerekJohnson said:
There's a fine line. There's no reason a mentally incompetent person should own semi-automatic weapons, for example. The only caveat there is that you're depending on the integrity of those with the power to determine mental competence from not politicizing the whole thing.Sledog said:The perpetrator is evil not the inanimate object. Making shit illegal doesn't help.
I think murder is illegal already. HTH
Blaming "the system" is pretty convenient. And meaningless. And useless.
Might as well blame toxic masculinity or the patriarchy.
Big positive changes in mental health treatment occurred during the 1970's culminating in the Mental Health Systems Act of 1980, sponsored by Ted Kennedy and signed into law by Prez Carter. Then almost entirely repealed under Reagan's Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1981. -
Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1981 Superiority Guy
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I doubt one year changed a damn thing. They don't keep people locked up in mental hospitals like they used to. Hence the closure of large mental institutions such as Camarillo state hospital in Kali. So big it's now a college. There is no where to put them and standards for keeping loonies have changed dramatically.BennyBeaver said:Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1981 Superiority Guy
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It took you a day to come up with that?BennyBeaver said:Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1981 Superiority Guy
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That's all true, but the cynicism of the Reagan era repeals designed to supposedly "free" those from state institutions unless they were a danger to themselves or others was pretty Goddamn deceitful and cynical. That standard was and is wholly irrelevant to the issue of whether such people actually possessed the skills and faculties to survive and have a meaningful safe life outside the institutions. The homeless situation exploded in Seattle almost overnight in 1982.Sledog said:
I doubt one year changed a damn thing. They don't keep people locked up in mental hospitals like they used to. Hence the closure of large mental institutions such as Camarillo state hospital in Kali. So big it's now a college. There is no where to put them and standards for keeping loonies have changed dramatically.BennyBeaver said:Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1981 Superiority Guy
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I agree. Today the real standard is danger to themselves or others alone. And even then they often just toss drugs in them and put them back on the street.TurdBuffer said:
That's all true, but the cynicism of the Reagan era repeals designed to supposedly "free" those from state institutions unless they were a danger to themselves or others was pretty Goddamn deceitful and cynical. That standard was and is wholly irrelevant to the issue of whether such people actually possessed the skills and faculties to survive and have a meaningful safe life outside the institutions. The homeless situation exploded in Seattle almost overnight in 1982.Sledog said:
I doubt one year changed a damn thing. They don't keep people locked up in mental hospitals like they used to. Hence the closure of large mental institutions such as Camarillo state hospital in Kali. So big it's now a college. There is no where to put them and standards for keeping loonies have changed dramatically.BennyBeaver said:Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1981 Superiority Guy
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NoTurdBuffer said:
It took you a day to come up with that?BennyBeaver said:Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1981 Superiority Guy
