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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    Herbs has the physical tools, he needs to learn how to put touch on the ball and see the field. He's still really raw, which makes sense considering that he's mostly been coached by Willie Lyles-Taggart (HC starting in December of his true freshman year through December of his true soph year) and 3/4 of a year by Marcus Arroyo, who, well, is unproven at best as a QB coach.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,273
    edited November 2018

    Better than Browning

    OK


    Low bar imo

    He's actually not better than Browning. That's ridiculous.

    He's far more physically capable and has a chance to play in the NFL.

    But as a college QB, Browning has delivered more. Yes, he's a front runner, yes, he's a douche, but he's more reliable.

    There is one thing Herbert does better than Browning other than make throws Browning physically can't make: he doesn't shit himself in the backfield. Though doesn't have great pocket feel yet, he's it's infinitely better than Browning and knows when to take a sack and let it be a 6 or 7 yard loss rather than a 25 yard loss or make stupid throw off his back foot (hello Malik) and beg for a pick. That is one area of their play where Herbert is clearly better. Jake just makes stupid decisions under pressure, where Herbert tends to show more poise and just lets a shitty down be a shitty down w/o turning it into a disaster ... at least as often as Browning tends to.

    But in terms of settling into a system and doing mostly what you're supposed to do, Browning is the better QB. Herbert, as Mosster said, has not had an ideal upbringing at Oregon given the turmoil. The kid is a beast though. Physically everything Browning wishes he were.
  • DawgWagonDan
    DawgWagonDan Member Posts: 789
    Bobby Herbert is a GOOD college quarterback. And a heart warming sinderella story from the big easy... everyone respects THE CAJUN CANON!
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,435 Founders Club

    Better than Browning

    OK


    Low bar imo

    He's actually not better than Browning. That's ridiculous.

    He's far more physically capable and has a chance to play in the NFL.

    But as a college QB, Browning has delivered more. Yes, he's a front runner, yes, he's a douche, but he's more reliable.

    There is one thing Herbert does better than Browning other than make throws Browning physically can't make: he doesn't shit himself in the backfield. Though doesn't have great pocket feel yet, he's it's infinitely better than Browning and knows when to take a sack and let it be a 6 or 7 yard loss rather than a 25 yard loss or make stupid throw off his back foot (hello Malik) and beg for a pick. That is one area of their play where Herbert is clearly better. Jake just makes stupid decisions under pressure, where Herbert tends to show more poise and just lets a shitty down be a shitty down w/o turning it into a disaster ... at least as often as Browning tends to.

    But in terms of settling into a system and doing mostly what you're supposed to do, Browning is the better QB. Herbert, as Mosster said, has not had an ideal upbringing at Oregon given the turmoil. The kid is a beast though. Physically everything Browning wishes he were.
    Herbert looks great against shit teams too or he did until Arizona

    Both build their legend on a foundation of sand
  • ramenduck
    ramenduck Member Posts: 734
    edited November 2018
    Mosster47 said:

    Completely overrated, but doesn’t suck. He has one receiver that can catch and get open. Great QBs can get it done with anybody, so Herbert isn’t great, but he could be good with help around him which makes him average.


    He’s terrible dude. He’s terrible.

    Lockie and prukup were terrible. Herbert ain’t that bad. He’s browning without the boneheaded plays.
    Plus elite size, arm, and much better scrambling ability.
    He throws as beautful of a ball as I've ever seen. Even moreso when it's actually to someone.
  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804
    AZDuck said:

    Herbs has the physical tools, he needs to learn how to put touch on the ball and see the field. He's still really raw, which makes sense considering that he's mostly been coached by Willie Lyles-Taggart (HC starting in December of his true freshman year through December of his true soph year) and 3/4 of a year by Marcus Arroyo, who, well, is unproven at best as a QB coach.

    But how are quooks living the 2010 doog narrative to a T?
  • MikeSeaver
    MikeSeaver Member Posts: 5,800

    AZDuck said:

    Herbs has the physical tools, he needs to learn how to put touch on the ball and see the field. He's still really raw, which makes sense considering that he's mostly been coached by Willie Lyles-Taggart (HC starting in December of his true freshman year through December of his true soph year) and 3/4 of a year by Marcus Arroyo, who, well, is unproven at best as a QB coach.

    But how are quooks living the 2010 doog narrative to a T?
    Hope you’re enjoying being the early 2000’s, Ducks.

    Seems like you all are.

  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    Herbs >>>>>>>>>>>>> Lockner
  • Fenwick
    Fenwick Member Posts: 1,174
    Don't believe Crystalball's system fits Herbert.