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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    SFGbob said:

    One of the reoccurring criticisms that I see from the left over the past few years is that many Republican voters vote contrary to their "interests." Besides the fact that it's a very Marxian way to view the world I've always found the logic of this criticism to be very interesting.

    In a thread below Hondo compared "metaphorically" young black leaders who support Trump to voters who are on Food Stamps voting for Republicans as an example of people who vote against their own "interests." Which immediately makes me think that in Hondo and other leftists minds they obviously believe that there is a certain way that blacks and poor people should vote. Pretty obvious that Hondo votes for Rats, so using his own logic can we surmise that he is on welfare or Food Stamps and or believes that the government should provide him with healthcare therefore, he votes accordingly in his own interests?

    What about if you're on Food Stamps but you realize that it's a program that kills imitative and keeps people in poverty. Would you still be voting against your "interests" if you voted for Republicans? And how exactly is it that when blacks support Republicans they are "metaphorically" voting against their interests? Are people's "interests" shaped solely by their skin color or their pocketbook?

    I'm fascinated on how white liberals are so sure they know what's in the "interests" of black voters and or poor voters.

    Your assumption that people on food stamps have no initiative is based on what exactly? Absolutely nothing. Cuz you made it up. If you’re too cold hearted to help a mother feed her kids, you’re a trash human. You ever volunteer at a food bank, Bob? You ever bother talking to those folks and learning anything about them? Because I have. And I can say with 100% certainty that you have no fucking clue what you’re talking about. As usual.
    Bobby thinks everyone on food stamps is fat, lazy do nothing bums smoking a cigarette on their Obama phone.

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    That being said Bob. Congress has been controlled by Republicans for the better part of 8 years and controlled everything the last 2. What bills has been put forth by Republicans that has helped the black community or poor people?

    And don't go saying the tax cut. We all know that primarily went to the wealthy business owning class and the majority of that money went to stock buybacks. And for the $30 bucks a month the average poor person made, gas and inflation has easily covered that.

    So answer the question. With specific examples.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited October 2018
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    One of the reoccurring criticisms that I see from the left over the past few years is that many Republican voters vote contrary to their "interests." Besides the fact that it's a very Marxian way to view the world I've always found the logic of this criticism to be very interesting.

    In a thread below Hondo compared "metaphorically" young black leaders who support Trump to voters who are on Food Stamps voting for Republicans as an example of people who vote against their own "interests." Which immediately makes me think that in Hondo and other leftists minds they obviously believe that there is a certain way that blacks and poor people should vote. Pretty obvious that Hondo votes for Rats, so using his own logic can we surmise that he is on welfare or Food Stamps and or believes that the government should provide him with healthcare therefore, he votes accordingly in his own interests?

    What about if you're on Food Stamps but you realize that it's a program that kills imitative and keeps people in poverty. Would you still be voting against your "interests" if you voted for Republicans? And how exactly is it that when blacks support Republicans they are "metaphorically" voting against their interests? Are people's "interests" shaped solely by their skin color or their pocketbook?

    I'm fascinated on how white liberals are so sure they know what's in the "interests" of black voters and or poor voters.

    Your assumption that people on food stamps have no initiative is based on what exactly? Absolutely nothing. Cuz you made it up. If you’re too cold hearted to help a mother feed her kids, you’re a trash human. You ever volunteer at a food bank, Bob? You ever bother talking to those folks and learning anything about them? Because I have. And I can say with 100% certainty that you have no fucking clue what you’re talking about. As usual.
    Bobby thinks everyone on food stamps is fat, lazy do nothing bums smoking a cigarette on their Obama phone.

    photo CDE3DF7D-BCB6-4D3E-BC54-F10A4A124DFE_zpsourkgvqe.png

    photo 574A8943-BE31-4BF6-8F18-A670E14863D2_zps6grofwmh.png

    That being said Bob. Congress has been controlled by Republicans for the better part of 8 years and controlled everything the last 2. What bills has been put forth by Republicans that has helped the black community or poor people?

    And don't go saying the tax cut. We all know that primarily went to the wealthy business owning class and the majority of that money went to stock buybacks. And for the $30 bucks a month the average poor person made, gas and inflation has easily covered that.

    So answer the question. With specific examples.
    “The black community”. Speaks volumes. They aren’t individuals. They are a group. All alike.

    What law would you propose that would help the “black community “?

    Getting the fuck out of the way and allowing the market to employee people is the only correct answer. The government doesn’t have to do anything.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Controllable, containable
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    One of the reoccurring criticisms that I see from the left over the past few years is that many Republican voters vote contrary to their "interests." Besides the fact that it's a very Marxian way to view the world I've always found the logic of this criticism to be very interesting.

    In a thread below Hondo compared "metaphorically" young black leaders who support Trump to voters who are on Food Stamps voting for Republicans as an example of people who vote against their own "interests." Which immediately makes me think that in Hondo and other leftists minds they obviously believe that there is a certain way that blacks and poor people should vote. Pretty obvious that Hondo votes for Rats, so using his own logic can we surmise that he is on welfare or Food Stamps and or believes that the government should provide him with healthcare therefore, he votes accordingly in his own interests?

    What about if you're on Food Stamps but you realize that it's a program that kills imitative and keeps people in poverty. Would you still be voting against your "interests" if you voted for Republicans? And how exactly is it that when blacks support Republicans they are "metaphorically" voting against their interests? Are people's "interests" shaped solely by their skin color or their pocketbook?

    I'm fascinated on how white liberals are so sure they know what's in the "interests" of black voters and or poor voters.

    Your assumption that people on food stamps have no initiative is based on what exactly? Absolutely nothing. Cuz you made it up. If you’re too cold hearted to help a mother feed her kids, you’re a trash human. You ever volunteer at a food bank, Bob? You ever bother talking to those folks and learning anything about them? Because I have. And I can say with 100% certainty that you have no fucking clue what you’re talking about. As usual.
    Bobby thinks everyone on food stamps is fat, lazy do nothing bums smoking a cigarette on their Obama phone.

    photo CDE3DF7D-BCB6-4D3E-BC54-F10A4A124DFE_zpsourkgvqe.png

    photo 574A8943-BE31-4BF6-8F18-A670E14863D2_zps6grofwmh.png

    That being said Bob. Congress has been controlled by Republicans for the better part of 8 years and controlled everything the last 2. What bills has been put forth by Republicans that has helped the black community or poor people?

    And don't go saying the tax cut. We all know that primarily went to the wealthy business owning class and the majority of that money went to stock buybacks. And for the $30 bucks a month the average poor person made, gas and inflation has easily covered that.

    So answer the question. With specific examples.
    “The black community”. Speaks volumes. They aren’t individuals. They are a group. All alike.

    What law would you propose that would help the “black community “?

    Getting the fuck out of the way and allowing the market to employee people is the only correct answer. The government doesn’t have to do anything.
    STFU with your black community wording.

    That being said. We've had 2 years of relaxing regulations and tax cuts. Why aren't labor participation rates improving?

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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,215
    Hondo likes children who are on welfare, he figures that will make them more receptive to his sexual advances.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,215
    edited October 2018
    Hey Hondo, we have this thing called the Constitution, maybe you’ve heard of it. It doesn’t allow the government to create programs to assist people based upon their skin color.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,215
    Since you don’t vote against your self interest Hondo safe to assume you’re sucking off the public teat?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    Hey Hondo, we have this thing called the Constitution, maybe you’ve heard of it. It doesn’t allow the government to create programs to assist people based upon their skin color.

    El oh El.

    Last year I set a goal to add 5.5 million new minority homeowners in America by the end of the decade. That is an attainable goal; that is an essential goal. And we're making progress toward that goal. In the past 18 months, more than 1 million minority families have become homeowners. (Applause.) And there's more that we can do to achieve the goal. The law I sign today will help us build on this progress in a very practical way.

    https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2003/12/20031216-9.html


    BTW. I didn't think you could answer the question. I was at least expecting you'd try.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,215
    edited October 2018
    Were white people not eligible for those very same loans and down payment assistance Hondo?

    Dance my stupid litttle Kunt, dance!!!!
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    One of the reoccurring criticisms that I see from the left over the past few years is that many Republican voters vote contrary to their "interests." Besides the fact that it's a very Marxian way to view the world I've always found the logic of this criticism to be very interesting.

    In a thread below Hondo compared "metaphorically" young black leaders who support Trump to voters who are on Food Stamps voting for Republicans as an example of people who vote against their own "interests." Which immediately makes me think that in Hondo and other leftists minds they obviously believe that there is a certain way that blacks and poor people should vote. Pretty obvious that Hondo votes for Rats, so using his own logic can we surmise that he is on welfare or Food Stamps and or believes that the government should provide him with healthcare therefore, he votes accordingly in his own interests?

    What about if you're on Food Stamps but you realize that it's a program that kills imitative and keeps people in poverty. Would you still be voting against your "interests" if you voted for Republicans? And how exactly is it that when blacks support Republicans they are "metaphorically" voting against their interests? Are people's "interests" shaped solely by their skin color or their pocketbook?

    I'm fascinated on how white liberals are so sure they know what's in the "interests" of black voters and or poor voters.

    Your assumption that people on food stamps have no initiative is based on what exactly? Absolutely nothing. Cuz you made it up. If you’re too cold hearted to help a mother feed her kids, you’re a trash human. You ever volunteer at a food bank, Bob? You ever bother talking to those folks and learning anything about them? Because I have. And I can say with 100% certainty that you have no fucking clue what you’re talking about. As usual.
    I'm going to be nice. Read what I wrote again and then get back to me if you really think I was saying all people on Food Stamps have no initiative. Read the entire thing. And then get back to me if you still believe that was what I was saying.
    It’s even dumber the 2nd time.
    I’ll take that as “I just figured out I had my head up my ass but I lack the integrity to admit it.”
    Nope. Still dumb.