A fair and balanced article from CNN on Trump

HardlyClothed said:

This is really the worst kind of political journalism where politics is covered like sports and “winning” is value neutral. There is no consideration of the consequences of seating Kavanaugh, who, like the good little federalist society errand boy he is, will sell out the few labor protections we still have to corporate interests and will further gut Roe as to make abortion effectively illegal in red states.

Never mind the credible accusations of multiple sexual assaults and his brazen lying under oath about his past drinking habits. Or that he is a nakedly partisan operative going back to his time on the Starr committee and in Dubya’s white house. By any standard he is unqualified to be a federal judge let alone a supreme court jusrice.

But “winning”.

GrundleStiltzkin said:

Somewhat different point about SCOTUS jurisprudence.

That's a question of obeying the law, whether you like it or not. This is about what the law should be.

Nap time?

creepycoug said:

SFGbob said:

HardlyClothed said:

This is really the worst kind of political journalism where politics is covered like sports and “winning” is value neutral. There is no consideration of the consequences of seating Kavanaugh, who, like the good little federalist society errand boy he is, will sell out the few labor protections we still have to corporate interests and will further gut Roe as to make abortion effectively illegal in red states.

Never mind the credible accusations of multiple sexual assaults and his brazen lying under oath about his past drinking habits. Or that he is a nakedly partisan operative going back to his time on the Starr committee and in Dubya’s white house. By any standard he is unqualified to be a federal judge let alone a supreme court jusrice.

But “winning”.

Overturn Roe and abortion becomes illegal in just a handful of states. Utah, Mississippi. Texas isn't going to outlaw abortion. There will be more restrictions but it won't be banned outright in hardly any states. Which is what should have happened with it from the very outset. If a state wants to make abortion legal let them. That's the way the system was supposed to work.

Your claim that there are credible accusations of "multiple," let alone one sexual assault is pure crap. Ford's allegation's have no credibility. The claims that were made by Avenatti's client were a total joke that completely fell apart with even the smallest inspection and the no less than the NYTimes claimed that they couldn't find a single person to corroborate Ramirez's story that even she wasn't able to recall until after speaking with her Rat party lawyer for 6 days.

Consider what Dworkin has said about this, even though he's a liberal. If abortion is the moral equivalent of murder, and murder is stipulated to be unacceptable in all but the narrowest of circumstances, the state lines seem like an arbitrary point of delineation.

In other words, if there is any sense of this collection of people being a nation with any sense of unification, then something as basic as "here it's murder, there it's a procedure" ought not to depend on what a given state wants to do. That was the fundamental flaw in Scalia's adherence to "let the states figure it out" line of logic. There has to be some things that are so basic that state by state ought not be the answer.

It's either ok or it's not, and if it's not, it ought to be illegal everywhere. Not just some places.

The let the states figure it out has never made an ounce of sense to me on this issue. Like capital punishment. It should be ok or not ok, and that should be the law of the land.

Otherwise, you just have a bunch of nation states and there really is no USA.

SFGbob said:

HardlyClothed said:

This is really the worst kind of political journalism where politics is covered like sports and “winning” is value neutral. There is no consideration of the consequences of seating Kavanaugh, who, like the good little federalist society errand boy he is, will sell out the few labor protections we still have to corporate interests and will further gut Roe as to make abortion effectively illegal in red states.

Never mind the credible accusations of multiple sexual assaults and his brazen lying under oath about his past drinking habits. Or that he is a nakedly partisan operative going back to his time on the Starr committee and in Dubya’s white house. By any standard he is unqualified to be a federal judge let alone a supreme court jusrice.

But “winning”.

Overturn Roe and abortion becomes illegal in just a handful of states. Utah, Mississippi. Texas isn't going to outlaw abortion. There will be more restrictions but it won't be banned outright in hardly any states. Which is what should have happened with it from the very outset. If a state wants to make abortion legal let them. That's the way the system was supposed to work.

Your claim that there are credible accusations of "multiple," let alone one sexual assault is pure crap. Ford's allegation's have no credibility. The claims that were made by Avenatti's client were a total joke that completely fell apart with even the smallest inspection and the no less than the NYTimes claimed that they couldn't find a single person to corroborate Ramirez's story that even she wasn't able to recall until after speaking with her Rat party lawyer for 6 days.

MikeDamone said:

HardlyClothed said:

This is really the worst kind of political journalism where politics is covered like sports and “winning” is value neutral. There is no consideration of the consequences of seating Kavanaugh, who, like the good little federalist society errand boy he is, will sell out the few labor protections we still have to corporate interests and will further gut Roe as to make abortion effectively illegal in red states.

Never mind the credible accusations of multiple sexual assaults and his brazen lying under oath about his past drinking habits. Or that he is a nakedly partisan operative going back to his time on the Starr committee and in Dubya’s white house. By any standard he is unqualified to be a federal judge let alone a supreme court jusrice.

But “winning”.

Will all this be before or after Betsy Devos turns all of the public schools into Christian indoctration camps, Trump crashes the stock market, we get into a nuclear war with DPK, gays are rounded up and put into concentration camps, and birth control is made illegal?

MikeDamone said:

HardlyClothed said:

This is really the worst kind of political journalism where politics is covered like sports and “winning” is value neutral. There is no consideration of the consequences of seating Kavanaugh, who, like the good little federalist society errand boy he is, will sell out the few labor protections we still have to corporate interests and will further gut Roe as to make abortion effectively illegal in red states.

Never mind the credible accusations of multiple sexual assaults and his brazen lying under oath about his past drinking habits. Or that he is a nakedly partisan operative going back to his time on the Starr committee and in Dubya’s white house. By any standard he is unqualified to be a federal judge let alone a supreme court jusrice.

But “winning”.

Will all this be before or after Betsy Devos turns all of the public schools into Christian indoctration camps, Trump crashes the stock market, we get into a nuclear war with DPK, gays are rounded up and put into concentration camps, and birth control is made illegal?

HardlyClothed said:

MikeDamone said:

HardlyClothed said:

This is really the worst kind of political journalism where politics is covered like sports and “winning” is value neutral. There is no consideration of the consequences of seating Kavanaugh, who, like the good little federalist society errand boy he is, will sell out the few labor protections we still have to corporate interests and will further gut Roe as to make abortion effectively illegal in red states.

Never mind the credible accusations of multiple sexual assaults and his brazen lying under oath about his past drinking habits. Or that he is a nakedly partisan operative going back to his time on the Starr committee and in Dubya’s white house. By any standard he is unqualified to be a federal judge let alone a supreme court jusrice.

But “winning”.

Will all this be before or after Betsy Devos turns all of the public schools into Christian indoctration camps, Trump crashes the stock market, we get into a nuclear war with DPK, gays are rounded up and put into concentration camps, and birth control is made illegal?

Yes it’s pure liberal fantasy that a conservative court will chip away at mid-century advances in labor and reproductive rights. No precedent for it.

Pitchfork51 said:

As usual, liberals don't realize that liberal presidents and judges dont make laws, but do knock up girlfriends on occasion, and enjoy the discretion and option of safe and available abortions, too.