A fair and balanced article from CNN on Trump

DerekJohnson

https://cnn.com/2018/10/06/politics/donald-trump-presidency-supreme-court-economy/index.html

TierbsHsotBoobs

If he and Congress stayed focused on their economic accomplishments to date, they would crush the midterms.

RaceBannon

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

If he and Congress stayed focused on their economic accomplishments to date, they would crush the midterms.

How are they not? Trump is not shy about it at all. It's not covered much but he's out there

Then the democrats came up with Christmas in October with their SC debacle

You say this a lot and it never makes sense.

SFGbob

RaceBannon said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

If he and Congress stayed focused on their economic accomplishments to date, they would crush the midterms.

How are they not? Trump is not shy about it at all. It's not covered much but he's out there

Then the democrats came up with Christmas in October with their SC debacle

You say this a lot and it never makes sense.

Trump and the GOP have been very focused on the economic accomplishments. The MSM has little interest and is constantly reporting negative stories about the Administration. Lowest unemployment rate since 1969. How much press did that get and how many people credited Trump for it?

HardlyClothed

This is really the worst kind of political journalism where politics is covered like sports and “winning” is value neutral. There is no consideration of the consequences of seating Kavanaugh, who, like the good little federalist society errand boy he is, will sell out the few labor protections we still have to corporate interests and will further gut Roe as to make abortion effectively illegal in red states.

Never mind the credible accusations of multiple sexual assaults and his brazen lying under oath about his past drinking habits. Or that he is a nakedly partisan operative going back to his time on the Starr committee and in Dubya’s white house. By any standard he is unqualified to be a federal judge let alone a supreme court jusrice.

But “winning”.

PurpleThrobber

HardlyClothed said:

This is really the worst kind of political journalism where politics is covered like sports and “winning” is value neutral. There is no consideration of the consequences of seating Kavanaugh, who, like the good little federalist society errand boy he is, will sell out the few labor protections we still have to corporate interests and will further gut Roe as to make abortion effectively illegal in red states.

Never mind the credible accusations of multiple sexual assaults and his brazen lying under oath about his past drinking habits. Or that he is a nakedly partisan operative going back to his time on the Starr committee and in Dubya’s white house. By any standard he is unqualified to be a federal judge let alone a supreme court jusrice.

But “winning”.

Bullshit.

There was not one credible, substantiated sexual assault accusation.

Get off that horse - it is killing the blue wave.

Dems never learn.

SFGbob

HardlyClothed said:

This is really the worst kind of political journalism where politics is covered like sports and “winning” is value neutral. There is no consideration of the consequences of seating Kavanaugh, who, like the good little federalist society errand boy he is, will sell out the few labor protections we still have to corporate interests and will further gut Roe as to make abortion effectively illegal in red states.

Never mind the credible accusations of multiple sexual assaults and his brazen lying under oath about his past drinking habits. Or that he is a nakedly partisan operative going back to his time on the Starr committee and in Dubya’s white house. By any standard he is unqualified to be a federal judge let alone a supreme court jusrice.

But “winning”.

Overturn Roe and abortion becomes illegal in just a handful of states. Utah, Mississippi. Texas isn't going to outlaw abortion. There will be more restrictions but it won't be banned outright in hardly any states. Which is what should have happened with it from the very outset. If a state wants to make abortion legal let them. That's the way the system was supposed to work.

Your claim that there are credible accusations of "multiple," let alone one sexual assault is pure crap. Ford's allegation's have no credibility. The claims that were made by Avenatti's client were a total joke that completely fell apart with even the smallest inspection and the no less than the NYTimes claimed that they couldn't find a single person to corroborate Ramirez's story that even she wasn't able to recall until after speaking with her Rat party lawyer for 6 days.

sarktastic

CuntWaffle

HardlyClothed said:

This is really the worst kind of political journalism where politics is covered like sports and “winning” is value neutral. There is no consideration of the consequences of seating Kavanaugh, who, like the good little federalist society errand boy he is, will sell out the few labor protections we still have to corporate interests and will further gut Roe as to make abortion effectively illegal in red states.

Never mind the credible accusations of multiple sexual assaults and his brazen lying under oath about his past drinking habits. Or that he is a nakedly partisan operative going back to his time on the Starr committee and in Dubya’s white house. By any standard he is unqualified to be a federal judge let alone a supreme court jusrice.

But “winning”.

Lol sure.gif

creepycoug

SFGbob said:

HardlyClothed said:

This is really the worst kind of political journalism where politics is covered like sports and “winning” is value neutral. There is no consideration of the consequences of seating Kavanaugh, who, like the good little federalist society errand boy he is, will sell out the few labor protections we still have to corporate interests and will further gut Roe as to make abortion effectively illegal in red states.

Never mind the credible accusations of multiple sexual assaults and his brazen lying under oath about his past drinking habits. Or that he is a nakedly partisan operative going back to his time on the Starr committee and in Dubya’s white house. By any standard he is unqualified to be a federal judge let alone a supreme court jusrice.

But “winning”.

Overturn Roe and abortion becomes illegal in just a handful of states. Utah, Mississippi. Texas isn't going to outlaw abortion. There will be more restrictions but it won't be banned outright in hardly any states. Which is what should have happened with it from the very outset. If a state wants to make abortion legal let them. That's the way the system was supposed to work.

Your claim that there are credible accusations of "multiple," let alone one sexual assault is pure crap. Ford's allegation's have no credibility. The claims that were made by Avenatti's client were a total joke that completely fell apart with even the smallest inspection and the no less than the NYTimes claimed that they couldn't find a single person to corroborate Ramirez's story that even she wasn't able to recall until after speaking with her Rat party lawyer for 6 days.

Consider what Dworkin has said about this, even though he's a liberal. If abortion is the moral equivalent of murder, and murder is stipulated to be unacceptable in all but the narrowest of circumstances, the state lines seem like an arbitrary point of delineation.

In other words, if there is any sense of this collection of people being a nation with any sense of unification, then something as basic as "here it's murder, there it's a procedure" ought not to depend on what a given state wants to do. That was the fundamental flaw in Scalia's adherence to "let the states figure it out" line of logic. There has to be some things that are so basic that state by state ought not be the answer.

It's either ok or it's not, and if it's not, it ought to be illegal everywhere. Not just some places.

The let the states figure it out has never made an ounce of sense to me on this issue. Like capital punishment. It should be ok or not ok, and that should be the law of the land.

Otherwise, you just have a bunch of nation states and there really is no USA.

RaceBannon

creepycoug said:

SFGbob said:

HardlyClothed said:

This is really the worst kind of political journalism where politics is covered like sports and “winning” is value neutral. There is no consideration of the consequences of seating Kavanaugh, who, like the good little federalist society errand boy he is, will sell out the few labor protections we still have to corporate interests and will further gut Roe as to make abortion effectively illegal in red states.

Never mind the credible accusations of multiple sexual assaults and his brazen lying under oath about his past drinking habits. Or that he is a nakedly partisan operative going back to his time on the Starr committee and in Dubya’s white house. By any standard he is unqualified to be a federal judge let alone a supreme court jusrice.

But “winning”.

Overturn Roe and abortion becomes illegal in just a handful of states. Utah, Mississippi. Texas isn't going to outlaw abortion. There will be more restrictions but it won't be banned outright in hardly any states. Which is what should have happened with it from the very outset. If a state wants to make abortion legal let them. That's the way the system was supposed to work.

Your claim that there are credible accusations of "multiple," let alone one sexual assault is pure crap. Ford's allegation's have no credibility. The claims that were made by Avenatti's client were a total joke that completely fell apart with even the smallest inspection and the no less than the NYTimes claimed that they couldn't find a single person to corroborate Ramirez's story that even she wasn't able to recall until after speaking with her Rat party lawyer for 6 days.

Consider what Dworkin has said about this, even though he's a liberal. If abortion is the moral equivalent of murder, and murder is stipulated to be unacceptable in all but the narrowest of circumstances, the state lines seem like an arbitrary point of delineation.

In other words, if there is any sense of this collection of people being a nation with any sense of unification, then something as basic as "here it's murder, there it's a procedure" ought not to depend on what a given state wants to do. That was the fundamental flaw in Scalia's adherence to "let the states figure it out" line of logic. There has to be some things that are so basic that state by state ought not be the answer.

It's either ok or it's not, and if it's not, it ought to be illegal everywhere. Not just some places.

The let the states figure it out has never made an ounce of sense to me on this issue. Like capital punishment. It should be ok or not ok, and that should be the law of the land.

Otherwise, you just have a bunch of nation states and there really is no USA.

So no sanctuary cities then

creepycoug

RaceBannon said:

creepycoug said:

SFGbob said:

HardlyClothed said:

This is really the worst kind of political journalism where politics is covered like sports and “winning” is value neutral. There is no consideration of the consequences of seating Kavanaugh, who, like the good little federalist society errand boy he is, will sell out the few labor protections we still have to corporate interests and will further gut Roe as to make abortion effectively illegal in red states.

Never mind the credible accusations of multiple sexual assaults and his brazen lying under oath about his past drinking habits. Or that he is a nakedly partisan operative going back to his time on the Starr committee and in Dubya’s white house. By any standard he is unqualified to be a federal judge let alone a supreme court jusrice.

But “winning”.

Overturn Roe and abortion becomes illegal in just a handful of states. Utah, Mississippi. Texas isn't going to outlaw abortion. There will be more restrictions but it won't be banned outright in hardly any states. Which is what should have happened with it from the very outset. If a state wants to make abortion legal let them. That's the way the system was supposed to work.

Your claim that there are credible accusations of "multiple," let alone one sexual assault is pure crap. Ford's allegation's have no credibility. The claims that were made by Avenatti's client were a total joke that completely fell apart with even the smallest inspection and the no less than the NYTimes claimed that they couldn't find a single person to corroborate Ramirez's story that even she wasn't able to recall until after speaking with her Rat party lawyer for 6 days.

Consider what Dworkin has said about this, even though he's a liberal. If abortion is the moral equivalent of murder, and murder is stipulated to be unacceptable in all but the narrowest of circumstances, the state lines seem like an arbitrary point of delineation.

In other words, if there is any sense of this collection of people being a nation with any sense of unification, then something as basic as "here it's murder, there it's a procedure" ought not to depend on what a given state wants to do. That was the fundamental flaw in Scalia's adherence to "let the states figure it out" line of logic. There has to be some things that are so basic that state by state ought not be the answer.

It's either ok or it's not, and if it's not, it ought to be illegal everywhere. Not just some places.

The let the states figure it out has never made an ounce of sense to me on this issue. Like capital punishment. It should be ok or not ok, and that should be the law of the land.

Otherwise, you just have a bunch of nation states and there really is no USA.

So no sanctuary cities then

Somewhat different point about SCOTUS jurisprudence.

That's a question of obeying the law, whether you like it or not. This is about what the law should be.

Nap time?

creepycoug

Somewhat different point about SCOTUS jurisprudence.

That's a question of obeying the law, whether you like it or not. This is about what the law should be.

Nap time?

GrundleStiltzkin

Somewhat different point about SCOTUS jurisprudence.

That's a question of obeying the law, whether you like it or not. This is about what the law should be.

Nap time?

creepycoug

GrundleStiltzkin said:

Somewhat different point about SCOTUS jurisprudence.

That's a question of obeying the law, whether you like it or not. This is about what the law should be.

Nap time?

@StrongArmCobra

RoadTrip

HardlyClothed said:

This is really the worst kind of political journalism where politics is covered like sports and “winning” is value neutral. There is no consideration of the consequences of seating Kavanaugh, who, like the good little federalist society errand boy he is, will sell out the few labor protections we still have to corporate interests and will further gut Roe as to make abortion effectively illegal in red states.

Never mind the credible accusations of multiple sexual assaults and his brazen lying under oath about his past drinking habits. Or that he is a nakedly partisan operative going back to his time on the Starr committee and in Dubya’s white house. By any standard he is unqualified to be a federal judge let alone a supreme court jusrice.

But “winning”.

You had me at Never Mind. Fing dipshit

SFGbob

creepycoug said:

SFGbob said:

HardlyClothed said:

This is really the worst kind of political journalism where politics is covered like sports and “winning” is value neutral. There is no consideration of the consequences of seating Kavanaugh, who, like the good little federalist society errand boy he is, will sell out the few labor protections we still have to corporate interests and will further gut Roe as to make abortion effectively illegal in red states.

Never mind the credible accusations of multiple sexual assaults and his brazen lying under oath about his past drinking habits. Or that he is a nakedly partisan operative going back to his time on the Starr committee and in Dubya’s white house. By any standard he is unqualified to be a federal judge let alone a supreme court jusrice.

But “winning”.

Overturn Roe and abortion becomes illegal in just a handful of states. Utah, Mississippi. Texas isn't going to outlaw abortion. There will be more restrictions but it won't be banned outright in hardly any states. Which is what should have happened with it from the very outset. If a state wants to make abortion legal let them. That's the way the system was supposed to work.

Your claim that there are credible accusations of "multiple," let alone one sexual assault is pure crap. Ford's allegation's have no credibility. The claims that were made by Avenatti's client were a total joke that completely fell apart with even the smallest inspection and the no less than the NYTimes claimed that they couldn't find a single person to corroborate Ramirez's story that even she wasn't able to recall until after speaking with her Rat party lawyer for 6 days.

Consider what Dworkin has said about this, even though he's a liberal. If abortion is the moral equivalent of murder, and murder is stipulated to be unacceptable in all but the narrowest of circumstances, the state lines seem like an arbitrary point of delineation.

In other words, if there is any sense of this collection of people being a nation with any sense of unification, then something as basic as "here it's murder, there it's a procedure" ought not to depend on what a given state wants to do. That was the fundamental flaw in Scalia's adherence to "let the states figure it out" line of logic. There has to be some things that are so basic that state by state ought not be the answer.

It's either ok or it's not, and if it's not, it ought to be illegal everywhere. Not just some places.

The let the states figure it out has never made an ounce of sense to me on this issue. Like capital punishment. It should be ok or not ok, and that should be the law of the land.

Otherwise, you just have a bunch of nation states and there really is no USA.

But I don’t think 1st trimester abortions are murder and I’ve not argued that they are. Different states have different tax laws, different laws on marijuana use and hundreds of other issues and somehow the USA has been able to survive.

Capital punishment isn’t legal in every state and the Federal government shouldn’t be able to dictate to every state whether they are allowed to have it or not.

Sledog

HardlyClothed said:

This is really the worst kind of political journalism where politics is covered like sports and “winning” is value neutral. There is no consideration of the consequences of seating Kavanaugh, who, like the good little federalist society errand boy he is, will sell out the few labor protections we still have to corporate interests and will further gut Roe as to make abortion effectively illegal in red states.

Never mind the credible accusations of multiple sexual assaults and his brazen lying under oath about his past drinking habits. Or that he is a nakedly partisan operative going back to his time on the Starr committee and in Dubya’s white house. By any standard he is unqualified to be a federal judge let alone a supreme court jusrice.

But “winning”.

TurdBomber

SFGbob said:

HardlyClothed said:

This is really the worst kind of political journalism where politics is covered like sports and “winning” is value neutral. There is no consideration of the consequences of seating Kavanaugh, who, like the good little federalist society errand boy he is, will sell out the few labor protections we still have to corporate interests and will further gut Roe as to make abortion effectively illegal in red states.

Never mind the credible accusations of multiple sexual assaults and his brazen lying under oath about his past drinking habits. Or that he is a nakedly partisan operative going back to his time on the Starr committee and in Dubya’s white house. By any standard he is unqualified to be a federal judge let alone a supreme court jusrice.

But “winning”.

Overturn Roe and abortion becomes illegal in just a handful of states. Utah, Mississippi. Texas isn't going to outlaw abortion. There will be more restrictions but it won't be banned outright in hardly any states. Which is what should have happened with it from the very outset. If a state wants to make abortion legal let them. That's the way the system was supposed to work.

Your claim that there are credible accusations of "multiple," let alone one sexual assault is pure crap. Ford's allegation's have no credibility. The claims that were made by Avenatti's client were a total joke that completely fell apart with even the smallest inspection and the no less than the NYTimes claimed that they couldn't find a single person to corroborate Ramirez's story that even she wasn't able to recall until after speaking with her Rat party lawyer for 6 days.

Since when is wagging your dick in a broad's face assault? Kreist? It's an invitation for Christ's sake!

MikeDamone

HardlyClothed said:

This is really the worst kind of political journalism where politics is covered like sports and “winning” is value neutral. There is no consideration of the consequences of seating Kavanaugh, who, like the good little federalist society errand boy he is, will sell out the few labor protections we still have to corporate interests and will further gut Roe as to make abortion effectively illegal in red states.

Never mind the credible accusations of multiple sexual assaults and his brazen lying under oath about his past drinking habits. Or that he is a nakedly partisan operative going back to his time on the Starr committee and in Dubya’s white house. By any standard he is unqualified to be a federal judge let alone a supreme court jusrice.

But “winning”.

Will all this be before or after Betsy Devos turns all of the public schools into Christian indoctration camps, Trump crashes the stock market, we get into a nuclear war with DPK, gays are rounded up and put into concentration camps, and birth control is made illegal?

TurdBomber

MikeDamone said:

HardlyClothed said:

This is really the worst kind of political journalism where politics is covered like sports and “winning” is value neutral. There is no consideration of the consequences of seating Kavanaugh, who, like the good little federalist society errand boy he is, will sell out the few labor protections we still have to corporate interests and will further gut Roe as to make abortion effectively illegal in red states.

Never mind the credible accusations of multiple sexual assaults and his brazen lying under oath about his past drinking habits. Or that he is a nakedly partisan operative going back to his time on the Starr committee and in Dubya’s white house. By any standard he is unqualified to be a federal judge let alone a supreme court jusrice.

But “winning”.

Will all this be before or after Betsy Devos turns all of the public schools into Christian indoctration camps, Trump crashes the stock market, we get into a nuclear war with DPK, gays are rounded up and put into concentration camps, and birth control is made illegal?

Sounds like somebody wants an early Christmas this year.