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A fair and balanced article from CNN on Trump

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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    If he and Congress stayed focused on their economic accomplishments to date, they would crush the midterms.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,755 Founders Club

    If he and Congress stayed focused on their economic accomplishments to date, they would crush the midterms.

    How are they not? Trump is not shy about it at all. It's not covered much but he's out there

    Then the democrats came up with Christmas in October with their SC debacle

    You say this a lot and it never makes sense.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188

    If he and Congress stayed focused on their economic accomplishments to date, they would crush the midterms.

    How are they not? Trump is not shy about it at all. It's not covered much but he's out there

    Then the democrats came up with Christmas in October with their SC debacle

    You say this a lot and it never makes sense.
    Trump and the GOP have been very focused on the economic accomplishments. The MSM has little interest and is constantly reporting negative stories about the Administration. Lowest unemployment rate since 1969. How much press did that get and how many people credited Trump for it?
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    This is really the worst kind of political journalism where politics is covered like sports and “winning” is value neutral. There is no consideration of the consequences of seating Kavanaugh, who, like the good little federalist society errand boy he is, will sell out the few labor protections we still have to corporate interests and will further gut Roe as to make abortion effectively illegal in red states.

    Never mind the credible accusations of multiple sexual assaults and his brazen lying under oath about his past drinking habits. Or that he is a nakedly partisan operative going back to his time on the Starr committee and in Dubya’s white house. By any standard he is unqualified to be a federal judge let alone a supreme court jusrice.

    But “winning”.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    edited October 2018

    This is really the worst kind of political journalism where politics is covered like sports and “winning” is value neutral. There is no consideration of the consequences of seating Kavanaugh, who, like the good little federalist society errand boy he is, will sell out the few labor protections we still have to corporate interests and will further gut Roe as to make abortion effectively illegal in red states.

    Never mind the credible accusations of multiple sexual assaults and his brazen lying under oath about his past drinking habits. Or that he is a nakedly partisan operative going back to his time on the Starr committee and in Dubya’s white house. By any standard he is unqualified to be a federal judge let alone a supreme court jusrice.

    But “winning”.

    Overturn Roe and abortion becomes illegal in just a handful of states. Utah, Mississippi. Texas isn't going to outlaw abortion. There will be more restrictions but it won't be banned outright in hardly any states. Which is what should have happened with it from the very outset. If a state wants to make abortion legal let them. That's the way the system was supposed to work.

    Your claim that there are credible accusations of "multiple," let alone one sexual assault is pure crap. Ford's allegation's have no credibility. The claims that were made by Avenatti's client were a total joke that completely fell apart with even the smallest inspection and the no less than the NYTimes claimed that they couldn't find a single person to corroborate Ramirez's story that even she wasn't able to recall until after speaking with her Rat party lawyer for 6 days.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,326
    SFGbob said:

    This is really the worst kind of political journalism where politics is covered like sports and “winning” is value neutral. There is no consideration of the consequences of seating Kavanaugh, who, like the good little federalist society errand boy he is, will sell out the few labor protections we still have to corporate interests and will further gut Roe as to make abortion effectively illegal in red states.

    Never mind the credible accusations of multiple sexual assaults and his brazen lying under oath about his past drinking habits. Or that he is a nakedly partisan operative going back to his time on the Starr committee and in Dubya’s white house. By any standard he is unqualified to be a federal judge let alone a supreme court jusrice.

    But “winning”.

    Overturn Roe and abortion becomes illegal in just a handful of states. Utah, Mississippi. Texas isn't going to outlaw abortion. There will be more restrictions but it won't be banned outright in hardly any states. Which is what should have happened with it from the very outset. If a state wants to make abortion legal let them. That's the way the system was supposed to work.

    Your claim that there are credible accusations of "multiple," let alone one sexual assault is pure crap. Ford's allegation's have no credibility. The claims that were made by Avenatti's client were a total joke that completely fell apart with even the smallest inspection and the no less than the NYTimes claimed that they couldn't find a single person to corroborate Ramirez's story that even she wasn't able to recall until after speaking with her Rat party lawyer for 6 days.
    Consider what Dworkin has said about this, even though he's a liberal. If abortion is the moral equivalent of murder, and murder is stipulated to be unacceptable in all but the narrowest of circumstances, the state lines seem like an arbitrary point of delineation.

    In other words, if there is any sense of this collection of people being a nation with any sense of unification, then something as basic as "here it's murder, there it's a procedure" ought not to depend on what a given state wants to do. That was the fundamental flaw in Scalia's adherence to "let the states figure it out" line of logic. There has to be some things that are so basic that state by state ought not be the answer.

    It's either ok or it's not, and if it's not, it ought to be illegal everywhere. Not just some places.

    The let the states figure it out has never made an ounce of sense to me on this issue. Like capital punishment. It should be ok or not ok, and that should be the law of the land.

    Otherwise, you just have a bunch of nation states and there really is no USA.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,755 Founders Club

    SFGbob said:

    This is really the worst kind of political journalism where politics is covered like sports and “winning” is value neutral. There is no consideration of the consequences of seating Kavanaugh, who, like the good little federalist society errand boy he is, will sell out the few labor protections we still have to corporate interests and will further gut Roe as to make abortion effectively illegal in red states.

    Never mind the credible accusations of multiple sexual assaults and his brazen lying under oath about his past drinking habits. Or that he is a nakedly partisan operative going back to his time on the Starr committee and in Dubya’s white house. By any standard he is unqualified to be a federal judge let alone a supreme court jusrice.

    But “winning”.

    Overturn Roe and abortion becomes illegal in just a handful of states. Utah, Mississippi. Texas isn't going to outlaw abortion. There will be more restrictions but it won't be banned outright in hardly any states. Which is what should have happened with it from the very outset. If a state wants to make abortion legal let them. That's the way the system was supposed to work.

    Your claim that there are credible accusations of "multiple," let alone one sexual assault is pure crap. Ford's allegation's have no credibility. The claims that were made by Avenatti's client were a total joke that completely fell apart with even the smallest inspection and the no less than the NYTimes claimed that they couldn't find a single person to corroborate Ramirez's story that even she wasn't able to recall until after speaking with her Rat party lawyer for 6 days.
    Consider what Dworkin has said about this, even though he's a liberal. If abortion is the moral equivalent of murder, and murder is stipulated to be unacceptable in all but the narrowest of circumstances, the state lines seem like an arbitrary point of delineation.

    In other words, if there is any sense of this collection of people being a nation with any sense of unification, then something as basic as "here it's murder, there it's a procedure" ought not to depend on what a given state wants to do. That was the fundamental flaw in Scalia's adherence to "let the states figure it out" line of logic. There has to be some things that are so basic that state by state ought not be the answer.

    It's either ok or it's not, and if it's not, it ought to be illegal everywhere. Not just some places.

    The let the states figure it out has never made an ounce of sense to me on this issue. Like capital punishment. It should be ok or not ok, and that should be the law of the land.

    Otherwise, you just have a bunch of nation states and there really is no USA.
    So no sanctuary cities then