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Trump Engaged in Suspect Tax Schemes as He Reaped Riches From His Father

insinceredawg
insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
The president has long sold himself as a self-made billionaire, but a Times investigation found that he received at least $413 million in today’s dollars from his father’s real estate empire, much of it through tax dodges in the 1990s.

President Trump participated in dubious tax schemes during the 1990s, including instances of outright fraud, that greatly increased the fortune he received from his parents, an investigation by The New York Times has found.


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Helps Trump IMO
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    The president has long sold himself as a self-made billionaire, but a Times investigation found that he received at least $413 million in today’s dollars from his father’s real estate empire, much of it through tax dodges in the 1990s.

    President Trump participated in dubious tax schemes during the 1990s, including instances of outright fraud, that greatly increased the fortune he received from his parents, an investigation by The New York Times has found.


    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html

    Why didn't the IRS or the State of New York ever file charges against Trump if he had engaged in "outright fraud?"
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    SFGbob said:

    The president has long sold himself as a self-made billionaire, but a Times investigation found that he received at least $413 million in today’s dollars from his father’s real estate empire, much of it through tax dodges in the 1990s.

    President Trump participated in dubious tax schemes during the 1990s, including instances of outright fraud, that greatly increased the fortune he received from his parents, an investigation by The New York Times has found.


    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html

    Why didn't the IRS or the State of New York ever file charges against Trump if he had engaged in "outright fraud?"
    They were asleep at the wheel. They are looking into it now after the NYT story dropped.

    http://time.com/5413841/new-york-state-tax-trump/
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    SFGbob said:

    The president has long sold himself as a self-made billionaire, but a Times investigation found that he received at least $413 million in today’s dollars from his father’s real estate empire, much of it through tax dodges in the 1990s.

    President Trump participated in dubious tax schemes during the 1990s, including instances of outright fraud, that greatly increased the fortune he received from his parents, an investigation by The New York Times has found.


    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html

    Why didn't the IRS or the State of New York ever file charges against Trump if he had engaged in "outright fraud?"
    Because this country’s justice system has never prioritized white collar crime
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    The president has long sold himself as a self-made billionaire, but a Times investigation found that he received at least $413 million in today’s dollars from his father’s real estate empire, much of it through tax dodges in the 1990s.

    President Trump participated in dubious tax schemes during the 1990s, including instances of outright fraud, that greatly increased the fortune he received from his parents, an investigation by The New York Times has found.


    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html

    Why didn't the IRS or the State of New York ever file charges against Trump if he had engaged in "outright fraud?"
    Because this country’s justice system has never prioritized white collar crime
    Trump has never been audited? Somehow I doubt that.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    How many Wall Street Bankers went to jail while Obama was President? And what does Chelsea Clinton's husband do for a living?

    Everybody worships the Mighty Green Jesus, and politicians are the most hypocritical and corrupt in their religious devotion to it, regardless of which side of the aisle they stand on.

    Seriously, wake the fuck up. If Trump was ducking law enforcement, he was probably doing it by greasing the palms of elected officials. We are talking NYC, after all.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    Rich people avoid taxes?!!!

    Shocker!!!

    People didn't vote for Trump because he was honest and paid his fair share...hth
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Rich people avoid taxes?!!!

    Shocker!!!

    People didn't vote for Trump because he was honest and paid his fair share...hth

    Exactly. There are a lot of dumb voters out there.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    Rich people avoid taxes?!!!

    Shocker!!!

    People didn't vote for Trump because he was honest and paid his fair share...hth

    Exactly. There are a lot of dumb voters out there.
    If you measure dumb voters as those voters who are ignorant on the issues, the Rat party wins the votes nearly every election.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Bob is pressing extra hard today.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    edited October 2018
    2001400ex said:

    Rich people avoid taxes?!!!

    Shocker!!!

    People didn't vote for Trump because he was honest and paid his fair share...hth

    Exactly. There are a lot of dumb voters out there.
    The voters had the choice between Cancer or AIDS.
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117

    Rich people avoid taxes?!!!

    Shocker!!!

    People didn't vote for Trump because he was honest and paid his fair share...hth

    Sure, but a lot of voters voted for him because they believed he was a self made man who turned a "small loan" from his father into a billion dollar empire. This story further proves what the majority have known for years, Donny boy is a corrupt con man.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    edited October 2018

    Rich people avoid taxes?!!!

    Shocker!!!

    People didn't vote for Trump because he was honest and paid his fair share...hth

    Sure, but a lot of voters voted for him because they believed he was a self made man who turned a "small loan" from his father into a billion dollar empire. This story further proves what the majority have known for years, Donny boy is a corrupt con man.
    One con man wants to lower my taxes, the other, a con woman wants to increase my taxes. Who do you think I'm voting for?
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,045
    yeah, this is the last thing any group wants to focus on too much. people all over the political spectrum are guilty of tax evasion and of being in bed with Wall Street operatives.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    yeah, this is the last thing any group wants to focus on too much. people all over the political spectrum are guilty of tax evasion and of being in bed with Wall Street operatives.

    Tax evasion and tax avoidance aren't the same thing. We know that Trump has been audited numerous times. How did NY state and the IRS miss this?
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,045
    SFGbob said:

    yeah, this is the last thing any group wants to focus on too much. people all over the political spectrum are guilty of tax evasion and of being in bed with Wall Street operatives.

    Tax evasion and tax avoidance aren't the same thing. We know that Trump has been audited numerous times. How did NY state and the IRS miss this?
    Yes, I know Bob. I spend a good portion of my year structuring things to enable the latter. But I appreciate the clarification.

    How? Boy, I just don't know. Audits always seem to work in my experience.

    You're working too hard here. Even an enthusiastic Trump supporter knows he's not a clean guy. Hell, that's part of his appeal to a lot of people.

    We don't need a long and drawn out debate on this one. I'm sure that Trump has operated in ways that are not within the letter of the law, and I'm sure he's done worse than that. I'm also not sure I care.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,082 Founders Club
    Cease having a corrupt IRS and a Congress that enacts dodgy tax laws and you'll cease having people that make their money on those things. Statists don't want to think of the government as being the source of corruption though.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Good for him. The government is a bunch of thieving cunts.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Cease having a corrupt IRS and a Congress that enacts dodgy tax laws and you'll cease having people that make their money on those things. Statists don't want to think of the government as being the source of corruption though.

    Who should do the ceasing of the corrupt IRS and Congress? Great passive voice as always. Did anyone edit your BS in economics?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,870 Founders Club
    Nothing about Russian oligarchs?

    The dumb fucking left peddled that bullshit long enough

    THAT'S WHY WE NEED HIS TAX RETURNS

    No one cares but once again the left shows their hatred of America by breaking the law to leak tax returns

    Ends justify the means comrades
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    yeah, this is the last thing any group wants to focus on too much. people all over the political spectrum are guilty of tax evasion and of being in bed with Wall Street operatives.

    Tax evasion and tax avoidance aren't the same thing. We know that Trump has been audited numerous times. How did NY state and the IRS miss this?
    Yes, I know Bob. I spend a good portion of my year structuring things to enable the latter. But I appreciate the clarification.

    How? Boy, I just don't know. Audits always seem to work in my experience.

    You're working too hard here. Even an enthusiastic Trump supporter knows he's not a clean guy. Hell, that's part of his appeal to a lot of people.

    We don't need a long and drawn out debate on this one. I'm sure that Trump has operated in ways that are not within the letter of the law, and I'm sure he's done worse than that. I'm also not sure I care.
    I'm not working hard at all. I didn't say Trump was a clean guy. No need to go down Hondo's strawman ass rape lane. I would think that if Trump really has done something illegal with his taxes, one of the many audits he has been subjected to would have come up with it. No work at all.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Nothing about Russian oligarchs?

    The dumb fucking left peddled that bullshit long enough

    THAT'S WHY WE NEED HIS TAX RETURNS

    No one cares but once again the left shows their hatred of America by breaking the law to leak tax returns

    Ends justify the means comrades

    Ends justifying the means makes trump angry!

    Why can’t trump get treated fairly?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    yeah, this is the last thing any group wants to focus on too much. people all over the political spectrum are guilty of tax evasion and of being in bed with Wall Street operatives.

    Tax evasion and tax avoidance aren't the same thing. We know that Trump has been audited numerous times. How did NY state and the IRS miss this?
    Yes, I know Bob. I spend a good portion of my year structuring things to enable the latter. But I appreciate the clarification.

    How? Boy, I just don't know. Audits always seem to work in my experience.

    You're working too hard here. Even an enthusiastic Trump supporter knows he's not a clean guy. Hell, that's part of his appeal to a lot of people.

    We don't need a long and drawn out debate on this one. I'm sure that Trump has operated in ways that are not within the letter of the law, and I'm sure he's done worse than that. I'm also not sure I care.
    I'm not working hard at all. I didn't say Trump was a clean guy. No need to go down Hondo's strawman ass rape lane. I would think that if Trump really has done something illegal with his taxes, one of the many audits he has been subjected to would have come up with it. No work at all.
    I'm glad you have the same opinion of the Clinton's and their foundation.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,748 Standard Supporter
    Well when the nation's premier law enforcement agency, the New York Times, says so it must be true!
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    yeah, this is the last thing any group wants to focus on too much. people all over the political spectrum are guilty of tax evasion and of being in bed with Wall Street operatives.

    Tax evasion and tax avoidance aren't the same thing. We know that Trump has been audited numerous times. How did NY state and the IRS miss this?
    Yes, I know Bob. I spend a good portion of my year structuring things to enable the latter. But I appreciate the clarification.

    How? Boy, I just don't know. Audits always seem to work in my experience.

    You're working too hard here. Even an enthusiastic Trump supporter knows he's not a clean guy. Hell, that's part of his appeal to a lot of people.

    We don't need a long and drawn out debate on this one. I'm sure that Trump has operated in ways that are not within the letter of the law, and I'm sure he's done worse than that. I'm also not sure I care.
    I'm not working hard at all. I didn't say Trump was a clean guy. No need to go down Hondo's strawman ass rape lane. I would think that if Trump really has done something illegal with his taxes, one of the many audits he has been subjected to would have come up with it. No work at all.
    I'm glad you have the same opinion of the Clinton's and their foundation.
    Have the Clinton's Foundation been audited?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,870 Founders Club

    Nothing about Russian oligarchs?

    The dumb fucking left peddled that bullshit long enough

    THAT'S WHY WE NEED HIS TAX RETURNS

    No one cares but once again the left shows their hatred of America by breaking the law to leak tax returns

    Ends justify the means comrades

    Ends justifying the means makes trump angry!

    Why can’t trump get treated fairly?
    How much of the constitution and how may of our values are you willing to trash to get rid of him

    We already know you are in on illegal surveillance and leaking of tax returns by the IRS

    Anything else? By any means necessary?
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,748 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    yeah, this is the last thing any group wants to focus on too much. people all over the political spectrum are guilty of tax evasion and of being in bed with Wall Street operatives.

    Tax evasion and tax avoidance aren't the same thing. We know that Trump has been audited numerous times. How did NY state and the IRS miss this?
    Yes, I know Bob. I spend a good portion of my year structuring things to enable the latter. But I appreciate the clarification.

    How? Boy, I just don't know. Audits always seem to work in my experience.

    You're working too hard here. Even an enthusiastic Trump supporter knows he's not a clean guy. Hell, that's part of his appeal to a lot of people.

    We don't need a long and drawn out debate on this one. I'm sure that Trump has operated in ways that are not within the letter of the law, and I'm sure he's done worse than that. I'm also not sure I care.
    I'm not working hard at all. I didn't say Trump was a clean guy. No need to go down Hondo's strawman ass rape lane. I would think that if Trump really has done something illegal with his taxes, one of the many audits he has been subjected to would have come up with it. No work at all.
    I'm glad you have the same opinion of the Clinton's and their foundation.
    Have the Clinton's Foundation been audited?
    Half of DC will go to prison when they audit that Shit show!