Pac 12 Divison Tiebreakers
I saw someone complaining that Oregon would go to the 'ship in this situatuon because they ran through a shit nonconference while we lost to Auburn and Stanford probably loses to ND. Not true. Nonconference never comes into it:
Head-to-head results (best record in games between tied teams)
Record in intra-divisional games
Record against the next highest placed team in the division (based on the record in all conference games), proceeding through the division
Record in common conference games
Highest ranking in SportSource Analytics poll entering the final weekend of the regular season
So if it is a 3 way tie at 8-1 it comes down to the SportsSource poll which I don't think is even made public.
If it is a 3 way tie at 7-2 then the best games for UW to drop are:
1. Colorado (not intra-divisional or a common conference game)
2. Utah/ASU/UCLA (not intra-divisional)
3. OSU (assuming they finish last in the north)
4. Cal/WSU (prefer whichever finishes lower)
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12-1 or fuck the fuck off.
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Agreed, but the stupidity of tiebreakers always amuses me.TierbsHsotBoobs said:12-1 or fuck the fuck off.
Why is it better to lose to OSU than WSU? Why is it better to lose to Colorado than Utah? Its nonsensical.
Just go straight to point differential or the polls instead of trying to parse meaningless distinctions in conference record. -
If some random poll is used as the last tie breaker then non conference does come in to play to the extent it impacts the ordering in the poll.
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Team captains should play ro sham bo.
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But not simply in terms of record- Oregon 3-0 vs UW/Stanford 2-1.whlinder said:If some random poll is used as the last tie breaker then non conference does come in to play to the extent it impacts the ordering in the poll.
Close loss to Auburn in Atlanta > beating up on Portland State in any type of analytical ranking. -
Making the comparison apples to apples.FremontTroll said:
But not simply in terms of record- Oregon 3-0 vs UW/Stanford 2-1.whlinder said:If some random poll is used as the last tie breaker then non conference does come in to play to the extent it impacts the ordering in the poll.
Close loss to Auburn in Atlanta > beating up on San Jose State in any type of analytical ranking.
Beating BYU would eliminate Oregon in this tiebreaker scenario...then it would depend on ND v Stanford. -
We’re not supposed to deal in hypotheticals, but anyway....
No way are 3 dreck teams going 8-1 in this conference. 8-1 is a rare conference record to pull in the PAC 12. There is too much dreck at the top. Ain’t happening.
7-2 or 6-3 three way tie, sure.
And why is Oregon assumed to be one of the teams we are tied with and not Cal? -
Uw loses to Stanford and Oregon. There will be no 3 way tie.
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Because cal is rated way too high.whlinder said:We’re not supposed to deal in hypotheticals, but anyway....
No way are 3 dreck teams going 8-1 in this conference. 8-1 is a rare conference record to pull in the PAC 12. There is too much dreck at the top. Ain’t happening.
7-2 or 6-3 three way tie, sure.
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Fag. Stanford SUCKS and Washington should easily beat them at home.MikeDamone said:Uw loses to Stanford and Oregon. There will be no 3 way tie.
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Should. But won’t.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Fag. Stanford SUCKS and Washington should easily beat them at home.MikeDamone said:Uw loses to Stanford and Oregon. There will be no 3 way tie.
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Doogs love hypotheticals
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You want a hypothetical? I'll give you a hypothetical:WeakarmCobra said:Doogs love hypotheticals
UW 6-3
Stanford 6-3
Oregon 6-3
Cal 6-3
WSU 6-3
OSU 1-8
Who goes? -
BYU cause everyone is shitFremontTroll said:
You want a hypothetical? I'll give you a hypothetical:WeakarmCobra said:Doogs love hypotheticals
UW 6-3
Stanford 6-3
Oregon 6-3
Cal 6-3
WSU 6-3
OSU 1-8
Who goes? -
Whichever one lost to Boov is out. Then you pick the 2 of the 4 that went 2-1 in the group of 4, then the head to head winner of those 2.FremontTroll said:
You want a hypothetical? I'll give you a hypothetical:WeakarmCobra said:Doogs love hypotheticals
UW 6-3
Stanford 6-3
Oregon 6-3
Cal 6-3
WSU 6-3
OSU 1-8
Who goes? -
This will be a fun read after cal beats Oregon next weekend.
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Lol at anyone thinking Oregon goes 8-1.
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The only three way I want to read about is Stalin, khaleesi and @Cohen12
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PurpleThrobber said:
The only three way I want to read about is @Doog_de_Jour, @Khaleesi and @Cohen12
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Need live stream on that.TierbsHsotBoobs said:PurpleThrobber said:The only three way I want to read about is @Doog_de_Jour, @Khaleesi and @Cohen12
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Cal will be eliminated from the discussion this Saturday. In spectacular fashion.
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I wanted to see how often 8-1 records show up in the conference.whlinder said:We’re not supposed to deal in hypotheticals, but anyway....
No way are 3 dreck teams going 8-1 in this conference. 8-1 is a rare conference record to pull in the PAC 12. There is too much dreck at the top. Ain’t happening.
2017: USC
2016: UW, Colorado
2015: Stanford
2014: Oregon
2013: ASU
2012: Stanford, Oregon
2011: Stanford, Oregon
(single division before 2011)
2010: Oregon (9-0), Stanford
2009: Oregon
2008: USC
2007: none
2006: none
2005 and before was an 8 game schedule. -
Who cares? Everyone sucks and we should consider firing people.FremontTroll said:
You want a hypothetical? I'll give you a hypothetical:WeakarmCobra said:Doogs love hypotheticals
UW 6-3
Stanford 6-3
Oregon 6-3
Cal 6-3
WSU 6-3
OSU 1-8
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Now that we? beat ASU and Utah our odds are north of 50% to go 8-1 or 9-0.
Now that Oregon lost, their odds of going 8-1 are probably less than 10% and are eliminated from going 9-0 entirely.
Stanford is who we need to worry about now as they equally have high odds to go 8-1 or 9-0 after beating Oregon and USC already. If we lose that head to head we are probably fucked.
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There is no universe where Oregon goes 8-1 in conference in 2018.
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I wouldn't be so sure. I've been predicting a Cal win all year.oregonblitzkrieg said:Cal will be eliminated from the discussion this Saturday. In spectacular fashion.
