OT: trade or extend Russell Wilson?
OT: trade or extend Russell Wilson? 37 votes
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How dare you, Sir! Please do not defile the sanctity of the game of college football with your NFL hot talk.
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kill this thread and move it to the NOGAF bored
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Not sure. This season will give the answer. I would probably lean towards trade him, but that could also leave the Seahawks years away from being a playoff team again.
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Trade him
They are years away with him so it doesn't really matterRoadDawg55 said:Not sure. This season will give the answer. I would probably lean towards trade him, but that could also leave the Seahawks years away from being a playoff team again.
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I'm in the minority, but they will get better.CuntWaffle said:
They are years away with him so it doesn't really matterRoadDawg55 said:Not sure. This season will give the answer. I would probably lean towards trade him, but that could also leave the Seahawks years away from being a playoff team again.
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IOW - Great bored selectionYellowSnow said:How dare you, Sir! Please do not defile the sanctity of the game of college football with your NFL hot talk.
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Jake Heaps is available. I hear he will play for cheap. Really give them some salary room to work with.
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Extend himmods?
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Extend himWhat’s the last team that traded a franchise qb in his prime?
I mean if you can get three first rounders from a team with a current top five pick sure. Two mid to low first rounders not a chance. -
Extend himTrading him means trusting that Carrol/Schneider will actually draft another good QB. Not sure about that.
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Trade himSeachickens!!!
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Extend himYeah trade the most decorated qb in your franchise history that has a ring. The OL has been the abomination
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QB's that make more money than Tom Brady. Fun fact: no team has every won a Super Bowl when their QB is making more than $20,000,000
Matt Ryan, $30M
• Kirk Cousins, $28M
• Matthew Stafford, $27M
• Derek Carr, $25M
• Drew Brees, $25M
• Andrew Luck, $24.6M
• Alex Smith, $23.5M
• Joe Flacco, $22.1M
• Aaron Rodgers, $22M
• Russell Wilson, $21.9M
• Ben Roethlisberger, $21.9M
• Eli Manning, $21M
• Philip Rivers, $20.8M
• Cam Newton, $20.8M
• Sam Bradford, $20M
• Ryan Tannehill, $19.3M
• Case Keenum, $18M
• Blake Bortles, $18M
• Andy Dalton, $16M
• Tyrod Taylor, $15.2M
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Flagged for wrong bored
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Extend him
Helps when you have a sugar momma.YellowSnow said:QB's that make more money than Tom Brady. Fun fact: no team has every won a Super Bowl when their QB is making more than $20,000,000
Matt Ryan, $30M
• Kirk Cousins, $28M
• Matthew Stafford, $27M
• Derek Carr, $25M
• Drew Brees, $25M
• Andrew Luck, $24.6M
• Alex Smith, $23.5M
• Joe Flacco, $22.1M
• Aaron Rodgers, $22M
• Russell Wilson, $21.9M
• Ben Roethlisberger, $21.9M
• Eli Manning, $21M
• Philip Rivers, $20.8M
• Cam Newton, $20.8M
• Sam Bradford, $20M
• Ryan Tannehill, $19.3M
• Case Keenum, $18M
• Blake Bortles, $18M
• Andy Dalton, $16M
• Tyrod Taylor, $15.2M
The Broncos spent $19 million on game manager Peyton when they won the ring in 15, which is equivalent to well over 20 under the current cap.
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Trade him
Jay Cutler is the closest thing I guess?HillsboroDuck said:What’s the last team that traded a franchise qb in his prime?
I mean if you can get three first rounders from a team with a current top five pick sure. Two mid to low first rounders not a chance.
Denver to Chicago for Traded for 18th overall pick (Robert Ayers), 3rd round pick (Mike Wallace), 2010 1st round pick (#11 Anthony Davis) and Kyle Orton.
Wilson is obviously better but Denver got 2 first rounders, 3rd rounder and a lower tier starting QB, for Jay "the smoker" Cutler.
Some other teams have traded up and spent a ton of picks to get Goff or RG3 in the past. But russel is 29 and not on a rookie contract -
This is something I've said for a while. You have to go back to 2011 with Brady before his hometown discount and Brees met in the SB to find a team make the super bowl with a top 10 contact. Even Peyton with Denver was a cheap contract relative to the QBs at the time.YellowSnow said:QB's that make more money than Tom Brady. Fun fact: no team has every won a Super Bowl when their QB is making more than $20,000,000
Matt Ryan, $30M
• Kirk Cousins, $28M
• Matthew Stafford, $27M
• Derek Carr, $25M
• Drew Brees, $25M
• Andrew Luck, $24.6M
• Alex Smith, $23.5M
• Joe Flacco, $22.1M
• Aaron Rodgers, $22M
• Russell Wilson, $21.9M
• Ben Roethlisberger, $21.9M
• Eli Manning, $21M
• Philip Rivers, $20.8M
• Cam Newton, $20.8M
• Sam Bradford, $20M
• Ryan Tannehill, $19.3M
• Case Keenum, $18M
• Blake Bortles, $18M
• Andy Dalton, $16M
• Tyrod Taylor, $15.2M
Extend Wilson and sell him on super bowl with additional endorsement money from his concussion proof water is better than making top flight QB money. -
Extend him
Peyton Denver was not cheap.2001400ex said:
This is something I've said for a while. You have to go back to 2011 with Brady before his hometown discount and Brees met in the SB to find a team make the super bowl with a top 10 contact. Even Peyton with Denver was a cheap contract relative to the QBs at the time.YellowSnow said:QB's that make more money than Tom Brady. Fun fact: no team has every won a Super Bowl when their QB is making more than $20,000,000
Matt Ryan, $30M
• Kirk Cousins, $28M
• Matthew Stafford, $27M
• Derek Carr, $25M
• Drew Brees, $25M
• Andrew Luck, $24.6M
• Alex Smith, $23.5M
• Joe Flacco, $22.1M
• Aaron Rodgers, $22M
• Russell Wilson, $21.9M
• Ben Roethlisberger, $21.9M
• Eli Manning, $21M
• Philip Rivers, $20.8M
• Cam Newton, $20.8M
• Sam Bradford, $20M
• Ryan Tannehill, $19.3M
• Case Keenum, $18M
• Blake Bortles, $18M
• Andy Dalton, $16M
• Tyrod Taylor, $15.2M
Extend Wilson and sell him on super bowl with additional endorsement money from his concussion proof water is better than making top flight QB money. -
I don't have time to check. But I'm pretty sure this was not a top 5 contact the 2 super bowl years. I could possibly be wrong the year they played the Seahawks.HillsboroDuck said:
Peyton Denver was not cheap.2001400ex said:
This is something I've said for a while. You have to go back to 2011 with Brady before his hometown discount and Brees met in the SB to find a team make the super bowl with a top 10 contact. Even Peyton with Denver was a cheap contract relative to the QBs at the time.YellowSnow said:QB's that make more money than Tom Brady. Fun fact: no team has every won a Super Bowl when their QB is making more than $20,000,000
Matt Ryan, $30M
• Kirk Cousins, $28M
• Matthew Stafford, $27M
• Derek Carr, $25M
• Drew Brees, $25M
• Andrew Luck, $24.6M
• Alex Smith, $23.5M
• Joe Flacco, $22.1M
• Aaron Rodgers, $22M
• Russell Wilson, $21.9M
• Ben Roethlisberger, $21.9M
• Eli Manning, $21M
• Philip Rivers, $20.8M
• Cam Newton, $20.8M
• Sam Bradford, $20M
• Ryan Tannehill, $19.3M
• Case Keenum, $18M
• Blake Bortles, $18M
• Andy Dalton, $16M
• Tyrod Taylor, $15.2M
Extend Wilson and sell him on super bowl with additional endorsement money from his concussion proof water is better than making top flight QB money.
https://www.denverpost.com/2015/06/24/peyton-manning-contract-2015-and-2016-salary-incentives-in-restructured-deal/?productCode=WebAccessSP -
Extend him
Not top 5 but almost assuredly top ten which is what RW is now2001400ex said:
I don't have time to check. But I'm pretty sure this was not a top 5 contact the 2 super bowl years. I could possibly be wrong the year they played the Seahawks.HillsboroDuck said:
Peyton Denver was not cheap.2001400ex said:
This is something I've said for a while. You have to go back to 2011 with Brady before his hometown discount and Brees met in the SB to find a team make the super bowl with a top 10 contact. Even Peyton with Denver was a cheap contract relative to the QBs at the time.YellowSnow said:QB's that make more money than Tom Brady. Fun fact: no team has every won a Super Bowl when their QB is making more than $20,000,000
Matt Ryan, $30M
• Kirk Cousins, $28M
• Matthew Stafford, $27M
• Derek Carr, $25M
• Drew Brees, $25M
• Andrew Luck, $24.6M
• Alex Smith, $23.5M
• Joe Flacco, $22.1M
• Aaron Rodgers, $22M
• Russell Wilson, $21.9M
• Ben Roethlisberger, $21.9M
• Eli Manning, $21M
• Philip Rivers, $20.8M
• Cam Newton, $20.8M
• Sam Bradford, $20M
• Ryan Tannehill, $19.3M
• Case Keenum, $18M
• Blake Bortles, $18M
• Andy Dalton, $16M
• Tyrod Taylor, $15.2M
Extend Wilson and sell him on super bowl with additional endorsement money from his concussion proof water is better than making top flight QB money.
https://www.denverpost.com/2015/06/24/peyton-manning-contract-2015-and-2016-salary-incentives-in-restructured-deal/?productCode=WebAccessSP -
Don't give a shit about Russell Wilson or the NFL. Boring. College football is a better product by far.
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Extend him
Nuff saidoregonblitzkrieg said:Don't give a shit about Russell Wilson or the NFL. Boring. College football is a better product by far.
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Trade himMoved by me, your favorite alien rape chamber minority.
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Can you name a team that would actually trade 2 first round picks for Wilson currently and be able to pay him and have a roster that is ready to be good quickly? All the garbage teams have basically already invested in a young qb or have a guy on the roster with a huge cap number and that eliminates a lot of teams.
Only one I can really think of that might fit would be Tennessee as they have a Mariota decision to make and no committed money to him. Maybe Tampa. -
Extend him
I deserve this scorn and more.Swaye said:Moved by me, your favorite alien rape chamber minority.
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Trade himBrady cares about WINNING.
Wish other players cared more about winning. -
This is a bigger issue than most make it out to be. The good ol boy network of agents and GM's decided teams need to pay huge money to "franchise QB's." The left tackle bullshit, hiring re-treads, etc. The common way NFL teams think has been proven stupid many times. Every professional sports league is somewhat innovative except the NFL.YellowSnow said:QB's that make more money than Tom Brady. Fun fact: no team has every won a Super Bowl when their QB is making more than $20,000,000
Matt Ryan, $30M
• Kirk Cousins, $28M
• Matthew Stafford, $27M
• Derek Carr, $25M
• Drew Brees, $25M
• Andrew Luck, $24.6M
• Alex Smith, $23.5M
• Joe Flacco, $22.1M
• Aaron Rodgers, $22M
• Russell Wilson, $21.9M
• Ben Roethlisberger, $21.9M
• Eli Manning, $21M
• Philip Rivers, $20.8M
• Cam Newton, $20.8M
• Sam Bradford, $20M
• Ryan Tannehill, $19.3M
• Case Keenum, $18M
• Blake Bortles, $18M
• Andy Dalton, $16M
• Tyrod Taylor, $15.2M
The real way to win seems to be hitting on a QB through the draft. Paying less than 10 million on a QB allows you to stack your team. You can't have a truly deep, talented team paying a QB 25-30 million unless you draft amazing.
The teams with these franchise QB's always falter when injuries hit. Many of the guys on this list aren't even anything special.
Eagles, Rams, Chiefs, even the Bears (on defense) are doing it right. The Seahawks and 49ers did it right when they were the two best teams in the league.
