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OT: trade or extend Russell Wilson?

Gladstone
Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
Fuck the NFL. Call it a mild curiosity.

OT: trade or extend Russell Wilson? 37 votes

Trade him
59%
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Extend him
40%
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Comments

  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    Not sure. This season will give the answer. I would probably lean towards trade him, but that could also leave the Seahawks years away from being a playoff team again.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123

    Not sure. This season will give the answer. I would probably lean towards trade him, but that could also leave the Seahawks years away from being a playoff team again.

    They are years away with him so it doesn't really matter
    I'm in the minority, but they will get better.
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club

    How dare you, Sir! Please do not defile the sanctity of the game of college football with your NFL hot talk.

    IOW - Great bored selection
  • Bread
    Bread Member Posts: 4,067
    Jake Heaps is available. I hear he will play for cheap. Really give them some salary room to work with.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Extend him
    mods?
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    Extend him
    What’s the last team that traded a franchise qb in his prime?

    I mean if you can get three first rounders from a team with a current top five pick sure. Two mid to low first rounders not a chance.
  • El_K
    El_K Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,484 Swaye's Wigwam
    Trade him
    Seachickens!!!
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    edited September 2018
    Extend him
    Yeah trade the most decorated qb in your franchise history that has a ring. The OL has been the abomination
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,205 Founders Club
    QB's that make more money than Tom Brady. Fun fact: no team has every won a Super Bowl when their QB is making more than $20,000,000

    Matt Ryan, $30M
    • Kirk Cousins, $28M
    • Matthew Stafford, $27M
    • Derek Carr, $25M
    • Drew Brees, $25M
    • Andrew Luck, $24.6M
    • Alex Smith, $23.5M
    • Joe Flacco, $22.1M
    • Aaron Rodgers, $22M
    • Russell Wilson, $21.9M
    • Ben Roethlisberger, $21.9M
    • Eli Manning, $21M
    • Philip Rivers, $20.8M
    • Cam Newton, $20.8M
    • Sam Bradford, $20M
    • Ryan Tannehill, $19.3M
    • Case Keenum, $18M
    • Blake Bortles, $18M
    • Andy Dalton, $16M
    • Tyrod Taylor, $15.2M


  • Baphomet
    Baphomet Member Posts: 1,511
    Flagged for wrong bored
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    Trade him

    What’s the last team that traded a franchise qb in his prime?

    I mean if you can get three first rounders from a team with a current top five pick sure. Two mid to low first rounders not a chance.

    Jay Cutler is the closest thing I guess?

    Denver to Chicago for Traded for 18th overall pick (Robert Ayers), 3rd round pick (Mike Wallace), 2010 1st round pick (#11 Anthony Davis) and Kyle Orton.

    Wilson is obviously better but Denver got 2 first rounders, 3rd rounder and a lower tier starting QB, for Jay "the smoker" Cutler.

    Some other teams have traded up and spent a ton of picks to get Goff or RG3 in the past. But russel is 29 and not on a rookie contract
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    QB's that make more money than Tom Brady. Fun fact: no team has every won a Super Bowl when their QB is making more than $20,000,000

    Matt Ryan, $30M
    • Kirk Cousins, $28M
    • Matthew Stafford, $27M
    • Derek Carr, $25M
    • Drew Brees, $25M
    • Andrew Luck, $24.6M
    • Alex Smith, $23.5M
    • Joe Flacco, $22.1M
    • Aaron Rodgers, $22M
    • Russell Wilson, $21.9M
    • Ben Roethlisberger, $21.9M
    • Eli Manning, $21M
    • Philip Rivers, $20.8M
    • Cam Newton, $20.8M
    • Sam Bradford, $20M
    • Ryan Tannehill, $19.3M
    • Case Keenum, $18M
    • Blake Bortles, $18M
    • Andy Dalton, $16M
    • Tyrod Taylor, $15.2M


    This is something I've said for a while. You have to go back to 2011 with Brady before his hometown discount and Brees met in the SB to find a team make the super bowl with a top 10 contact. Even Peyton with Denver was a cheap contract relative to the QBs at the time.

    Extend Wilson and sell him on super bowl with additional endorsement money from his concussion proof water is better than making top flight QB money.
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    Extend him
    2001400ex said:

    QB's that make more money than Tom Brady. Fun fact: no team has every won a Super Bowl when their QB is making more than $20,000,000

    Matt Ryan, $30M
    • Kirk Cousins, $28M
    • Matthew Stafford, $27M
    • Derek Carr, $25M
    • Drew Brees, $25M
    • Andrew Luck, $24.6M
    • Alex Smith, $23.5M
    • Joe Flacco, $22.1M
    • Aaron Rodgers, $22M
    • Russell Wilson, $21.9M
    • Ben Roethlisberger, $21.9M
    • Eli Manning, $21M
    • Philip Rivers, $20.8M
    • Cam Newton, $20.8M
    • Sam Bradford, $20M
    • Ryan Tannehill, $19.3M
    • Case Keenum, $18M
    • Blake Bortles, $18M
    • Andy Dalton, $16M
    • Tyrod Taylor, $15.2M


    This is something I've said for a while. You have to go back to 2011 with Brady before his hometown discount and Brees met in the SB to find a team make the super bowl with a top 10 contact. Even Peyton with Denver was a cheap contract relative to the QBs at the time.

    Extend Wilson and sell him on super bowl with additional endorsement money from his concussion proof water is better than making top flight QB money.
    Peyton Denver was not cheap.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    QB's that make more money than Tom Brady. Fun fact: no team has every won a Super Bowl when their QB is making more than $20,000,000

    Matt Ryan, $30M
    • Kirk Cousins, $28M
    • Matthew Stafford, $27M
    • Derek Carr, $25M
    • Drew Brees, $25M
    • Andrew Luck, $24.6M
    • Alex Smith, $23.5M
    • Joe Flacco, $22.1M
    • Aaron Rodgers, $22M
    • Russell Wilson, $21.9M
    • Ben Roethlisberger, $21.9M
    • Eli Manning, $21M
    • Philip Rivers, $20.8M
    • Cam Newton, $20.8M
    • Sam Bradford, $20M
    • Ryan Tannehill, $19.3M
    • Case Keenum, $18M
    • Blake Bortles, $18M
    • Andy Dalton, $16M
    • Tyrod Taylor, $15.2M


    This is something I've said for a while. You have to go back to 2011 with Brady before his hometown discount and Brees met in the SB to find a team make the super bowl with a top 10 contact. Even Peyton with Denver was a cheap contract relative to the QBs at the time.

    Extend Wilson and sell him on super bowl with additional endorsement money from his concussion proof water is better than making top flight QB money.
    Peyton Denver was not cheap.
    I don't have time to check. But I'm pretty sure this was not a top 5 contact the 2 super bowl years. I could possibly be wrong the year they played the Seahawks.

    https://www.denverpost.com/2015/06/24/peyton-manning-contract-2015-and-2016-salary-incentives-in-restructured-deal/?productCode=WebAccessSP
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    edited September 2018
    Extend him
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    QB's that make more money than Tom Brady. Fun fact: no team has every won a Super Bowl when their QB is making more than $20,000,000

    Matt Ryan, $30M
    • Kirk Cousins, $28M
    • Matthew Stafford, $27M
    • Derek Carr, $25M
    • Drew Brees, $25M
    • Andrew Luck, $24.6M
    • Alex Smith, $23.5M
    • Joe Flacco, $22.1M
    • Aaron Rodgers, $22M
    • Russell Wilson, $21.9M
    • Ben Roethlisberger, $21.9M
    • Eli Manning, $21M
    • Philip Rivers, $20.8M
    • Cam Newton, $20.8M
    • Sam Bradford, $20M
    • Ryan Tannehill, $19.3M
    • Case Keenum, $18M
    • Blake Bortles, $18M
    • Andy Dalton, $16M
    • Tyrod Taylor, $15.2M


    This is something I've said for a while. You have to go back to 2011 with Brady before his hometown discount and Brees met in the SB to find a team make the super bowl with a top 10 contact. Even Peyton with Denver was a cheap contract relative to the QBs at the time.

    Extend Wilson and sell him on super bowl with additional endorsement money from his concussion proof water is better than making top flight QB money.
    Peyton Denver was not cheap.
    I don't have time to check. But I'm pretty sure this was not a top 5 contact the 2 super bowl years. I could possibly be wrong the year they played the Seahawks.

    https://www.denverpost.com/2015/06/24/peyton-manning-contract-2015-and-2016-salary-incentives-in-restructured-deal/?productCode=WebAccessSP
    Not top 5 but almost assuredly top ten which is what RW is now
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Extend him

    Don't give a shit about Russell Wilson or the NFL. Boring. College football is a better product by far.

    Nuff said
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,623 Founders Club
    Can you name a team that would actually trade 2 first round picks for Wilson currently and be able to pay him and have a roster that is ready to be good quickly? All the garbage teams have basically already invested in a young qb or have a guy on the roster with a huge cap number and that eliminates a lot of teams.

    Only one I can really think of that might fit would be Tennessee as they have a Mariota decision to make and no committed money to him. Maybe Tampa.
  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
    Extend him
    Swaye said:

    Moved by me, your favorite alien rape chamber minority.

    I deserve this scorn and more.
  • PineapplePirate
    PineapplePirate Member Posts: 4,628
    Trade him
    Brady cares about WINNING.

    Wish other players cared more about winning.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    edited September 2018

    QB's that make more money than Tom Brady. Fun fact: no team has every won a Super Bowl when their QB is making more than $20,000,000

    Matt Ryan, $30M
    • Kirk Cousins, $28M
    • Matthew Stafford, $27M
    • Derek Carr, $25M
    • Drew Brees, $25M
    • Andrew Luck, $24.6M
    • Alex Smith, $23.5M
    • Joe Flacco, $22.1M
    • Aaron Rodgers, $22M
    • Russell Wilson, $21.9M
    • Ben Roethlisberger, $21.9M
    • Eli Manning, $21M
    • Philip Rivers, $20.8M
    • Cam Newton, $20.8M
    • Sam Bradford, $20M
    • Ryan Tannehill, $19.3M
    • Case Keenum, $18M
    • Blake Bortles, $18M
    • Andy Dalton, $16M
    • Tyrod Taylor, $15.2M


    This is a bigger issue than most make it out to be. The good ol boy network of agents and GM's decided teams need to pay huge money to "franchise QB's." The left tackle bullshit, hiring re-treads, etc. The common way NFL teams think has been proven stupid many times. Every professional sports league is somewhat innovative except the NFL.

    The real way to win seems to be hitting on a QB through the draft. Paying less than 10 million on a QB allows you to stack your team. You can't have a truly deep, talented team paying a QB 25-30 million unless you draft amazing.

    The teams with these franchise QB's always falter when injuries hit. Many of the guys on this list aren't even anything special.

    Eagles, Rams, Chiefs, even the Bears (on defense) are doing it right. The Seahawks and 49ers did it right when they were the two best teams in the league.