RIP America, 1776-2013

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

CollegeDoog said:

RaceBannon said:

CollegeDoog said:

All the problems in the black community can be directly tied to poverty. Poverty can be tied to the legacy of slavery and everything leading up to the civil rights movement in 1964. That's my argument.

The black community isn't exempt from blame, but the institutional history of the United States is very much responsible.

And to equate what asians or other immigrants have been able to do in the US compared to blacks is silly.

Why? It's relevant and it is you that took the underclass to mean Blacks not me. The underclass ismulti cultural.

You also missed that it is after the civil rights movement that the family began to disintegrate. Generation welfare is more damaging that what happened generations ago.

Jesse Jackson used to have it right - be a victor not a victim. Be somebody. His degeneration into a shakedown artist is truly sad.

Your white pity isn't helping here. Holding people to a standard of behavior does help. Irregardless of the mute point of what fucking color they are

You want to take the gloves off Race? You want to get down into a pissing match? Let's do it. Let's roll.

The fact of the matter is racism is still alive and well today. It may not be as visible on the west coast as it is in the middle of country or east coast, but it is apparent to me.

In 2013, 50 years after the March on Washington, being a black person in America still sucks. Look at their unequal treatment in the justice system as an example. The lack of opportunity in the job marketplace. Go to any fast food joint, airport, a place where the majority of workers are African American. These jobs aren't easy and they're low paying, so don't argue that blacks lack initiative. They're stuck in this economic quagmire because of a shitty education system and institutionalized racism in the job marketplace.

And to bring any of these problems up; problems that are a direct result of America's ugly racial past is labeled as "White guilt"? Hi @TierbsHsotBoobs!

"The implication is that there is something hypocritical and shameful about pointing out the failings of white America, after having profited from its advantages."

Fuck White guilt. What you all are engaging in is White blame.

50 years after the March on Washington, the avenues for success for Black Americans are still much narrower than us Whites and a failure to acknowledge this perpetuates the problem.

Instead it's a deeper fear that Blacks will enjoy the same fruits that we've enjoyed. Any sort of equality is viewed as compensation.

"What white people fear, at bottom, is retribution. This is why discussion of actual injustice is supposed to be off-limits. Despite the glorious principles spelled out 50 years ago on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, they lack a functioning concept of justice. To admit the harms of the past is to invite payback."

So I'm not going to fall into that trap. I'm not going to feel shame for bringing up these issues. I'm not going to fall for false equivalencies with other races that dishonestly convey the greater problem.

Fuck white guilt, fuck white blame, fuck you, fuck me, fuck everyone.


-Tequilla, with a Foreword by Passion

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I like you CDoog, but you're off. I went to a h.s. that was 30-35% black and had two black principals and a black a.p. There wasn't much institutionalized racism. I saw a lot of unruly, apathetic kids from fucked up families. I have no idea what the solution is, but the guilty white liberal solution was a total failure...and this is is coming from a center left white guy.

When blickswho study hard and try to better themselves are called uncle toms by their own, there's a major dysfunctional problem within the community.

pawz said:

CollegeDoog said:

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pawz said:

CollegeDoog said:

In 2013, 50 years after the March on Washington, being a black person in America still sucks. Look at their unequal treatment in the justice system as an example. The lack of opportunity in the job marketplace. Go to any fast food joint, airport, a place where the majority of workers are African American. These jobs aren't easy and they're low paying, so don't argue that blacks lack initiative. They're stuck in this economic quagmire because of a shitty education system and institutionalized racism in the job marketplace.

What happened to the idea that it is incumbent upon the individual to create their own opportunity? It's always somebody else's fault ...

You act as tho the impoverished (red, yellow, blick) are owed opportunity. You are only owed opportunity to the degree that you go out and create it for yourself. You can't get anything worthwhile by demand.

The real reason the impoverished don't create opportunity is because the "shitty education system" only teaches people how to be the cunt hairs of the 1%. They teach that you are owed something by the man and entitled. The shitty education system has lulled American's into believing they deserve something for nothing.

HillsboroDoog is correct, the great American experiment is dead.

You missed the whole fucking point. I never said Black people can't create their own opportunity. They can. There are thousands of examples.

However, the system is setup so much fewer African Americans have a chance to know they can create opportunity. This comes back to institutionalized racism liberalism and entitlement.

Fixed that for you.

CuntWaffle said:

CollegeDoog said:

All the problems in the black community can be directly tied to poverty. Poverty can be tied to the legacy of slavery and everything leading up to the civil rights movement in 1964. That's my argument.

The black community isn't exempt from blame, but the institutional history of the United States is very much responsible.

And to equate what asians or other immigrants have been able to do in the US compared to blacks is silly.

Lol and you are a "moderate" right? Christ.