Study: Earth was warmer in Roman, Medieval times

MikeDamone said:

CollegeDoog said:

CuntWaffle said:

CollegeDoog said:

Up here at 30,000 feet posting on my phone I can't address your post how I'd like to but a couple points:

1. The politicization of the issue is sad but both sides are guilty of it. Instead of trying to resolve the issue they're caught up in a game of semantics going nowhere.

2. One hurricane season isn't isolated? El Oh Fucking El. We've literally seen unprecedented hurricanes, tornadoes, and snowstorms over the last 15 years and you use this hurricane season to counter that? C'mon man. Plus that Typhoon (which is the same fucking thing as a hurricane happened this year).

3. So because other countries aren't stopping means it's ok for us to continue on a path of belligerence? I miss America the world leader dammit!

Jesus Christ, no. Nothing is fucking happening. Weather goes in cycles, people only started noticing all this shit when libs were screaming "LOOK!!! HURRICANE!! CAUSED BY GLOBA.... ehh heh... CLIMATE CHANGE." When the weather has a stretch of being extremely mild will the excuse be "Even Climate Change has down time" ??

There is a mountain of scientific evidence supporting climate change. Just because some people exaggerated it for political purposes doesn't debunk the years and years of research and scientific support.

When did Americans become so fucking polarized and shallow?

So what if the climate changes? It's changed several times and will continue to do so, with us or without us. The poles will eventually reverse again, and we are in fact due for that to happen. Someday, the sun will start to become a red giant and burn the solar system to ashes. The planet is active and changing. We simply happen to be here at a time that is hospitable to supporting life. Right now it's just a mater of people fighting over control and money. There are billions and maybe trillions at stake as well as government control of the people. Of course there will be a fight.

RaceBannon said:

A warm earth is better for us. So we have that going for us which is nice. None of us want to give up the great life carbon gives us. That's my complaint- I don't like making it more expensive for no practical reason. Or even five reasons.

The oil companies that are villified will be the companies that actually succeed in alt energy because they will make it profitable. I mock Gore because he represents a movement that squanders billions on losers like Solandra.

Two things that will never be free - healthcare and energy

RaceBannon said:

A cold earth is far worse. Death disease and starvation.

Are you comparing this to pre-1900 temperatures? Couldn't that also be attributed to the lack of disease preventing medicines?

Ocean acidification is probably over blown at this point. As far as we know there have never been as many humans alive on earth as there are now. The mini ice age was a killer. And not all that long ago.

Fair enough

The end of oil is another often wrongly predicted event. A little more real world experience will show you that too.

Oil reserves are depleting. This is fact. Production has peaked within the last10 years and literally every study shows that by 2050 we are fucked.



Alarmists have always been with us and the young are most susceptible to them.

Low tweak

I'd bet Sven's 20 bucks oil companies and other corps are indeed planning for the next thing.

That's speculation. The investment figures show a minimal effort to find alternatives

There is carbon is space. Its just so damn efficient. We are carbon beings in a carbon universe

PRedoubt said:

CollegeDoog said:

CuntWaffle said:

Race logic isn't really a strong point for these boreds. Just say there is overwhelming evidence yet not poast a link, that is how this baby operates/

Ok. How about an independent study that found skeptics' claims unfounded?

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=three-quarters-of-climate

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15373071

http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/21/world/americas/climate-study-warming-real/index.html

Here are some graphs








I particularly like this one because there have been posts recently about the ice returning. If you look at the overall trend this anomaly has happened in the past, but the overall decline continues.



There's plenty more beyond this.

CollegeDoog said:

RaceBannon said:

A warm earth is better for us. So we have that going for us which is nice. None of us want to give up the great life carbon gives us. That's my complaint- I don't like making it more expensive for no practical reason. Or even five reasons.

The oil companies that are villified will be the companies that actually succeed in alt energy because they will make it profitable. I mock Gore because he represents a movement that squanders billions on losers like Solandra.

Two things that will never be free - healthcare and energy

Ocean Acidification disagrees. In fact, there are numerous consequences of a warmer earth.


The problem is the great life carbon gives us is coming to an end. It is practical to find renewable solutions for long term health of not just the energy industry but mankind.

Agree on the last part. Look at Tesla as an example. Exxon's foray into Algae research shows that is also in line with your statement. http://oilprice.com/Alternative-Energy/Biofuels/Exxons-100m-Algae-Investment-Falls-Flat.html

But the problem is these big companies are still, for the most part, ignoring it, paving the way for an energy crisis.

Hey dipshit, would you believe NASA?
naturalnews.com/040448_solar_radiation_global_warming_debunked.html