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This is why I get irritated when people freak the fuck out about the coaches not offering some in-state guys before their Junior seasons which for most of them would mean taking their commitments immediately as Freshman or Sophomores. There are always fucking amazing hidden gems that come out of the fucking woodwork down the road after their Junior season or even their Senior season and sometimes they're way more fucking talented than other guys at their position who are highly rated as Freshman and Sophomores.
Case in point this motherfucker: Ethan Zemla, ILB, Valor Christian, Littleton, CO, 6'3 220, 3*:
This kid has the frame that everybody wants, sideline to sideline speed, and great instincts. He's still under the radar and doesn't have any big offers (at least none that show up in the 247 database). Looks like Nebraska and UCLA are recruiting him under the radar. He's also smart and has Ivy league offers. Just a total stud with NFL talent but is rated a lowly 3* whereas Maninoa Tufuno was rated damn near a 5* at one point and looks like hot shit now and some of you wanted the coaches to take him badly a couple weeks ago. Zemla reminds me of Leighton Vander Esch and if I'm being honest and objective I would take him over Miki Ah You in a heart beat and I like Ah You.
https://247sports.com/player/ethan-zemla-46047851
https://hudl.com/video/3/3104800/59de4dee7bd2d011dc78d294
You also have a guy like OT Cal Frank, 6'7 285, Oaks Christian, CA, 3*:
Frank is a really good looking athlete and a high upside LT prospect. He's new to the sport of football but a stud rugby player. Schools like Cal, UCLA, and Nebraska are on him and he's visited UW so our coaches are aware of him as well. When I said Buelow waiting till the Poly bowl to commit could cost him his spot with UW I wasn't bullshitting. A high upside guy like this is why I said that. Frank is easily a better athlete than Buelow right now. If he has a big Senior season UW could pull the trigger on him and take him over Buelow.
https://hudl.com/video/3/4877585/59b81a5dff0bca0d80f431c2
I also still love this kid Ryan Franke, OLB, 6'4 210-220, Oaks Christian, CA, 3*, Oregon State commit:
https://hudl.com/video/3/5414559/5a73fa3532dc5f0d1442e8fa
If the coaches did what some of you wanted them to do we'd have Justus Legg (in-state kid, rated a 4* as a Sophomore) and Maninoa Tufuno (UW legacy, rated a 4*) committed right now and we'd all be pissed and wanting them to be dropped. The coaches have to take their time offering guys so they don't fuck up and A. take a kid who turns out to be shit or B. miss out on an NFL talent who's under the radar and better than other more highly rated guys in consideration.
This is also why I get fucking irritated when the stupid stars debate comes up or all these idiot quooks beat their chests over star ratings. College football recruiting is not about recruiting as many stars as possible. It's about bringing in NFL TALENT! Sometimes that NFL talent is accurately rated as 4 or 5 stars. Sometimes it's not and it's rated 3 stars. Sometimes guys are massively overrated and are not NFL talents at all but are inaccurately rated 4 stars (most of Oregon's 4-star commits). Alabama is winning the national title every other year not because the guys they're signing are rated 4 and 5 stars. But because those guys have NFL talent and are ACCURATELY rated as 4 and 5 stars. I don't give a fuck how many stars a guy has. I just want NFL talent.
That Zemla kid needs to be offered right fucking now. His film is amazing.
Case in point this motherfucker: Ethan Zemla, ILB, Valor Christian, Littleton, CO, 6'3 220, 3*:
This kid has the frame that everybody wants, sideline to sideline speed, and great instincts. He's still under the radar and doesn't have any big offers (at least none that show up in the 247 database). Looks like Nebraska and UCLA are recruiting him under the radar. He's also smart and has Ivy league offers. Just a total stud with NFL talent but is rated a lowly 3* whereas Maninoa Tufuno was rated damn near a 5* at one point and looks like hot shit now and some of you wanted the coaches to take him badly a couple weeks ago. Zemla reminds me of Leighton Vander Esch and if I'm being honest and objective I would take him over Miki Ah You in a heart beat and I like Ah You.
https://247sports.com/player/ethan-zemla-46047851
https://hudl.com/video/3/3104800/59de4dee7bd2d011dc78d294
You also have a guy like OT Cal Frank, 6'7 285, Oaks Christian, CA, 3*:
Frank is a really good looking athlete and a high upside LT prospect. He's new to the sport of football but a stud rugby player. Schools like Cal, UCLA, and Nebraska are on him and he's visited UW so our coaches are aware of him as well. When I said Buelow waiting till the Poly bowl to commit could cost him his spot with UW I wasn't bullshitting. A high upside guy like this is why I said that. Frank is easily a better athlete than Buelow right now. If he has a big Senior season UW could pull the trigger on him and take him over Buelow.
https://hudl.com/video/3/4877585/59b81a5dff0bca0d80f431c2
I also still love this kid Ryan Franke, OLB, 6'4 210-220, Oaks Christian, CA, 3*, Oregon State commit:
https://hudl.com/video/3/5414559/5a73fa3532dc5f0d1442e8fa
If the coaches did what some of you wanted them to do we'd have Justus Legg (in-state kid, rated a 4* as a Sophomore) and Maninoa Tufuno (UW legacy, rated a 4*) committed right now and we'd all be pissed and wanting them to be dropped. The coaches have to take their time offering guys so they don't fuck up and A. take a kid who turns out to be shit or B. miss out on an NFL talent who's under the radar and better than other more highly rated guys in consideration.
This is also why I get fucking irritated when the stupid stars debate comes up or all these idiot quooks beat their chests over star ratings. College football recruiting is not about recruiting as many stars as possible. It's about bringing in NFL TALENT! Sometimes that NFL talent is accurately rated as 4 or 5 stars. Sometimes it's not and it's rated 3 stars. Sometimes guys are massively overrated and are not NFL talents at all but are inaccurately rated 4 stars (most of Oregon's 4-star commits). Alabama is winning the national title every other year not because the guys they're signing are rated 4 and 5 stars. But because those guys have NFL talent and are ACCURATELY rated as 4 and 5 stars. I don't give a fuck how many stars a guy has. I just want NFL talent.
That Zemla kid needs to be offered right fucking now. His film is amazing.
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I can't handle the ups and downs.
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Good analysis by Zelma's dad
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Why do you say Tufuno sucks ass now?
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This argument would be more compelling if we? didn’t actually offer Tufono early. It didn’t hurt us.
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Except Tufuno is an out-of-state kid. If he was an in-state kid, rated as one of the top ILB out West, playing at Eastside Catholic, and an FSP guy, it would be a really bad look for him to not have a committable offer at this point. I'm sure that would rub his high school coach and Tracy Ford the wrong way. Granted Darien Chase is technically an in-state kid without a committable offer right now but he's all the way down in Vancouver and he's originally from Oregon.dnc said:This argument would be more compelling if we? didn’t actually offer Tufono early. It didn’t hurt us.
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No one is reading that many words from StrongBad.
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WOOOOO Jacob Bandes is an OKG BABAAAAAY! YEAAAAAH BUUDAAAAY! #1 rated DT out West and the DL MVP at the Opening! WOOOOOOO GET YOU SOME OF THAT! TAIMANI, LETULIGASENOA, PA'AMA, and BANDES! D-LINE HOGS WOOOOO! More to come!Mosster47 said:No one is reading that many words from StrongBad.
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i might need a walk for some perspective caz ballz making too much sense right now
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Three white guys?
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Fuck Oaks Christian. Pussy church school, pussy football players.
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Zemla looks at least half Asian. He's the Taylor Rapp of inside backers.Dennis_DeYoung said:Three white guys?
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Zach Charbonnet? Kayvon Thibadeaux? Joshua Calvert?EsophagealFeces said:Fuck Oaks Christian. Pussy church school, pussy football players.
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Pussy, Pussy, Pussy. I love pussy.StrongArmCobra said:
Zach Charbonnet? Kayvon Thibadeaux? Joshua Calvert?EsophagealFeces said:Fuck Oaks Christian. Pussy church school, pussy football players.
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This thread was his roundabout way of answering the question of What's an OKG?Dennis_DeYoung said:Three white guys?
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his?joeEDangerously said:
This thread was his roundabout way of answering the question of What's an OKG?Dennis_DeYoung said:Three white guys?
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OPdnc said:
his?joeEDangerously said:
This thread was his roundabout way of answering the question of What's an OKG?Dennis_DeYoung said:Three white guys?
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The one thing I've learned since Rob Mullens didn't hire Peet and whoever the fuck UW's AD is these days did, is that winning allows halfbrains to tolerate the absolute dumbest motherfucking doogs on the face of the earth. But I can't say shit.
I can't say "You are the dumbest piece of shit hypocrites on the face of the earth to swallow this bullshit doog garbage on a daily basis and ask for more" because 70-21. I can't call out the stupid fucking double standard idiocy because UW has led the conference in scoring and total defense 3 years in a fucking row. I can't say Zemla looks like he's running in lead boots. I can't say Gaines is going to be shit this year because he won't have the best fucking NT in the nation making him look good anymore. I can't say any of that shit.
Fuck you.
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1. Petersen was never going to take the Oregon job. Part of his whole OKG shit is recruiting kids who care about school and attracting as many highly talented smart guys as possible. Oregon doesn't have a prestigious enough degree to attract those high academic kids.dtd said:The one thing I've learned since Rob Mullens didn't hire Peet and whoever the fuck UW's AD is these days did, is that winning allows halfbrains to tolerate the absolute dumbest motherfucking doogs on the face of the earth. But I can't say shit.
I can't say "You are the dumbest piece of shit hypocrites on the face of the earth to swallow this bullshit doog garbage on a daily basis and ask for more" because 70-21. I can't call out the stupid fucking double standard idiocy because UW has led the conference in scoring and total defense 3 years in a fucking row. I can't say Zemla looks like he's running in lead boots. I can't say Gaines is going to be shit this year because he won't have the best fucking NT in the nation making him look good anymore. I can't say any of that shit.
Fuck you.
Fuck me.
Fuck EVERYONE.
2. Where's the hypocrisy? When Oregon was kicking UW's ass every year no UW fans were questioning Chip Kelly's recruiting when he mixed in a bunch of 3 star guys with his 4 star guys in every class. He recruited guys that fit his system and profile while ignoring star ratings and it fucking worked. That's what Petersen has always done as well and it's working for him as well.
3. You clearly know dick about football talent. The only inside backers I've seen out West this class with similar sideline to sideline speed as Zemla are Daniel Heimuli and Henry To'oto'o. He'll be a fast riser his Senior year.
4. Gaines was a stud and a starter before Vea was anything more than a rotational back up going back to when Gaines was a RS Freshman.
There's nothing Vea ever did to help Gaines when Gaines was taking double teams. The thought that Vea somehow made Gaines look better than he actually was is retarted. -
Mosster is legitimately bothered by this post even though Bandes would never even think about going to Arizona.StrongArmCobra said:
WOOOOO Jacob Bandes is an OKG BABAAAAAY! YEAAAAAH BUUDAAAAY! #1 rated DT out West and the DL MVP at the Opening! WOOOOOOO GET YOU SOME OF THAT! TAIMANI, LETULIGASENOA, PA'AMA, and BANDES! D-LINE HOGS WOOOOO! More to come!Mosster47 said:No one is reading that many words from StrongBad.
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You're about three steps below StrongBad.haie said:
Mosster is legitimately bothered by this post even though Bandes would never even think about going to Arizona.StrongArmCobra said:
WOOOOO Jacob Bandes is an OKG BABAAAAAY! YEAAAAAH BUUDAAAAY! #1 rated DT out West and the DL MVP at the Opening! WOOOOOOO GET YOU SOME OF THAT! TAIMANI, LETULIGASENOA, PA'AMA, and BANDES! D-LINE HOGS WOOOOO! More to come!Mosster47 said:No one is reading that many words from StrongBad.
Do better.
