Maybe Dems are starting to _get it_
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The dumbest argument is that Hillary won the popular vote.
Neither candidate was trying to win the popular vote because that's not what matters or they would campaign drastically differently.
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I'm not really a Bernie fan.Southerndawg said:
You really are delusional. Hondo territory.Baseman said:
Hillary had negative appeal. That’s the point. We were fucked from the beginning.Southerndawg said:
I think you completely missed the point of the last election, and bringing up debate tactics is a sure sign. Trump "debated" 16 establishment Republicans before "debating" his former "friend" on the way to the White House. Here's a hint, It wasn't his mad teleprompter skills that got him elected.Baseman said:
A circus chimp would have faired better with the voters than HillaryPitchfork51 said:
No.Baseman said:
Good luck on that. Hillary was an easy mark. Her email lies were fresh in voters minds. The majority of the nation had enough of her shit.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Would rather see Trump destroy a communist like Bernie in debate.RaceBannon said:Joe Biden v Trump in a debate would have been gold
No way Trumps gets away with the same debate tactics against another candidate. Regardless of your persuasion, Biden or the Bern would have torn Trump a new asshole.
The swing voters that gave Trump the election were the lower middle class, who previously ushered the Clintons into the White House, only to see their jobs go down their shitter and their houses foreclosed on when the financial crisis came.
Then they learned Goldman Sachs, at the forefront of financial manipulation that brought the whole show down, made hundreds of billions on the other side of the trade, profits out of which paid Billary $500,000 speaking fees. Consulting deals. Shadowy foundation contributions.
“ a sizable chunk of Obama-Trump voters — 30 percent — said their vote for Trump was more a vote against Clinton than a vote for Trump. Remember, these voters backed Obama four years earlier.”
The realistic Republicans are now quaking in their boots. America doesn’t have Hillary to kick around any more. The narrow margin that catapulted Trump into the White House is in dire peril with no signs of a turnaround.
Sure, unemployment is down. Wages are flat. Inflation is up. Let’s not even talk Tarrifs.
Tax cuts are swell. Stock markets are up, corporate profits soaring. Wall Street and the Uber, partying like its 1999.
So, says the factory worker and coal miner, where’s mine?
Their president, the one they voted for, thinks $92 million for a fucking military parade is a great idea. America first? Where’s my fucking raise, dude?
There’s no wall. No construction. The base gave thumbs up for supporting the very fine people in the south, even if our tuff president couldn’t keep the man from taking our beautiful history. Hell ya for the fuck you to the rainbowers and blacks, especially those that kneel on Sunday’s. It’s all very good, it’s all very fine, but Mr. President, I haven’t got even an extra dime.
Signed,
Disenfranchised in West Virginia.
Feeling cheated in Ohio.
Worried in Wisconsin.
I like the Bern in this one. It won’t be close.
Hillary was replaced by.... No one
Who the fuck is even a leader in the Democrat party?
Pelosi? Warren? Maxine the cunt?!
Somehow instead of coming up with a strong response to Trump they've slunk into the shadows
Hillary's "appeal" was highly concentrated and limited to primarily coastal areas and urban centers. She did, after all, get more popular votes than Donald Trump, but she was completely steam rolled by the electoral vote, the only vote tally that counts in a presidential election. We live in a Republic that is designed to specifically protect the minority from the runaway excesses and mob rule of simple majority democracies. She and your party were and continue to be completely dismissive and tone deaf to the people who ultimately put Trump in the White House. Fix that, then pop off.
If beating Jeb Bush and Lyin Ted Cruz is winning, whatever.gif
Thanks for breaking down the electoral college for me. If you had reading comprehension skills, you might have picked up on the states that sealed the deal for Trump (Michigan, too)
Fuck the partisan semantics. If you can’t see Trump has lost the voters that gave him the White House (not buying the Russian hype) then I can’t help you. * Hint: expect to see the military parade, Trumps wish even if it doesn’t happen, in commercials—replayed, over and over—with the price tag and wage growth, side by side.
If you can’t see the Bern or a candidate with similar ideals, won’t capitalize on the current state of affairs in 2020, prepare to see this bumped. If not, you have all the screen shots you need.
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I don;'t hate Bernie but he lost any chance to be President when he laid down like a bitch and let Hillary insert the strap on full depth
First he gave away his best issue when he said he didn't care about her emails, then he didn't say shit when proof came out that she was colluding with everyone to rig the primaries. He kept winning votes and losing delegates. There was concrete proof thanks to the dumbass who got phished.
Bernie supporters took it up the ass too because they hate Trump more than they like Bernie
The dems can take his message forward but they need a new face. But don't take my advice -
Unfortunately it's pretty much inevitable that they eventually win. The future Americans don't like freedom. The Dems understand this and it's why keeping the border open is one of their main priorities. California once voted for Ronald Reagan lol.oregonblitzkrieg said:Freedom knows which side to be on and which side to oppose at this point in history. Your side is the enemy of freedom, the enemy of the founders' ideals, and it's going down in flames one way or another. I'll say it again, clean your own house before it gets cleaned for you. Your side in its current form won't be permitted to rule and destroy the nation.
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Trump won the popular vote dumbfuck. Illegal Mexican votes don't count.Pitchfork51 said:The dumbest argument is that Hillary won the popular vote.
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Bern ain't winning in 2020. Period. Mark it down in ink and take all the fucking screenshots you want.allpurpleallgold said:
Imagine someone laying a bunch of facts out in front of you and your reaction is to say they live in a fantasy world. That’s some shit.PurpleThrobber said:
You live in a fantasy world.Baseman said:
Good luck on that. Hillary was an easy mark. Her email lies were fresh in voters minds. The majority of the nation had enough of her shit.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Would rather see Trump destroy a communist like Bernie in debate.RaceBannon said:Joe Biden v Trump in a debate would have been gold
No way Trumps gets away with the same debate tactics against another candidate. Regardless of your persuasion, Biden or the Bern would have torn Trump a new asshole.
The swing voters that gave Trump the election were the lower middle class, who previously ushered the Clintons into the White House, only to see their jobs go down their shitter and their houses foreclosed on when the financial crisis came.
Then they learned Goldman Sachs, at the forefront of financial manipulation that brought the whole show down, made hundreds of billions on the other side of the trade, profits out of which paid Billary $500,000 speaking fees. Consulting deals. Shadowy foundation contributions.
“ a sizable chunk of Obama-Trump voters — 30 percent — said their vote for Trump was more a vote against Clinton than a vote for Trump. Remember, these voters backed Obama four years earlier.”
The realistic Republicans are now quaking in their boots. America doesn’t have Hillary to kick around any more. The narrow margin that catapulted Trump into the White House is in dire peril with no signs of a turnaround.
Sure, unemployment is down. Wages are flat. Inflation is up. Let’s not even talk Tarrifs.
Tax cuts are swell. Stock markets are up, corporate profits soaring. Wall Street and the Uber, partying like its 1999.
So, says the factory worker and coal miner, where’s mine?
Their president, the one they voted for, thinks $92 million for a fucking military parade is a great idea. America first? Where’s my fucking raise, dude?
There’s no wall. No construction. The base gave thumbs up for supporting the very fine people in the south, even if our tuff president couldn’t keep the man from taking our beautiful history. Hell ya for the fuck you to the rainbowers and blacks, especially those that kneel on Sunday’s. It’s all very good, it’s all very fine, but Mr. President, I haven’t got even an extra dime.
Signed,
Disenfranchised in West Virginia.
Feeling cheated in Ohio.
Worried in Wisconsin.
I like the Bern in this one. It won’t be close.
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They'll get mine but they'll be hot and empty!
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Yeah, its time to start making the unpopular arguments the left doesn't want to hear. They already think everything is racism anyway so fuck them. Crack down on legal immigration hard, turn off the spigot. They will lose future voters and are going to cry about it. Fuck them some more. Make the changes as permanent as possible by amending the Constitution. We need LESS not more immigration from Latin America or we're going to end up as another socialist shithole country in the future. Most hispanics come from socialist countries and take that line of thinking here with them. Just look at California, it's majority hispanic now and it's 1 party rule there. They want to use that blueprint for the rest of the country. What a shitshow. We refuse it. Keep socialism in the third world where it belongs. Never in America.SarkFanSixtyNine said:
Unfortunately it's pretty much inevitable that they eventually win. The future Americans don't like freedom. The Dems understand this and it's why keeping the border open is one of their main priorities. California once voted for Ronald Reagan lol.oregonblitzkrieg said:Freedom knows which side to be on and which side to oppose at this point in history. Your side is the enemy of freedom, the enemy of the founders' ideals, and it's going down in flames one way or another. I'll say it again, clean your own house before it gets cleaned for you. Your side in its current form won't be permitted to rule and destroy the nation.
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I wonder why the majority wants guns and minority’s don’t. Hmm. It’s definitely about freedom. Not at all that white people have used violence against minority’s as a way to eliminate, hold back and control them for this countries entire existence.SarkFanSixtyNine said:
Unfortunately it's pretty much inevitable that they eventually win. The future Americans don't like freedom. The Dems understand this and it's why keeping the border open is one of their main priorities. California once voted for Ronald Reagan lol.oregonblitzkrieg said:Freedom knows which side to be on and which side to oppose at this point in history. Your side is the enemy of freedom, the enemy of the founders' ideals, and it's going down in flames one way or another. I'll say it again, clean your own house before it gets cleaned for you. Your side in its current form won't be permitted to rule and destroy the nation.
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The left's fixation on white privilege/reverse racism is going to bite them in the ass.
To quote Ali -I ain't got no fight with them (fill in the blank with favorite non-white race).
Yet you stay in the Throbber's face on what a racist piece of shit he is, I sure as fuck ain't voting for that mindset and trumped up value judgments. The Throbber is not alone with millions of others getting painted as racist by association or not 'smart enough' to understand the issue.
Rinse.repeat on shit like LGBTXYZLMNOP issues.
Pretty simple "How to win friends and influence people" stuff. Lefties can't quite grasp that concept.
Obama brought folks into the tent with the whole hope and change, hug it out message. Going hard left, accusatory messaging is FS.
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I do enjoy how every non Lefty is rich and evil while simultaneously poor and uneducated and voting against their best interest.
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Not sure if you have heard but things are different these days and guns had something to do with itallpurpleallgold said:
I wonder why the majority wants guns and minority’s don’t. Hmm. It’s definitely about freedom. Not at all that white people have used violence against minority’s as a way to eliminate, hold back and control them for this countries entire existence.SarkFanSixtyNine said:
Unfortunately it's pretty much inevitable that they eventually win. The future Americans don't like freedom. The Dems understand this and it's why keeping the border open is one of their main priorities. California once voted for Ronald Reagan lol.oregonblitzkrieg said:Freedom knows which side to be on and which side to oppose at this point in history. Your side is the enemy of freedom, the enemy of the founders' ideals, and it's going down in flames one way or another. I'll say it again, clean your own house before it gets cleaned for you. Your side in its current form won't be permitted to rule and destroy the nation.
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First, ISAFNRC.SarkFanSixtyNine said:
Unfortunately it's pretty much inevitable that they eventually win. The future Americans don't like freedom. The Dems understand this and it's why keeping the border open is one of their main priorities. California once voted for Ronald Reagan lol.oregonblitzkrieg said:Freedom knows which side to be on and which side to oppose at this point in history. Your side is the enemy of freedom, the enemy of the founders' ideals, and it's going down in flames one way or another. I'll say it again, clean your own house before it gets cleaned for you. Your side in its current form won't be permitted to rule and destroy the nation.
That being said, Da fuq kind of poll asks "protect gun rights" and "control gun ownership" as two choices. As if they are mutually exclusive. -
Go fuck yourself if you think a chart showing facts is racist.2001400ex said:
First, ISAFNRC.SarkFanSixtyNine said:
Unfortunately it's pretty much inevitable that they eventually win. The future Americans don't like freedom. The Dems understand this and it's why keeping the border open is one of their main priorities. California once voted for Ronald Reagan lol.oregonblitzkrieg said:Freedom knows which side to be on and which side to oppose at this point in history. Your side is the enemy of freedom, the enemy of the founders' ideals, and it's going down in flames one way or another. I'll say it again, clean your own house before it gets cleaned for you. Your side in its current form won't be permitted to rule and destroy the nation.
That being said, Da fuq kind of poll asks "protect gun rights" and "control gun ownership" as two choices. As if they are mutually exclusive. -
The first chart shows whites not being a majority in the future. Explain why you included that.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Go fuck yourself if you think a chart showing facts is racist.2001400ex said:
First, ISAFNRC.SarkFanSixtyNine said:
Unfortunately it's pretty much inevitable that they eventually win. The future Americans don't like freedom. The Dems understand this and it's why keeping the border open is one of their main priorities. California once voted for Ronald Reagan lol.oregonblitzkrieg said:Freedom knows which side to be on and which side to oppose at this point in history. Your side is the enemy of freedom, the enemy of the founders' ideals, and it's going down in flames one way or another. I'll say it again, clean your own house before it gets cleaned for you. Your side in its current form won't be permitted to rule and destroy the nation.
That being said, Da fuq kind of poll asks "protect gun rights" and "control gun ownership" as two choices. As if they are mutually exclusive. -
The rich need useful idiots too.Pitchfork51 said:I do enjoy how every non Lefty is rich and evil while simultaneously poor and uneducated and voting against their best interest.
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https://washingtonpost.com/news/made-by-history/wp/2018/04/11/why-killer-mike-is-right-african-americans-should-own-guns/?utm_term=.67fa3c223f38
Last month, hip-hop artist Killer Mike used an interview conducted by the National Rifle Association’s media arm, NRATV, to advocate for black gun ownership, chiding members of his community for being “lackeys” of the white gun-control movement. The interview prompted fierce social media blowback. Many argued that Killer Mike’s words merely served as fodder for the NRA’s attempt to undermine the youth-led March for Our Lives.
Days later, Killer Mike issued a two-part video apology on Twitter. The NRA “used the interview to disparage a very noble campaign that I support. My interview was supposed to be something that continued a conversation,” he clarified, “a conversation about African American gun ownership in these times. We have to remember in our allyship [with whites] that we still have to make sure there are certain rights and demands that we make for us and our community. … I support the march and black people owning guns.”
Although the controversy surrounding Killer Mike’s interview and apology received significant publicity, few have properly situated it in the history of white supremacy and gun policy. From the earliest days of the American colonies, gun laws have aimed to arm whites and disarm people of color and indigenous people, part of the quest to maintain white supremacy. People of color and indigenous people have long fought against this double standard, recognizing that gun ownership can be integral to securing equality — especially in a country where white gun ownership is valorized and protected.
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From the earliest days of European colonization, gun laws served as a proxy for regulating and containing people of color and indigenous people. In 1647, “The Laws and Liberties of Massachusetts” banned any man from repairing “any gun, small or great, belonging to any Indian. … Nor shall sell or give to any Indian, directly or indirectly any such gun, or any gun-powder, shot or lead, or shotmould, or any militarie weapons or armour.” Punishment entailed a fine of 10 pounds or, absent that, corporal punishment.
Connecticut replicated this statute almost word for word in 1650. Ten years later, Connecticut officials declared that “Negroes” and “Indians” were exempt from serving in the militia, which for practical purposes meant they could not possess firearms. -
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But but but 1650 POTD.RaceBannon said:From the earliest days of European colonization, gun laws served as a proxy for regulating and containing people of color and indigenous people. In 1647, “The Laws and Liberties of Massachusetts” banned any man from repairing “any gun, small or great, belonging to any Indian. … Nor shall sell or give to any Indian, directly or indirectly any such gun, or any gun-powder, shot or lead, or shotmould, or any militarie weapons or armour.” Punishment entailed a fine of 10 pounds or, absent that, corporal punishment.
Connecticut replicated this statute almost word for word in 1650. Ten years later, Connecticut officials declared that “Negroes” and “Indians” were exempt from serving in the militia, which for practical purposes meant they could not possess firearms. -
Fuck off
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Citizens own guns. Subjects do not.
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I didn't post the chart. Hth.2001400ex said:
The first chart shows whites not being a majority in the future. Explain why you included that.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Go fuck yourself if you think a chart showing facts is racist.2001400ex said:
First, ISAFNRC.SarkFanSixtyNine said:
Unfortunately it's pretty much inevitable that they eventually win. The future Americans don't like freedom. The Dems understand this and it's why keeping the border open is one of their main priorities. California once voted for Ronald Reagan lol.oregonblitzkrieg said:Freedom knows which side to be on and which side to oppose at this point in history. Your side is the enemy of freedom, the enemy of the founders' ideals, and it's going down in flames one way or another. I'll say it again, clean your own house before it gets cleaned for you. Your side in its current form won't be permitted to rule and destroy the nation.
That being said, Da fuq kind of poll asks "protect gun rights" and "control gun ownership" as two choices. As if they are mutually exclusive. -
Ok. Explain the relevance of that chart since you are defending the position.oregonblitzkrieg said:
I didn't post the chart. Hth.2001400ex said:
The first chart shows whites not being a majority in the future. Explain why you included that.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Go fuck yourself if you think a chart showing facts is racist.2001400ex said:
First, ISAFNRC.SarkFanSixtyNine said:
Unfortunately it's pretty much inevitable that they eventually win. The future Americans don't like freedom. The Dems understand this and it's why keeping the border open is one of their main priorities. California once voted for Ronald Reagan lol.oregonblitzkrieg said:Freedom knows which side to be on and which side to oppose at this point in history. Your side is the enemy of freedom, the enemy of the founders' ideals, and it's going down in flames one way or another. I'll say it again, clean your own house before it gets cleaned for you. Your side in its current form won't be permitted to rule and destroy the nation.
That being said, Da fuq kind of poll asks "protect gun rights" and "control gun ownership" as two choices. As if they are mutually exclusive. -
Do you find it racist any time people break down votes by ethnicity?2001400ex said:
Ok. Explain the relevance of that chart since you are defending the position.oregonblitzkrieg said:
I didn't post the chart. Hth.2001400ex said:
The first chart shows whites not being a majority in the future. Explain why you included that.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Go fuck yourself if you think a chart showing facts is racist.2001400ex said:
First, ISAFNRC.SarkFanSixtyNine said:
Unfortunately it's pretty much inevitable that they eventually win. The future Americans don't like freedom. The Dems understand this and it's why keeping the border open is one of their main priorities. California once voted for Ronald Reagan lol.oregonblitzkrieg said:Freedom knows which side to be on and which side to oppose at this point in history. Your side is the enemy of freedom, the enemy of the founders' ideals, and it's going down in flames one way or another. I'll say it again, clean your own house before it gets cleaned for you. Your side in its current form won't be permitted to rule and destroy the nation.
That being said, Da fuq kind of poll asks "protect gun rights" and "control gun ownership" as two choices. As if they are mutually exclusive.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_demography
I guess you can take it up with Harvard if you really want to pursue this injustice
https://www.hks.harvard.edu/publications/political-demography-how-population-changes-are-reshaping-international-security-and -
Answer the question. What was your intent of including that chart? I didn't say people who created the chart were racist.SarkFanSixtyNine said:
Do you find it racist any time people break down votes by ethnicity?2001400ex said:
Ok. Explain the relevance of that chart since you are defending the position.oregonblitzkrieg said:
I didn't post the chart. Hth.2001400ex said:
The first chart shows whites not being a majority in the future. Explain why you included that.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Go fuck yourself if you think a chart showing facts is racist.2001400ex said:
First, ISAFNRC.SarkFanSixtyNine said:
Unfortunately it's pretty much inevitable that they eventually win. The future Americans don't like freedom. The Dems understand this and it's why keeping the border open is one of their main priorities. California once voted for Ronald Reagan lol.oregonblitzkrieg said:Freedom knows which side to be on and which side to oppose at this point in history. Your side is the enemy of freedom, the enemy of the founders' ideals, and it's going down in flames one way or another. I'll say it again, clean your own house before it gets cleaned for you. Your side in its current form won't be permitted to rule and destroy the nation.
That being said, Da fuq kind of poll asks "protect gun rights" and "control gun ownership" as two choices. As if they are mutually exclusive.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_demography
I guess you can take it up with Harvard if you really want to pursue this injustice
https://www.hks.harvard.edu/publications/political-demography-how-population-changes-are-reshaping-international-security-and -
It’s called context you stupid fuck. It’s the same reason people talk about Hillary and Barry when discussing Trump’s policies and administration.2001400ex said:
The first chart shows whites not being a majority in the future. Explain why you included that.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Go fuck yourself if you think a chart showing facts is racist.2001400ex said:
First, ISAFNRC.SarkFanSixtyNine said:
Unfortunately it's pretty much inevitable that they eventually win. The future Americans don't like freedom. The Dems understand this and it's why keeping the border open is one of their main priorities. California once voted for Ronald Reagan lol.oregonblitzkrieg said:Freedom knows which side to be on and which side to oppose at this point in history. Your side is the enemy of freedom, the enemy of the founders' ideals, and it's going down in flames one way or another. I'll say it again, clean your own house before it gets cleaned for you. Your side in its current form won't be permitted to rule and destroy the nation.
That being said, Da fuq kind of poll asks "protect gun rights" and "control gun ownership" as two choices. As if they are mutually exclusive.
It shows the population that believes in gun ownership is declining (as a percentage) and the population that believes in gun control is growing (as a percentage); it’s a significant statistic that breaks along ethnicity. -
People talk about Hillary and Obama while defending Trump cause they ain't got nothing. And their heads are up Trump's ass. Those charts are meaningless (for reasons I've stated) and the future ethnicity in our country is meaningless.USMChawk said:
It’s called context you stupid fuck. It’s the same reason people talk about Hillary and Barry when discussing Trump’s policies and administration.2001400ex said:
The first chart shows whites not being a majority in the future. Explain why you included that.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Go fuck yourself if you think a chart showing facts is racist.2001400ex said:
First, ISAFNRC.SarkFanSixtyNine said:
Unfortunately it's pretty much inevitable that they eventually win. The future Americans don't like freedom. The Dems understand this and it's why keeping the border open is one of their main priorities. California once voted for Ronald Reagan lol.oregonblitzkrieg said:Freedom knows which side to be on and which side to oppose at this point in history. Your side is the enemy of freedom, the enemy of the founders' ideals, and it's going down in flames one way or another. I'll say it again, clean your own house before it gets cleaned for you. Your side in its current form won't be permitted to rule and destroy the nation.
That being said, Da fuq kind of poll asks "protect gun rights" and "control gun ownership" as two choices. As if they are mutually exclusive.
It shows the population that believes in gun ownership is declining (as a percentage) and the population that believes in gun control is growing (as a percentage); it’s a significant statistic that breaks along ethnicity.
But if gun control scares you then so be it. -
Doesn’t scare me at all. I already have mine and can’t see anyone forcing me to give them up.
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I don't see anyone asking you to give them up. So that we agree on.USMChawk said:Doesn’t scare me at all. I already have mine and can’t see anyone forcing me to give them up.
