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Study: Earth was warmer in Roman, Medieval times

DerekJohnson
DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,532 Founders Club
dailycaller.com/2013/12/13/study-earth-was-warmer-in-roman-medieval-times/

TheKobeStopper and/or AllPurpleAllGold will not take this news well.
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  • What about the graph that shows greenhouse gasses at record levels?
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,532 Founders Club

    What about the graph that shows greenhouse gasses at record levels?

    What about the graph showing the record cold temps sweeping the Midwest and eastern seaboard?
  • Weather is becoming more extreme. How do you explain Katrina, Sandy, that typhoon in the Phillipines?
  • loadsock
    loadsock Member Posts: 686
    Lowest hurricane season ever this summer. How do you explain that?

    Cycles. The climate change proponents would gain more clout if they didn't politicize it and people didn't watch AlGore become almost a billionaire off of his proselytizing. Plus do these idiots think that adding things like carbon taxes will improve the environment and the earth's atmosphere while we watch 90% of the rest of the world's countries pollute on an even grander level?

  • Up here at 30,000 feet posting on my phone I can't address your post how I'd like to but a couple points:

    1. The politicization of the issue is sad but both sides are guilty of it. Instead of trying to resolve the issue they're caught up in a game of semantics going nowhere.

    2. One hurricane season isn't isolated? El Oh Fucking El. We've literally seen unprecedented hurricanes, tornadoes, and snowstorms over the last 15 years and you use this hurricane season to counter that? C'mon man. Plus that Typhoon (which is the same fucking thing as a hurricane happened this year).

    3. So because other countries aren't stopping means it's ok for us to continue on a path of belligerence? I miss America the world leader dammit!
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499

    Up here at 30,000 feet posting on my phone I can't address your post how I'd like to but a couple points:

    1. The politicization of the issue is sad but both sides are guilty of it. Instead of trying to resolve the issue they're caught up in a game of semantics going nowhere.

    2. One hurricane season isn't isolated? El Oh Fucking El. We've literally seen unprecedented hurricanes, tornadoes, and snowstorms over the last 15 years and you use this hurricane season to counter that? C'mon man. Plus that Typhoon (which is the same fucking thing as a hurricane happened this year).

    3. So because other countries aren't stopping means it's ok for us to continue on a path of belligerence? I miss America the world leader dammit!

    Jesus Christ, no. Nothing is fucking happening. Weather goes in cycles, people only started noticing all this shit when libs were screaming "LOOK!!! HURRICANE!! CAUSED BY GLOBA.... ehh heh... CLIMATE CHANGE." When the weather has a stretch of being extremely mild will the excuse be "Even Climate Change has down time" ??

  • death2ducks
    death2ducks Member Posts: 991

    Up here at 30,000 feet posting on my phone I can't address your post how I'd like to but a couple points:

    2. One hurricane season isn't isolated? El Oh Fucking El. We've literally seen unprecedented hurricanes, tornadoes, and snowstorms over the last 15 years and you use this hurricane season to counter that? C'mon man. Plus that Typhoon (which is the same fucking thing as a hurricane happened this year).

    Obviously they don't teach statistics for $200,000. Citing a 15 year statistical sample, for a planet millions of years old, is proof of your fucking stupidity.

    Just ask your mathematical genius Senator, below.
  • Up here at 30,000 feet posting on my phone I can't address your post how I'd like to but a couple points:

    1. The politicization of the issue is sad but both sides are guilty of it. Instead of trying to resolve the issue they're caught up in a game of semantics going nowhere.

    2. One hurricane season isn't isolated? El Oh Fucking El. We've literally seen unprecedented hurricanes, tornadoes, and snowstorms over the last 15 years and you use this hurricane season to counter that? C'mon man. Plus that Typhoon (which is the same fucking thing as a hurricane happened this year).

    3. So because other countries aren't stopping means it's ok for us to continue on a path of belligerence? I miss America the world leader dammit!

    Jesus Christ, no. Nothing is fucking happening. Weather goes in cycles, people only started noticing all this shit when libs were screaming "LOOK!!! HURRICANE!! CAUSED BY GLOBA.... ehh heh... CLIMATE CHANGE." When the weather has a stretch of being extremely mild will the excuse be "Even Climate Change has down time" ??

    There is a mountain of scientific evidence supporting climate change. Just because some people exaggerated it for political purposes doesn't debunk the years and years of research and scientific support.

    When did Americans become so fucking polarized and shallow?
  • Why are you on a fucking jet? Walk bitch. Carbon footprint

    Silly.
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499

    Up here at 30,000 feet posting on my phone I can't address your post how I'd like to but a couple points:

    1. The politicization of the issue is sad but both sides are guilty of it. Instead of trying to resolve the issue they're caught up in a game of semantics going nowhere.

    2. One hurricane season isn't isolated? El Oh Fucking El. We've literally seen unprecedented hurricanes, tornadoes, and snowstorms over the last 15 years and you use this hurricane season to counter that? C'mon man. Plus that Typhoon (which is the same fucking thing as a hurricane happened this year).

    3. So because other countries aren't stopping means it's ok for us to continue on a path of belligerence? I miss America the world leader dammit!

    Jesus Christ, no. Nothing is fucking happening. Weather goes in cycles, people only started noticing all this shit when libs were screaming "LOOK!!! HURRICANE!! CAUSED BY GLOBA.... ehh heh... CLIMATE CHANGE." When the weather has a stretch of being extremely mild will the excuse be "Even Climate Change has down time" ??

    There is a mountain of scientific evidence supporting climate change. Just because some people exaggerated it for political purposes doesn't debunk the years and years of research and scientific support.

    When did Americans become so fucking polarized and shallow?
    There are also just as much if not way fucking more evidence to prove that it is all bullshit.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited December 2013

    Up here at 30,000 feet posting on my phone I can't address your post how I'd like to but a couple points:

    1. The politicization of the issue is sad but both sides are guilty of it. Instead of trying to resolve the issue they're caught up in a game of semantics going nowhere.

    2. One hurricane season isn't isolated? El Oh Fucking El. We've literally seen unprecedented hurricanes, tornadoes, and snowstorms over the last 15 years and you use this hurricane season to counter that? C'mon man. Plus that Typhoon (which is the same fucking thing as a hurricane happened this year).

    3. So because other countries aren't stopping means it's ok for us to continue on a path of belligerence? I miss America the world leader dammit!

    Jesus Christ, no. Nothing is fucking happening. Weather goes in cycles, people only started noticing all this shit when libs were screaming "LOOK!!! HURRICANE!! CAUSED BY GLOBA.... ehh heh... CLIMATE CHANGE." When the weather has a stretch of being extremely mild will the excuse be "Even Climate Change has down time" ??

    There is a mountain of scientific evidence supporting climate change. Just because some people exaggerated it for political purposes doesn't debunk the years and years of research and scientific support.

    When did Americans become so fucking polarized and shallow?
    There are also just as much if not way fucking more evidence to prove that it is all bullshit.
    What? CLIMATEGATE!!??!? Or whatever grand "exposé" that showed s few scientists tried to silence others?

    The evidence against is mostly politicization like changing the name. They can critique the semantics but not the actual fucking data.

    And please if you're gonna bring data to the table it better not be from the dailycaller, red state.com, breitbart, or studies paid for by climate change denial groups.
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
  • I implore you to come back with some tangible evidence gathered by an independent study.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    Up here at 30,000 feet posting on my phone I can't address your post how I'd like to but a couple points:

    1. The politicization of the issue is sad but both sides are guilty of it. Instead of trying to resolve the issue they're caught up in a game of semantics going nowhere.

    2. One hurricane season isn't isolated? El Oh Fucking El. We've literally seen unprecedented hurricanes, tornadoes, and snowstorms over the last 15 years and you use this hurricane season to counter that? C'mon man. Plus that Typhoon (which is the same fucking thing as a hurricane happened this year).

    3. So because other countries aren't stopping means it's ok for us to continue on a path of belligerence? I miss America the world leader dammit!

    Jesus Christ, no. Nothing is fucking happening. Weather goes in cycles, people only started noticing all this shit when libs were screaming "LOOK!!! HURRICANE!! CAUSED BY GLOBA.... ehh heh... CLIMATE CHANGE." When the weather has a stretch of being extremely mild will the excuse be "Even Climate Change has down time" ??

    Hmm. Counting this one, I'm going to need at least one more science illiterate person to tell me "weather goes in cycles". If it weren't so pathetic it would be funny.

    Are you under the impression that people are unaware that weather goes in cycles? Do you think you're hitting some home run? Do you really think that's not being accounted for? Are you a retard?

    Flip your last paragraph, genius. LOOK!!! MILD WEATHER!!! THIS IS GLOBAL WARMING/CLIMATE CHANGE??? But when the weather becomes more extreme it'll be "the weather goes in cycles". Where have we gotten? You simpleton. This isn't some point/counterpoint on a news channel that you win with a soundbite.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    dailycaller.com/2013/12/13/study-earth-was-warmer-in-roman-medieval-times/

    TheKobeStopper and/or AllPurpleAllGold will not take this news well.

    What exactly do you think that means?
  • priapism
    priapism Member Posts: 2,306
    Check this doc out if you have the time. BBC docs take the position that a constantly changing environment, spurs evolution. A stagnant environment isn't so good for enhancing evolution.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0Maf03wGvE

    Huge volcanic eruptions every 150 years or so seem to always freeze global warming.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,679 Standard Supporter

    Up here at 30,000 feet posting on my phone I can't address your post how I'd like to but a couple points:

    1. The politicization of the issue is sad but both sides are guilty of it. Instead of trying to resolve the issue they're caught up in a game of semantics going nowhere.

    2. One hurricane season isn't isolated? El Oh Fucking El. We've literally seen unprecedented hurricanes, tornadoes, and snowstorms over the last 15 years and you use this hurricane season to counter that? C'mon man. Plus that Typhoon (which is the same fucking thing as a hurricane happened this year).

    3. So because other countries aren't stopping means it's ok for us to continue on a path of belligerence? I miss America the world leader dammit!

    Jesus Christ, no. Nothing is fucking happening. Weather goes in cycles, people only started noticing all this shit when libs were screaming "LOOK!!! HURRICANE!! CAUSED BY GLOBA.... ehh heh... CLIMATE CHANGE." When the weather has a stretch of being extremely mild will the excuse be "Even Climate Change has down time" ??

    There is a mountain of scientific evidence supporting climate change. Just because some people exaggerated it for political purposes doesn't debunk the years and years of research and scientific support.

    When did Americans become so fucking polarized and shallow?
    There are also just as much if not way fucking more evidence to prove that it is all bullshit.
    paid for by Exxxon and the Heritage Foundation
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,113 Founders Club

    Up here at 30,000 feet posting on my phone I can't address your post how I'd like to but a couple points:

    1. The politicization of the issue is sad but both sides are guilty of it. Instead of trying to resolve the issue they're caught up in a game of semantics going nowhere.

    2. One hurricane season isn't isolated? El Oh Fucking El. We've literally seen unprecedented hurricanes, tornadoes, and snowstorms over the last 15 years and you use this hurricane season to counter that? C'mon man. Plus that Typhoon (which is the same fucking thing as a hurricane happened this year).

    3. So because other countries aren't stopping means it's ok for us to continue on a path of belligerence? I miss America the world leader dammit!

    Jesus Christ, no. Nothing is fucking happening. Weather goes in cycles, people only started noticing all this shit when libs were screaming "LOOK!!! HURRICANE!! CAUSED BY GLOBA.... ehh heh... CLIMATE CHANGE." When the weather has a stretch of being extremely mild will the excuse be "Even Climate Change has down time" ??

    There is a mountain of scientific evidence supporting climate change. Just because some people exaggerated it for political purposes doesn't debunk the years and years of research and scientific support.

    When did Americans become so fucking polarized and shallow?
    There are also just as much if not way fucking more evidence to prove that it is all bullshit.
    paid for by Exxxon and the Heritage Foundation
    And these are the "smart" people that know more than all us tea party rubes who listen to Glen Beck and Faux news and Exxon and shit

    thegatewaypundit.com/2013/12/five-years-ago-today-al-gore-predicted-the-north-pole-will-be-ice-free-in-5-years/
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    Race logic isn't really a strong point for these boreds. Just say there is overwhelming evidence yet not poast a link, that is how this baby operates/
  • fivehundredmileDAWG
    fivehundredmileDAWG Member Posts: 1,212
    As long as there is beer in the fridge and Bowel Gaymes on my TV all this environment shit is a non-issue.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited December 2013

    Race logic isn't really a strong point for these boreds. Just say there is overwhelming evidence yet not poast a link, that is how this baby operates/

    Ok. How about an independent study that found skeptics' claims unfounded?

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=three-quarters-of-climate

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15373071

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/21/world/americas/climate-study-warming-real/index.html

    Here are some graphs

    image

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    I particularly like this one because there have been posts recently about the ice returning. If you look at the overall trend this anomaly has happened in the past, but the overall decline continues.

    image

    There's plenty more beyond this.

  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club

    I implore you to come back with some tangible evidence gathered by an independent study.

    That's fucking rich.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,679 Standard Supporter

    Up here at 30,000 feet posting on my phone I can't address your post how I'd like to but a couple points:

    1. The politicization of the issue is sad but both sides are guilty of it. Instead of trying to resolve the issue they're caught up in a game of semantics going nowhere.

    2. One hurricane season isn't isolated? El Oh Fucking El. We've literally seen unprecedented hurricanes, tornadoes, and snowstorms over the last 15 years and you use this hurricane season to counter that? C'mon man. Plus that Typhoon (which is the same fucking thing as a hurricane happened this year).

    3. So because other countries aren't stopping means it's ok for us to continue on a path of belligerence? I miss America the world leader dammit!

    Jesus Christ, no. Nothing is fucking happening. Weather goes in cycles, people only started noticing all this shit when libs were screaming "LOOK!!! HURRICANE!! CAUSED BY GLOBA.... ehh heh... CLIMATE CHANGE." When the weather has a stretch of being extremely mild will the excuse be "Even Climate Change has down time" ??

    There is a mountain of scientific evidence supporting climate change. Just because some people exaggerated it for political purposes doesn't debunk the years and years of research and scientific support.

    When did Americans become so fucking polarized and shallow?
    There are also just as much if not way fucking more evidence to prove that it is all bullshit.
    paid for by Exxxon and the Heritage Foundation
    And these are the "smart" people that know more than all us tea party rubes who listen to Glen Beck and Faux news and Exxon and shit

    thegatewaypundit.com/2013/12/five-years-ago-today-al-gore-predicted-the-north-pole-will-be-ice-free-in-5-years/
    lol Gateway Pundit? Wtf is that?

    You're better than this Race.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited December 2013
    Should add this graph for good measure

    image

    You wanted real evidence? Here it is. It sure as hell beats using ridiculous claim by known retard Al Gore as a counter argument.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,679 Standard Supporter
    Bob Ward of the Grantham Research Institute on Climate Change and the Environment, said: "It is clear that greater transparency is required in climate research because of the intense public interest in it, and its profound implications for society. However, it is also now very apparent that many so-called sceptics owe a huge apology to the public for having presented the email messages as evidence that climate change is a hoax carried out by a conspiracy of dishonest scientists."

    http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/jul/08/muir-russell-climategate-climate-science
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,113 Founders Club

    Up here at 30,000 feet posting on my phone I can't address your post how I'd like to but a couple points:

    1. The politicization of the issue is sad but both sides are guilty of it. Instead of trying to resolve the issue they're caught up in a game of semantics going nowhere.

    2. One hurricane season isn't isolated? El Oh Fucking El. We've literally seen unprecedented hurricanes, tornadoes, and snowstorms over the last 15 years and you use this hurricane season to counter that? C'mon man. Plus that Typhoon (which is the same fucking thing as a hurricane happened this year).

    3. So because other countries aren't stopping means it's ok for us to continue on a path of belligerence? I miss America the world leader dammit!

    Jesus Christ, no. Nothing is fucking happening. Weather goes in cycles, people only started noticing all this shit when libs were screaming "LOOK!!! HURRICANE!! CAUSED BY GLOBA.... ehh heh... CLIMATE CHANGE." When the weather has a stretch of being extremely mild will the excuse be "Even Climate Change has down time" ??

    There is a mountain of scientific evidence supporting climate change. Just because some people exaggerated it for political purposes doesn't debunk the years and years of research and scientific support.

    When did Americans become so fucking polarized and shallow?
    There are also just as much if not way fucking more evidence to prove that it is all bullshit.
    paid for by Exxxon and the Heritage Foundation
    And these are the "smart" people that know more than all us tea party rubes who listen to Glen Beck and Faux news and Exxon and shit

    thegatewaypundit.com/2013/12/five-years-ago-today-al-gore-predicted-the-north-pole-will-be-ice-free-in-5-years/
    lol Gateway Pundit? Wtf is that?

    You're better than this Race.
    Did he say it or didn't he?
  • Up here at 30,000 feet posting on my phone I can't address your post how I'd like to but a couple points:

    1. The politicization of the issue is sad but both sides are guilty of it. Instead of trying to resolve the issue they're caught up in a game of semantics going nowhere.

    2. One hurricane season isn't isolated? El Oh Fucking El. We've literally seen unprecedented hurricanes, tornadoes, and snowstorms over the last 15 years and you use this hurricane season to counter that? C'mon man. Plus that Typhoon (which is the same fucking thing as a hurricane happened this year).

    3. So because other countries aren't stopping means it's ok for us to continue on a path of belligerence? I miss America the world leader dammit!

    Jesus Christ, no. Nothing is fucking happening. Weather goes in cycles, people only started noticing all this shit when libs were screaming "LOOK!!! HURRICANE!! CAUSED BY GLOBA.... ehh heh... CLIMATE CHANGE." When the weather has a stretch of being extremely mild will the excuse be "Even Climate Change has down time" ??

    There is a mountain of scientific evidence supporting climate change. Just because some people exaggerated it for political purposes doesn't debunk the years and years of research and scientific support.

    When did Americans become so fucking polarized and shallow?
    There are also just as much if not way fucking more evidence to prove that it is all bullshit.
    paid for by Exxxon and the Heritage Foundation
    And these are the "smart" people that know more than all us tea party rubes who listen to Glen Beck and Faux news and Exxon and shit

    thegatewaypundit.com/2013/12/five-years-ago-today-al-gore-predicted-the-north-pole-will-be-ice-free-in-5-years/
    lol Gateway Pundit? Wtf is that?

    You're better than this Race.
    Did he say it or didn't he?
    He did. It's worthy of an article, and Al Gore should be shamed.

    But it shouldn't be used as ammo for the skeptics because Al Gore is known for over exaggeration and putting his foot in his mouth.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Up here at 30,000 feet posting on my phone I can't address your post how I'd like to but a couple points:

    1. The politicization of the issue is sad but both sides are guilty of it. Instead of trying to resolve the issue they're caught up in a game of semantics going nowhere.

    2. One hurricane season isn't isolated? El Oh Fucking El. We've literally seen unprecedented hurricanes, tornadoes, and snowstorms over the last 15 years and you use this hurricane season to counter that? C'mon man. Plus that Typhoon (which is the same fucking thing as a hurricane happened this year).

    3. So because other countries aren't stopping means it's ok for us to continue on a path of belligerence? I miss America the world leader dammit!

    Jesus Christ, no. Nothing is fucking happening. Weather goes in cycles, people only started noticing all this shit when libs were screaming "LOOK!!! HURRICANE!! CAUSED BY GLOBA.... ehh heh... CLIMATE CHANGE." When the weather has a stretch of being extremely mild will the excuse be "Even Climate Change has down time" ??

    There is a mountain of scientific evidence supporting climate change. Just because some people exaggerated it for political purposes doesn't debunk the years and years of research and scientific support.

    When did Americans become so fucking polarized and shallow?
    So what if the climate changes? It's changed several times and will continue to do so, with us or without us. The poles will eventually reverse again, and we are in fact due for that to happen. Someday, the sun will start to become a red giant and burn the solar system to ashes. The planet is active and changing. We simply happen to be here at a time that is hospitable to supporting life. Right now it's just a mater of people fighting over control and money. There are billions and maybe trillions at stake as well as government control of the people. Of course there will be a fight.