Welcome to the Hardcore Husky Forums. Folks who are well-known in Cyberland and not that dumb.

Study: Majority of censorship at colleges directed at the left

Comments

  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    How stupid do you think your audience is here?
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369

    How stupid do you think your audience is here?

    This is HH. Walked right into that one, didn’t you
  • BearsWiin
    BearsWiin Member Posts: 5,072
    Baseman said:

    How stupid do you think your audience is here?

    This is HH. Walked right into that one, didn’t you
    Yeah, holy cow


  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    edited August 2018
    BearsWiin said:

    Baseman said:

    How stupid do you think your audience is here?

    This is HH. Walked right into that one, didn’t you
    Yeah, holy cow


    That cat is painting the corners though. If you try to pull it, you’re hitting it foul. You take his outside pitch the other way and chances are ya hit a gap.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    How stupid do you think your audience is here?

    Which facts in the study do you disagree with?
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited August 2018

    How stupid do you think your audience is here?

    Which facts in the study do you disagree with?
    This is all invalid imo. It's an investigation where the investigators are investigating themselves. No conflict of interest there...

    If the article is taken seriously,

    How many incidents go unreported out of fear of retribution? How many students don't speak up and air their views on campuses out of fear of social castigation in a climate where only one point of view is tolerated? They see people every day losing their careers, getting silenced on social media platforms, etc. for having the 'wrong point of view,' the wrong point of view being anything that isn't accepted leftist dogma & thought.

    It's questionable whether the study was conducted by impartial interests. It was conducted by a group at Georgetown University, a university that's so far left that students are demanding the university change its hiring practices

    The lack of conservative professors at Georgetown is leaving students unprepared for the genuine diversity – that is, the diversity of thought – that is part of the real world. Georgetown’s homogeneity, they argue, is leading to an atrophying of their skills for debate and reasoned argument. In other words, without conservatives, they have no one to test their ideas against.

    “One of the hallmarks of higher education is the opportunity to understand and grapple with a wide range of ideas,” the editorial notes. It goes on:

    Yet, Georgetown falls short on its commitment to this ideological diversity in the makeup of its instructional corps. The university must work to remedy its lack of politically conservative professors by considering a diversity of viewpoints when hiring instructors, from assistant professors to those with tenure, and by ensuring that no bias exists against conservative educators in the hiring process.


    https://nationalreview.com/2017/10/georgetown-conservative-professors-students-intellectual-diversity</
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    So, none of the facts.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    So, none of the facts.

    Umm, the facts are being called into question because of the source: a left wing biased university. Need an independent study by an investigative unit not affiliated with any university, or even better, not from the educational sector at all, composed of people from diverse backgrounds across the political spectrum.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    It’s amazing how much scrutiny you’re willing to apply to things when they don’t agree with your preconceived notions.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited August 2018

    It’s amazing how much scrutiny you’re willing to apply to things when they don’t agree with your preconceived notions.

    I don't doubt there are instances of leftist speech being infringed on at universities, but most universities being left leaning to far left wing, the bulk of the infringements are directed at people who have viewpoints that fall outside the accepted dogma of the left. To claim that it's mostly left wing viewpoints that are being silenced is beyond the pale. It's a narrative that just doesn't fit the evidence. You don't see leftist speakers being shouted down, banned from speaking or facing blackshirt anti fascist rioters trying to shut them down. That's all left wing shit. Seems to me it's exactly the kind of shit they claim to be against.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    It’s amazing how much scrutiny you’re willing to apply to things when they don’t agree with your preconceived notions.

    I don't doubt there are instances of leftist speech being infringed on at universities, but most universities being left leaning to far left wing, the bulk of the infringements are directed at people who have viewpoints that fall outside the accepted dogma of the left. To claim that it's mostly left wing viewpoints that are being silenced is beyond the pale. It's a narrative that just doesn't fit the evidence. You don't see leftist speakers being shouted down, banned from speaking or facing blackshirt anti fascist rioters trying to shut them down. That's all left wing shit. Seems to me it's exactly the kind of shit they claim to be against.
    The report offers good evidence. Yours is anecdotal.

    “Fascist rioters”. Someone was murdered at the Charlottesville white supremacy rally. You don’t give a fuck. You literally only want to hear what you agree with and you dismiss anything else.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited August 2018

    It’s amazing how much scrutiny you’re willing to apply to things when they don’t agree with your preconceived notions.

    I don't doubt there are instances of leftist speech being infringed on at universities, but most universities being left leaning to far left wing, the bulk of the infringements are directed at people who have viewpoints that fall outside the accepted dogma of the left. To claim that it's mostly left wing viewpoints that are being silenced is beyond the pale. It's a narrative that just doesn't fit the evidence. You don't see leftist speakers being shouted down, banned from speaking or facing blackshirt anti fascist rioters trying to shut them down. That's all left wing shit. Seems to me it's exactly the kind of shit they claim to be against.
    The report offers good evidence. Yours is anecdotal.

    “Fascist rioters”. Someone was murdered at the Charlottesville white supremacy rally. You don’t give a fuck. You literally only want to hear what you agree with and you dismiss anything else.
    The antifa blackshirts are similar to Hitler's brownshirts, a bunch of dumb ignorant thugs who go around bashing and trying to silence anyone who doesn't agree with their shitty point of view. There is no comparable organized white supremacist movement going around trying to shut everyone up. If there were, I would oppose it. What's happening on the far left resembles the far right fascism they claim to be fighting against. They've created a false narrative of white supremacy and use it to justify their movement.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    First the left was a bunch of soy boy cucks and now they’re terrorist thugs. From one bullshit point to the next without a second thought. The Stu Gotz is strong in you.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    edited August 2018
    That’s like saying more white people get arrested than black people. That is factually true if you look at raw data. That’s different than looking at the percentage of whites vs the percentage of blacks. I’d like to know what percentage of liberal speech gets negatively impacted vs conservative speech? I bet you the percentages would flip the other way.

    It’s easy to make data go in your favor.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,117 Standard Supporter
    Nega, please. Sample size of 90. 4500 schools.

    How many of those 90 incidents were lefties employed by private schools with religious beliefs?

    Vs. how many of those 90 incidents were at state schools?

    https://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/education/article209752459.html

  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    I expect more from APAG. Quite sad how far he’s fallen. This is Hondo/Sledog garbage.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    APAG going HondoFS in this thread...

    What.... Presenting facts and making conservatives squirm cause it's against their preconceived notions?
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Honestly, I prefer Honda to most you.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    edited August 2018

    Honestly, I prefer Honda to most you.

    You would...

    Chinned for being honest
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,117 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    APAG going HondoFS in this thread...

    What.... Presenting facts and making conservatives squirm cause it's against their preconceived notions?
    Let's assume each of those 4500 schools has 100 professors/instructors employed or 450,000 people. Some may have more than 100, some may have less.

    90/450,000 = 0.02%

    Anybody drawing definitive conclusions on a 0.02% incident rate is beyond FS. It is statistically irrelevant.



  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    APAG going HondoFS in this thread...

    What.... Presenting facts and making conservatives squirm cause it's against their preconceived notions?
    Let's assume each of those 4500 schools has 100 professors/instructors employed or 450,000 people. Some may have more than 100, some may have less.

    90/450,000 = 0.02%

    Anybody drawing definitive conclusions on a 0.02% incident rate is beyond FS. It is statistically irrelevant.



    That was one of the points he made. The conservative media makes it out like conservative voices are squashed all the time at universities. Which isn't true.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,117 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    APAG going HondoFS in this thread...

    What.... Presenting facts and making conservatives squirm cause it's against their preconceived notions?
    Let's assume each of those 4500 schools has 100 professors/instructors employed or 450,000 people. Some may have more than 100, some may have less.

    90/450,000 = 0.02%

    Anybody drawing definitive conclusions on a 0.02% incident rate is beyond FS. It is statistically irrelevant.



    That was one of the points he made. The conservative media makes it out like conservative voices are squashed all the time at universities. Which isn't true.
    Milos and I had a good chuckle on that.

  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club

    Honestly, I prefer Honda to most you.

    Hurtful.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,844 Standard Supporter
    That's why anyone remotely considered conservative can't speak at most campuses.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Swaye said:

    Honestly, I prefer Honda to most you.

    Hurtful.
    I said most. Both members of Hardcore Huskies most adorable couple are ahead of Honda.
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    APAG going HondoFS in this thread...

    What.... Presenting facts and making conservatives squirm cause it's against their preconceived notions?
    Let's assume each of those 4500 schools has 100 professors/instructors employed or 450,000 people. Some may have more than 100, some may have less.

    90/450,000 = 0.02%

    Anybody drawing definitive conclusions on a 0.02% incident rate is beyond FS. It is statistically irrelevant.

    That was one of the points he made. The conservative media makes it out like conservative voices are squashed all the time at universities. Which isn't true.
    Milos, Ben, Jordan, Charles, Ann, Christina, Lauren, Faith, Matt, Mike, Stephan, Hirsi, Tommy, Adam, Joe, Desi-Rae, Camille, Brent, Eric and the #Walkaway movement and I had a good chuckle on that.