$12 billion bailout for farmers

Sledog said:

UWhuskytskeet said:

89ute said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

89ute said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

Deserves own thread? (It was talked about in another thread).

Summary of those responses? trade wars are a good thing. After all, trump announced today that he “loves tariffs.” Probably as much as he loves the poorly educated. Further, Troomps approve of welfare for US farmers, and having the federal government, not the free market, determine economic outcomes.

Explain to this poorly educated Trumptard this free market thing you speak of. See, I thought all along that other countries were tariffing the fuck out of imported US goods into their countries, if they even allowed them at all, while the good ole US and A imposed comparatively no tariffs at all.

I guess I need to be around more smart people like you.

Ok,
The US has led the 70 year post war effort to reduce tariffs barriers and establish a rule-based trading system. From gatt to wto, impediments to free trade have gradually and incrementally been reduced. Not eliminated but reduced to levels that have unleashed massive global prosperity. The biggest winner has been the US. America’s comparative advantage in high value added goods and services has created unprecedented wealth and prosperity. Us comparative advantage lies in skills and education. We create massive wealth and in return open our markets to low value added shit made elsewhere. It’s win-win with rules for adjudicating disputes.

Retreating from the system we built and prosper from, to protect obsolete low value goods created by unskilled and uneducated laggards, is the height of ignorance. Self defeatism at its core. Trumpism at its finest.

I don't see steel, aluminum, and autos as low value-added shit. All the shit in Walmart, yeah. Nike shoes, yeah, let Chinese kids make them. But when China has a world market share on steel of 47% it's a problem. Now if China could "fairly" produce steel cheaper than the rest of the world, so be it, let them prosper and profit from it. But they don't, it's state-sponsored.

I agree with what you're saying, but some of us think it has gone too far and needs to be rebalanced. There is a hell of a lot of global prosperity out there and those that are prospering, in my opinion, are not giving back like America has. Like China. Those motherfuckers need a tune up.

Get America humming along again, paychecks and prosperity for everyone then we can get back to this fixing the world shit.

I'm on the side that believes it's okay to take a step back, get your house in order, then get back to fixing everybody else.

Fuck the steel industry, bring on cheap Chinese steel. Free market.

Doesn't work well when we are at war with china or one of it's allies and have no steel or aluminum plants. This is a strategic industry that we must maintain.

Sledog said:

UWhuskytskeet said:

89ute said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

89ute said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

Deserves own thread? (It was talked about in another thread).

Summary of those responses? trade wars are a good thing. After all, trump announced today that he “loves tariffs.” Probably as much as he loves the poorly educated. Further, Troomps approve of welfare for US farmers, and having the federal government, not the free market, determine economic outcomes.

Explain to this poorly educated Trumptard this free market thing you speak of. See, I thought all along that other countries were tariffing the fuck out of imported US goods into their countries, if they even allowed them at all, while the good ole US and A imposed comparatively no tariffs at all.

I guess I need to be around more smart people like you.

Ok,
The US has led the 70 year post war effort to reduce tariffs barriers and establish a rule-based trading system. From gatt to wto, impediments to free trade have gradually and incrementally been reduced. Not eliminated but reduced to levels that have unleashed massive global prosperity. The biggest winner has been the US. America’s comparative advantage in high value added goods and services has created unprecedented wealth and prosperity. Us comparative advantage lies in skills and education. We create massive wealth and in return open our markets to low value added shit made elsewhere. It’s win-win with rules for adjudicating disputes.

Retreating from the system we built and prosper from, to protect obsolete low value goods created by unskilled and uneducated laggards, is the height of ignorance. Self defeatism at its core. Trumpism at its finest.

I don't see steel, aluminum, and autos as low value-added shit. All the shit in Walmart, yeah. Nike shoes, yeah, let Chinese kids make them. But when China has a world market share on steel of 47% it's a problem. Now if China could "fairly" produce steel cheaper than the rest of the world, so be it, let them prosper and profit from it. But they don't, it's state-sponsored.

I agree with what you're saying, but some of us think it has gone too far and needs to be rebalanced. There is a hell of a lot of global prosperity out there and those that are prospering, in my opinion, are not giving back like America has. Like China. Those motherfuckers need a tune up.

Get America humming along again, paychecks and prosperity for everyone then we can get back to this fixing the world shit.

I'm on the side that believes it's okay to take a step back, get your house in order, then get back to fixing everybody else.

Fuck the steel industry, bring on cheap Chinese steel. Free market.

Doesn't work well when we are at war with china or one of it's allies and have no steel or aluminum plants. This is a strategic industry that we must maintain.

RaceBannon said:

allpurpleallgold said:

How is he going to pay for this?

With tariffs

PurpleThrobber said:

Sledog said:

UWhuskytskeet said:

89ute said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

89ute said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

Deserves own thread? (It was talked about in another thread).

Summary of those responses? trade wars are a good thing. After all, trump announced today that he “loves tariffs.” Probably as much as he loves the poorly educated. Further, Troomps approve of welfare for US farmers, and having the federal government, not the free market, determine economic outcomes.

Explain to this poorly educated Trumptard this free market thing you speak of. See, I thought all along that other countries were tariffing the fuck out of imported US goods into their countries, if they even allowed them at all, while the good ole US and A imposed comparatively no tariffs at all.

I guess I need to be around more smart people like you.

Ok,
The US has led the 70 year post war effort to reduce tariffs barriers and establish a rule-based trading system. From gatt to wto, impediments to free trade have gradually and incrementally been reduced. Not eliminated but reduced to levels that have unleashed massive global prosperity. The biggest winner has been the US. America’s comparative advantage in high value added goods and services has created unprecedented wealth and prosperity. Us comparative advantage lies in skills and education. We create massive wealth and in return open our markets to low value added shit made elsewhere. It’s win-win with rules for adjudicating disputes.

Retreating from the system we built and prosper from, to protect obsolete low value goods created by unskilled and uneducated laggards, is the height of ignorance. Self defeatism at its core. Trumpism at its finest.

I don't see steel, aluminum, and autos as low value-added shit. All the shit in Walmart, yeah. Nike shoes, yeah, let Chinese kids make them. But when China has a world market share on steel of 47% it's a problem. Now if China could "fairly" produce steel cheaper than the rest of the world, so be it, let them prosper and profit from it. But they don't, it's state-sponsored.

I agree with what you're saying, but some of us think it has gone too far and needs to be rebalanced. There is a hell of a lot of global prosperity out there and those that are prospering, in my opinion, are not giving back like America has. Like China. Those motherfuckers need a tune up.

Get America humming along again, paychecks and prosperity for everyone then we can get back to this fixing the world shit.

I'm on the side that believes it's okay to take a step back, get your house in order, then get back to fixing everybody else.

Fuck the steel industry, bring on cheap Chinese steel. Free market.

Doesn't work well when we are at war with china or one of it's allies and have no steel or aluminum plants. This is a strategic industry that we must maintain.

No land war in Asia. Even Trump has seen Princess Bride. If not Mad Dog knows this.