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$12 billion bailout for farmers

insinceredawg
insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
The tariffs are working so well that we're going to have to bail out the farmers who are getting crushed in the trade war. So much winning! #MAGA

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/trump-to-offer-us-farmers-billions-to-ease-trade-pain

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  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    edited July 2018
    Deserves own thread? (It was talked about in another thread).

    Summary of those responses? trade wars are a good thing. After all, trump announced today that he “loves tariffs.” Probably as much as he loves the poorly educated. Further, Troomps approve of welfare for US farmers, and having the federal government, not the free market, determine economic outcomes.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,120 Founders Club
    Sounds like socialism. The left should be pleased.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,941 Founders Club

    Deserves own thread? (It was talked about in another thread).

    Summary of those responses? trade wars are a good thing. After all, trump announced today that he “loves tariffs.” Probably as much as he loves the poorly educated. Further, Troomps approve of welfare for US farmers, and having the federal government, not the free market, determine economic outcomes.

    That's what I am hearing too

    An "expert" said that in a war there will be casualties and Trump is performing triage. Thinks we? win this thing in the end
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    Swaye said:

    Fuck farmers white people. All of them I know drive around in 75K Ford pickups with thousand dollar boots lamenting the plight of the American farmer. Assholes.

    FTFY
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,788 Swaye's Wigwam
    Swaye said:

    Fuck farmers. All of them I know drive around in 75K Ford pickups with thousand dollar boots lamenting the plight of the American farmer. Assholes.

    now they can get rid of the 2017 truck and get a new one
  • Gwad
    Gwad Member Posts: 2,855
    Is food that important?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Gwad said:

    Is food that important?

    Trump likes wages to go up $30 a month and food, gas, etc to go up $60.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Democrats care about the little guys again

    Touching

    I heard Democrats spent 8 years stealing from the rich and giving to the poor.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club

    No you didn't

    You spent 8 years sucking Obama dick

    Guess Hondo loves the BBC.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Next they start naming their kids Traktor and wearing matching overalls like good little comrades.
  • 89ute
    89ute Member Posts: 2,485
    edited July 2018

    Deserves own thread? (It was talked about in another thread).

    Summary of those responses? trade wars are a good thing. After all, trump announced today that he “loves tariffs.” Probably as much as he loves the poorly educated. Further, Troomps approve of welfare for US farmers, and having the federal government, not the free market, determine economic outcomes.

    Explain to this poorly educated Trumptard this free market thing you speak of. See, I thought all along that other countries were tariffing the fuck out of imported US goods into their countries, if they even allowed them at all, while the good ole US and A imposed comparatively no tariffs at all.

    I guess I need to be around more smart people like you.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    89ute said:

    Deserves own thread? (It was talked about in another thread).

    Summary of those responses? trade wars are a good thing. After all, trump announced today that he “loves tariffs.” Probably as much as he loves the poorly educated. Further, Troomps approve of welfare for US farmers, and having the federal government, not the free market, determine economic outcomes.

    Explain to this poorly educated Trumptard this free market thing you speak of. See, I thought all along that other countries were tariffing the fuck out of imported US goods into their countries, if they even allowed them at all, while the good ole US and A imposed comparatively no tariffs at all.

    I guess I need to be around more smart people like you.
    Yes all the countries are robbing poor old US of A.
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    USMChawk said:

    What a waste of money. Could have used that for the wall.

    I like how you pussies completely let Trump off the hook for promising Mexico would pay for the wall.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    89ute said:

    Deserves own thread? (It was talked about in another thread).

    Summary of those responses? trade wars are a good thing. After all, trump announced today that he “loves tariffs.” Probably as much as he loves the poorly educated. Further, Troomps approve of welfare for US farmers, and having the federal government, not the free market, determine economic outcomes.

    Explain to this poorly educated Trumptard this free market thing you speak of. See, I thought all along that other countries were tariffing the fuck out of imported US goods into their countries, if they even allowed them at all, while the good ole US and A imposed comparatively no tariffs at all.

    I guess I need to be around more smart people like you.
    Ok,
    The US has led the 70 year post war effort to reduce tariffs barriers and establish a rule-based trading system. From gatt to wto, impediments to free trade have gradually and incrementally been reduced. Not eliminated but reduced to levels that have unleashed massive global prosperity. The biggest winner has been the US. America’s comparative advantage in high value added goods and services has created unprecedented wealth and prosperity. Us comparative advantage lies in skills and education. We create massive wealth and in return open our markets to low value added shit made elsewhere. It’s win-win with rules for adjudicating disputes.

    Retreating from the system we built and prosper from, to protect obsolete low value goods created by unskilled and uneducated laggards, is the height of ignorance. Self defeatism at its core. Trumpism at its finest.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,792 Standard Supporter

    89ute said:

    Deserves own thread? (It was talked about in another thread).

    Summary of those responses? trade wars are a good thing. After all, trump announced today that he “loves tariffs.” Probably as much as he loves the poorly educated. Further, Troomps approve of welfare for US farmers, and having the federal government, not the free market, determine economic outcomes.

    Explain to this poorly educated Trumptard this free market thing you speak of. See, I thought all along that other countries were tariffing the fuck out of imported US goods into their countries, if they even allowed them at all, while the good ole US and A imposed comparatively no tariffs at all.

    I guess I need to be around more smart people like you.
    Ok,
    The US has led the 70 year post war effort to reduce tariffs barriers and establish a rule-based trading system. From gatt to wto, impediments to free trade have gradually and incrementally been reduced. Not eliminated but reduced to levels that have unleashed massive global prosperity. The biggest winner has been the US. America’s comparative advantage in high value added goods and services has created unprecedented wealth and prosperity. Us comparative advantage lies in skills and education. We create massive wealth and in return open our markets to low value added shit made elsewhere. It’s win-win with rules for adjudicating disputes.

    Retreating from the system we built and prosper from, to protect obsolete low value goods created by unskilled and uneducated laggards, is the height of ignorance. Self defeatism at its core. Trumpism at its finest.
    What a crock of Bullshit!
  • 89ute
    89ute Member Posts: 2,485
    edited July 2018

    89ute said:

    Deserves own thread? (It was talked about in another thread).

    Summary of those responses? trade wars are a good thing. After all, trump announced today that he “loves tariffs.” Probably as much as he loves the poorly educated. Further, Troomps approve of welfare for US farmers, and having the federal government, not the free market, determine economic outcomes.

    Explain to this poorly educated Trumptard this free market thing you speak of. See, I thought all along that other countries were tariffing the fuck out of imported US goods into their countries, if they even allowed them at all, while the good ole US and A imposed comparatively no tariffs at all.

    I guess I need to be around more smart people like you.
    Ok,
    The US has led the 70 year post war effort to reduce tariffs barriers and establish a rule-based trading system. From gatt to wto, impediments to free trade have gradually and incrementally been reduced. Not eliminated but reduced to levels that have unleashed massive global prosperity. The biggest winner has been the US. America’s comparative advantage in high value added goods and services has created unprecedented wealth and prosperity. Us comparative advantage lies in skills and education. We create massive wealth and in return open our markets to low value added shit made elsewhere. It’s win-win with rules for adjudicating disputes.

    Retreating from the system we built and prosper from, to protect obsolete low value goods created by unskilled and uneducated laggards, is the height of ignorance. Self defeatism at its core. Trumpism at its finest.
    I don't see steel, aluminum, and autos as low value-added shit. All the shit in Walmart, yeah. Nike shoes, yeah, let Chinese kids make them. But when China has a world market share on steel of 47% it's a problem. Now if China could "fairly" produce steel cheaper than the rest of the world, so be it, let them prosper and profit from it. But they don't, it's state-sponsored.

    I agree with what you're saying, but some of us think it has gone too far and needs to be rebalanced. There is a hell of a lot of global prosperity out there and those that are prospering, in my opinion, are not giving back like America has. Like China. Those motherfuckers need a tune up.

    Get America humming along again, paychecks and prosperity for everyone then we can get back to this fixing the world shit.

    I'm on the side that believes it's okay to take a step back, get your house in order, then get back to fixing everybody else.
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    89ute said:

    89ute said:

    Deserves own thread? (It was talked about in another thread).

    Summary of those responses? trade wars are a good thing. After all, trump announced today that he “loves tariffs.” Probably as much as he loves the poorly educated. Further, Troomps approve of welfare for US farmers, and having the federal government, not the free market, determine economic outcomes.

    Explain to this poorly educated Trumptard this free market thing you speak of. See, I thought all along that other countries were tariffing the fuck out of imported US goods into their countries, if they even allowed them at all, while the good ole US and A imposed comparatively no tariffs at all.

    I guess I need to be around more smart people like you.
    Ok,
    The US has led the 70 year post war effort to reduce tariffs barriers and establish a rule-based trading system. From gatt to wto, impediments to free trade have gradually and incrementally been reduced. Not eliminated but reduced to levels that have unleashed massive global prosperity. The biggest winner has been the US. America’s comparative advantage in high value added goods and services has created unprecedented wealth and prosperity. Us comparative advantage lies in skills and education. We create massive wealth and in return open our markets to low value added shit made elsewhere. It’s win-win with rules for adjudicating disputes.

    Retreating from the system we built and prosper from, to protect obsolete low value goods created by unskilled and uneducated laggards, is the height of ignorance. Self defeatism at its core. Trumpism at its finest.
    I don't see steel, aluminum, and autos as low value-added shit. All the shit in Walmart, yeah. Nike shoes, yeah, let Chinese kids make them. But when China has a world market share on steel of 47% it's a problem. Now if China could "fairly" produce steel cheaper than the rest of the world, so be it, let them prosper and profit from it. But they don't, it's state-sponsored.

    I agree with what you're saying, but some of us think it has gone too far and needs to be rebalanced. There is a hell of a lot of global prosperity out there and those that are prospering, in my opinion, are not giving back like America has. Like China. Those motherfuckers need a tune up.

    Get America humming along again, paychecks and prosperity for everyone then we can get back to this fixing the world shit.

    I'm on the side that believes it's okay to take a step back, get your house in order, then get back to fixing everybody else.
    Fuck the steel industry, bring on cheap Chinese steel. Free market.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    89ute said:

    Deserves own thread? (It was talked about in another thread).

    Summary of those responses? trade wars are a good thing. After all, trump announced today that he “loves tariffs.” Probably as much as he loves the poorly educated. Further, Troomps approve of welfare for US farmers, and having the federal government, not the free market, determine economic outcomes.

    Explain to this poorly educated Trumptard this free market thing you speak of. See, I thought all along that other countries were tariffing the fuck out of imported US goods into their countries, if they even allowed them at all, while the good ole US and A imposed comparatively no tariffs at all.

    I guess I need to be around more smart people like you.
    Ok,
    The US has led the 70 year post war effort to reduce tariffs barriers and establish a rule-based trading system. From gatt to wto, impediments to free trade have gradually and incrementally been reduced. Not eliminated but reduced to levels that have unleashed massive global prosperity. The biggest winner has been the US. America’s comparative advantage in high value added goods and services has created unprecedented wealth and prosperity. Us comparative advantage lies in skills and education. We create massive wealth and in return open our markets to low value added shit made elsewhere. It’s win-win with rules for adjudicating disputes.

    Retreating from the system we built and prosper from, to protect obsolete low value goods created by unskilled and uneducated laggards, is the height of ignorance. Self defeatism at its core. Trumpism at its finest.
    Stop being factual. Free market conservatives hate the free market when Trump tells them to.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    89ute said:

    89ute said:

    Deserves own thread? (It was talked about in another thread).

    Summary of those responses? trade wars are a good thing. After all, trump announced today that he “loves tariffs.” Probably as much as he loves the poorly educated. Further, Troomps approve of welfare for US farmers, and having the federal government, not the free market, determine economic outcomes.

    Explain to this poorly educated Trumptard this free market thing you speak of. See, I thought all along that other countries were tariffing the fuck out of imported US goods into their countries, if they even allowed them at all, while the good ole US and A imposed comparatively no tariffs at all.

    I guess I need to be around more smart people like you.
    Ok,
    The US has led the 70 year post war effort to reduce tariffs barriers and establish a rule-based trading system. From gatt to wto, impediments to free trade have gradually and incrementally been reduced. Not eliminated but reduced to levels that have unleashed massive global prosperity. The biggest winner has been the US. America’s comparative advantage in high value added goods and services has created unprecedented wealth and prosperity. Us comparative advantage lies in skills and education. We create massive wealth and in return open our markets to low value added shit made elsewhere. It’s win-win with rules for adjudicating disputes.

    Retreating from the system we built and prosper from, to protect obsolete low value goods created by unskilled and uneducated laggards, is the height of ignorance. Self defeatism at its core. Trumpism at its finest.
    I don't see steel, aluminum, and autos as low value-added shit. All the shit in Walmart, yeah. Nike shoes, yeah, let Chinese kids make them. But when China has a world market share on steel of 47% it's a problem. Now if China could "fairly" produce steel cheaper than the rest of the world, so be it, let them prosper and profit from it. But they don't, it's state-sponsored.

    I agree with what you're saying, but some of us think it has gone too far and needs to be rebalanced. There is a hell of a lot of global prosperity out there and those that are prospering, in my opinion, are not giving back like America has. Like China. Those motherfuckers need a tune up.

    Get America humming along again, paychecks and prosperity for everyone then we can get back to this fixing the world shit.

    I'm on the side that believes it's okay to take a step back, get your house in order, then get back to fixing everybody else.
    Well you're also basically a Nazi now.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    89ute said:

    89ute said:

    Deserves own thread? (It was talked about in another thread).

    Summary of those responses? trade wars are a good thing. After all, trump announced today that he “loves tariffs.” Probably as much as he loves the poorly educated. Further, Troomps approve of welfare for US farmers, and having the federal government, not the free market, determine economic outcomes.

    Explain to this poorly educated Trumptard this free market thing you speak of. See, I thought all along that other countries were tariffing the fuck out of imported US goods into their countries, if they even allowed them at all, while the good ole US and A imposed comparatively no tariffs at all.

    I guess I need to be around more smart people like you.
    Ok,
    The US has led the 70 year post war effort to reduce tariffs barriers and establish a rule-based trading system. From gatt to wto, impediments to free trade have gradually and incrementally been reduced. Not eliminated but reduced to levels that have unleashed massive global prosperity. The biggest winner has been the US. America’s comparative advantage in high value added goods and services has created unprecedented wealth and prosperity. Us comparative advantage lies in skills and education. We create massive wealth and in return open our markets to low value added shit made elsewhere. It’s win-win with rules for adjudicating disputes.

    Retreating from the system we built and prosper from, to protect obsolete low value goods created by unskilled and uneducated laggards, is the height of ignorance. Self defeatism at its core. Trumpism at its finest.
    I don't see steel, aluminum, and autos as low value-added shit. All the shit in Walmart, yeah. Nike shoes, yeah, let Chinese kids make them. But when China has a world market share on steel of 47% it's a problem. Now if China could "fairly" produce steel cheaper than the rest of the world, so be it, let them prosper and profit from it. But they don't, it's state-sponsored.

    I agree with what you're saying, but some of us think it has gone too far and needs to be rebalanced. There is a hell of a lot of global prosperity out there and those that are prospering, in my opinion, are not giving back like America has. Like China. Those motherfuckers need a tune up.

    Get America humming along again, paychecks and prosperity for everyone then we can get back to this fixing the world shit.

    I'm on the side that believes it's okay to take a step back, get your house in order, then get back to fixing everybody else.
    How exactly are tariffs going get America humming along with paychecks and prosperity for everyone?
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,792 Standard Supporter

    89ute said:

    89ute said:

    Deserves own thread? (It was talked about in another thread).

    Summary of those responses? trade wars are a good thing. After all, trump announced today that he “loves tariffs.” Probably as much as he loves the poorly educated. Further, Troomps approve of welfare for US farmers, and having the federal government, not the free market, determine economic outcomes.

    Explain to this poorly educated Trumptard this free market thing you speak of. See, I thought all along that other countries were tariffing the fuck out of imported US goods into their countries, if they even allowed them at all, while the good ole US and A imposed comparatively no tariffs at all.

    I guess I need to be around more smart people like you.
    Ok,
    The US has led the 70 year post war effort to reduce tariffs barriers and establish a rule-based trading system. From gatt to wto, impediments to free trade have gradually and incrementally been reduced. Not eliminated but reduced to levels that have unleashed massive global prosperity. The biggest winner has been the US. America’s comparative advantage in high value added goods and services has created unprecedented wealth and prosperity. Us comparative advantage lies in skills and education. We create massive wealth and in return open our markets to low value added shit made elsewhere. It’s win-win with rules for adjudicating disputes.

    Retreating from the system we built and prosper from, to protect obsolete low value goods created by unskilled and uneducated laggards, is the height of ignorance. Self defeatism at its core. Trumpism at its finest.
    I don't see steel, aluminum, and autos as low value-added shit. All the shit in Walmart, yeah. Nike shoes, yeah, let Chinese kids make them. But when China has a world market share on steel of 47% it's a problem. Now if China could "fairly" produce steel cheaper than the rest of the world, so be it, let them prosper and profit from it. But they don't, it's state-sponsored.

    I agree with what you're saying, but some of us think it has gone too far and needs to be rebalanced. There is a hell of a lot of global prosperity out there and those that are prospering, in my opinion, are not giving back like America has. Like China. Those motherfuckers need a tune up.

    Get America humming along again, paychecks and prosperity for everyone then we can get back to this fixing the world shit.

    I'm on the side that believes it's okay to take a step back, get your house in order, then get back to fixing everybody else.
    Fuck the steel industry, bring on cheap Chinese steel. Free market.
    Doesn't work well when we are at war with china or one of it's allies and have no steel or aluminum plants. This is a strategic industry that we must maintain.