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The Bush Hamdan effect

Gladstone
Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
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When he was named WRs coach in 2016, the production at that position group was significantly and immediately elevated. Ross could suddenly run routes and play intelligently. Pettis took a huge leap. Fuller looked like a future star in the slot. They all became very good blockers etc.

Might we see another bump in 2018? Not only in WR play but QB (ha ha)? Can he at least scheme and playcall to our strengths (RBs, OL, TEs) instead of the grabbag sack of shit Smith gave us? Can he neuter Browning's audible ability?

I think the Smith-->Bush transition will be more obvious than the Kawasaki-->Noballs one.




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  • animate
    animate Member Posts: 4,245
    I secretly came when I heard he was coming back. This is going to be a good 2-4 years
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  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369
    Pitchfork51 said:

    with sark gone, i dont see much hope for the O

    Sark will end up in Tempe before the next presidential election. OC, Sumlin recruiting neutralizer, coach in waiting.

    Sark v. Sark
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  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    WeakarmCobra said:

    Pitchfork51 said:

    with sark gone, i dont see much hope for the O

    Peterman owes his success to sarks recruiting
    true
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    WeakarmCobra said:

    Pitchfork51 said:

    with sark gone, i dont see much hope for the O

    Peterman owes his success to sarks recruiting
    Jake Browning wouldn't have happened without Sark. Think about it.
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  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    UWhuskytskeet said:

    I have a shitty feeling the offense is going to be called the same. Will make for fun time on the boreds though.

    At least we will make more terrorist jokes
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  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Gladstone said:

    UWhuskytskeet said:

    I have a shitty feeling the offense is going to be called the same. Will make for fun time on the boreds though.

    Criticism in that case goes to Pete not bush.
    what? they both should be blamed if they have same abomination of an offense they did last year
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  • DeepSeaZ
    DeepSeaZ Member Posts: 3,901
    Gladstone said:

    UWhuskytskeet said:

    I have a shitty feeling the offense is going to be called the same. Will make for fun time on the boreds though.

    Criticism in that case goes to Pete not bush.
    I rarely criticize Bush
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  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
    WeakarmCobra said:

    Gladstone said:

    UWhuskytskeet said:

    I have a shitty feeling the offense is going to be called the same. Will make for fun time on the boreds though.

    Criticism in that case goes to Pete not bush.
    what? they both should be blamed if they have same abomination of an offense they did last year
    my point being that will confirm beyond all modicum of doubt that pete has a tight grip on the scheme/playcalling and any OC in place is merely running his system and doesn't have much in the way of originality/variance
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,127
    Gladstone said:

    WeakarmCobra said:

    Gladstone said:

    UWhuskytskeet said:

    I have a shitty feeling the offense is going to be called the same. Will make for fun time on the boreds though.

    Criticism in that case goes to Pete not bush.
    what? they both should be blamed if they have same abomination of an offense they did last year
    my point being that will confirm beyond all modicum of doubt that pete has a tight grip on the scheme/playcalling and any OC in place is merely running his system and doesn't have much in the way of originality/variance
    He certainly does. Pete was quoted on day one of Spring Ball saying they like their offense and talking about how cool it was that Bush was familiar with it.
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  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
    RoadDawg55 said:

    Gladstone said:

    WeakarmCobra said:

    Gladstone said:

    UWhuskytskeet said:

    I have a shitty feeling the offense is going to be called the same. Will make for fun time on the boreds though.

    Criticism in that case goes to Pete not bush.
    what? they both should be blamed if they have same abomination of an offense they did last year
    my point being that will confirm beyond all modicum of doubt that pete has a tight grip on the scheme/playcalling and any OC in place is merely running his system and doesn't have much in the way of originality/variance
    He certainly does. Pete was quoted on day one of Spring Ball saying they like their offense and talking about how cool it was that Bush was familiar with it.
    I mean more for situational playcalling. But yeah you're right. Fuck.
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  • AIRWOLF
    AIRWOLF Member Posts: 1,840
    RoadDawg55 said:

    Gladstone said:

    WeakarmCobra said:

    Gladstone said:

    UWhuskytskeet said:

    I have a shitty feeling the offense is going to be called the same. Will make for fun time on the boreds though.

    Criticism in that case goes to Pete not bush.
    what? they both should be blamed if they have same abomination of an offense they did last year
    my point being that will confirm beyond all modicum of doubt that pete has a tight grip on the scheme/playcalling and any OC in place is merely running his system and doesn't have much in the way of originality/variance
    He certainly does. Pete was quoted on day one of Spring Ball saying they like their offense and talking about how cool it was that Bush was familiar with it.
    Petersen tried handing the full reigns of the offense over to an OC at Boise State. Robert Prince was the OC for two seasons and he pretty much junked the "classic" BSU offense and went to a very simplified up-tempo pistol system. They were easily the two worst offenses of Petersen's tenure there.

    So he probably learned a lesson from that. Unfortunately maybe the wrong lesson.

    While I would love to see UW run a different offense that is easier to learn and can be played at tempo, it isn't happening now. And probably never will.

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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,277 Founders Club
    RoadDawg55 said:

    Gladstone said:

    WeakarmCobra said:

    Gladstone said:

    UWhuskytskeet said:

    I have a shitty feeling the offense is going to be called the same. Will make for fun time on the boreds though.

    Criticism in that case goes to Pete not bush.
    what? they both should be blamed if they have same abomination of an offense they did last year
    my point being that will confirm beyond all modicum of doubt that pete has a tight grip on the scheme/playcalling and any OC in place is merely running his system and doesn't have much in the way of originality/variance
    He certainly does. Pete was quoted on day one of Spring Ball saying they like their offense and talking about how cool it was that Bush was familiar with it.
    Maybe he’s playing mind games with the rest of the conference???!?!!!?
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  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    AIRWOLF said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    Gladstone said:

    WeakarmCobra said:

    Gladstone said:

    UWhuskytskeet said:

    I have a shitty feeling the offense is going to be called the same. Will make for fun time on the boreds though.

    Criticism in that case goes to Pete not bush.
    what? they both should be blamed if they have same abomination of an offense they did last year
    my point being that will confirm beyond all modicum of doubt that pete has a tight grip on the scheme/playcalling and any OC in place is merely running his system and doesn't have much in the way of originality/variance
    He certainly does. Pete was quoted on day one of Spring Ball saying they like their offense and talking about how cool it was that Bush was familiar with it.
    Petersen tried handing the full reigns of the offense over to an OC at Boise State. Robert Prince was the OC for two seasons and he pretty much junked the "classic" BSU offense and went to a very simplified up-tempo pistol system. They were easily the two worst offenses of Petersen's tenure there.

    So he probably learned a lesson from that. Unfortunately maybe the wrong lesson.

    While I would love to see UW run a different offense that is easier to learn and can be played at tempo, it isn't happening now. And probably never will.

    Or it could be argued that if he was willing to do it once he could do it again- just with the right OC.

    Obviously not Smith.
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  • HUSKYFANATIC
    HUSKYFANATIC Member Posts: 1,651
    #mybush
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  • NeGgaPlEaSe
    NeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,756
    AIRWOLF said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    Gladstone said:

    WeakarmCobra said:

    Gladstone said:

    UWhuskytskeet said:

    I have a shitty feeling the offense is going to be called the same. Will make for fun time on the boreds though.

    Criticism in that case goes to Pete not bush.
    what? they both should be blamed if they have same abomination of an offense they did last year
    my point being that will confirm beyond all modicum of doubt that pete has a tight grip on the scheme/playcalling and any OC in place is merely running his system and doesn't have much in the way of originality/variance
    He certainly does. Pete was quoted on day one of Spring Ball saying they like their offense and talking about how cool it was that Bush was familiar with it.
    Petersen tried handing the full reigns of the offense over to an OC at Boise State. Robert Prince was the OC for two seasons and he pretty much junked the "classic" BSU offense and went to a very simplified up-tempo pistol system. They were easily the two worst offenses of Petersen's tenure there.

    So he probably learned a lesson from that. Unfortunately maybe the wrong lesson.

    While I would love to see UW run a different offense that is easier to learn and can be played at tempo, it isn't happening now. And probably never will.

    How much simpler can it get? Hand the ball to Gaskin, hand the ball to Gaskin, throw to Savon or Bryant?
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  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    AIRWOLF said:

    UWhuskytskeet said:

    I have a shitty feeling the offense is going to be called the same. Will make for fun time on the boreds though.

    He can make a huge difference by simply making better choices on like a half dozen plays a game. As much as I would love to believe that he may have a significantly larger impact than that, I will be very happy with him simply not calling a handful of momentum killing Smiff Specials and being a little more stubborn about running the ball.
    So you're saying you DON'T enjoy seeing passing plays on 3 of 4 downs each series?
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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,044 Founders Club
    BaldwinIV said:

    Herbstreit on ESPN Columbus, WBNS 1460 AM this morning said Hamdan is the most underrated OC hire in the offseason and that the offense will be "staggeringly" improved.

    prayingdoog.gif

    #mybush
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  • Gwad
    Gwad Member Posts: 2,855
    edited July 2018
    BaldwinIV said:

    Herbstreit on ESPN Columbus, WBNS 1460 AM this morning said Hamdan is the most underrated OC hire in the offseason and that the offense will be "staggeringly" improved.

    I agree. It will be like that time babushka had to bring his sippy cup to the kids table to make room for uncle Jeff.
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    BaldwinIV said:

    Herbstreit on ESPN Columbus, WBNS 1460 AM this morning said Hamdan is the most underrated OC hire in the offseason and that the offense will be "staggeringly" improved.

    He'll have cupcakes on the sideline at the Auburn game.
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  • Squirt
    Squirt Member Posts: 485
    I am just thankful that the ESPN people talk about the UW at all.
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  • Miley_Cyrus
    Miley_Cyrus Member Posts: 832
    Best playcaller in America?
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