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Hey wait a second... Has that pic been PhotoShopped?allpurpleallgold said:
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I don't get it
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But...but...I see articles that say it’s just Russian bots posting these things.
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Huh?
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That would explain APAGs random politics generator.greenblood said:But...but...I see articles that say it’s just Russian bots posting these things.
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Make APAG Great AgainSoutherndawg said:
That would explain APAGs random politics generator.greenblood said:But...but...I see articles that say it’s just Russian bots posting these things.
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Can't be. It's on the internet.DerekJohnson said:
Hey wait a second... Has that pic been PhotoShopped?allpurpleallgold said: -
You can make fun of #walkaway and all but the party split for the Dems is real and already happened last election cycle.
You've got working class whites, union members, etc.
You've got SJW's, socialists, and other off brand minority groups like feminist muslims.
You've got blacks and hispanics which are more socialist in politics but conservative in their values.
Then you've got the leadership which is corporate, globalist, and free trade.
Trump managed to resonate with a bunch of the first while Hilldog managed to alienate a bunch of the first and second.
Explain what the current platform that will unite these disparate interests for the Dems is. The current strategy seems to be #NotTrump which isn't the worst strategy to win votes but also doesn't offer anything of substance. -
#nothillary seemed to work for Trump.UW_Doog_Bot said:You can make fun of #walkaway and all but the party split for the Dems is real and already happened last election cycle.
You've got working class whites, union members, etc.
You've got SJW's, socialists, and other off brand minority groups like feminist muslims.
You've got blacks and hispanics which are more socialist in politics but conservative in their values.
Then you've got the leadership which is corporate, globalist, and free trade.
Trump managed to resonate with a bunch of the first while Hilldog managed to alienate a bunch of the first and second.
Explain what the current platform that will unite these disparate interests for the Dems is. The current strategy seems to be #NotTrump which isn't the worst strategy to win votes but also doesn't offer anything of substance. -
Until the Dems rid themselves of that ilk, they are fucked with a capital F.UW_Doog_Bot said:You can make fun of #walkaway and all but the party split for the Dems is real and already happened last election cycle.
You've got working class whites, union members, etc.
You've got SJW's, socialists, and other off brand minority groups like feminist muslims.
You've got blacks and hispanics which are more socialist in politics but conservative in their values.
Then you've got the leadership which is corporate, globalist, and free trade.
Trump managed to resonate with a bunch of the first while Hilldog managed to alienate a bunch of the first and second.
Explain what the current platform that will unite these disparate interests for the Dems is. The current strategy seems to be #NotTrump which isn't the worst strategy to win votes but also doesn't offer anything of substance.
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Trump ran on issues he is currently working to implement
Not surprised hondo with the FS equivalence take -
Huh?PurpleThrobber said:
Until the Dems rid themselves of that ilk, they are fucked with a capital F.UW_Doog_Bot said:You can make fun of #walkaway and all but the party split for the Dems is real and already happened last election cycle.
You've got working class whites, union members, etc.
You've got SJW's, socialists, and other off brand minority groups like feminist muslims.
You've got blacks and hispanics which are more socialist in politics but conservative in their values.
Then you've got the leadership which is corporate, globalist, and free trade.
Trump managed to resonate with a bunch of the first while Hilldog managed to alienate a bunch of the first and second.
Explain what the current platform that will unite these disparate interests for the Dems is. The current strategy seems to be #NotTrump which isn't the worst strategy to win votes but also doesn't offer anything of substance.
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Only because like I said, he resonated with the first group while she alienated others. It split the party. Kind of the point of my poast. #notTrump isn't going to split the GOP.2001400ex said:
#nothillary seemed to work for Trump.UW_Doog_Bot said:You can make fun of #walkaway and all but the party split for the Dems is real and already happened last election cycle.
You've got working class whites, union members, etc.
You've got SJW's, socialists, and other off brand minority groups like feminist muslims.
You've got blacks and hispanics which are more socialist in politics but conservative in their values.
Then you've got the leadership which is corporate, globalist, and free trade.
Trump managed to resonate with a bunch of the first while Hilldog managed to alienate a bunch of the first and second.
Explain what the current platform that will unite these disparate interests for the Dems is. The current strategy seems to be #NotTrump which isn't the worst strategy to win votes but also doesn't offer anything of substance. -
The one thing Trump was smart about. Most of the GOP would have stayed home except for one issue. This comment was the only thing Trump did right: "Do you want Hillary selecting the next 2 supreme Court justices". That United the GOP and brought them to the polls.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Only because like I said, he resonated with the first group while she alienated others. It split the party. Kind of the point of my poast. #notTrump isn't going to split the GOP.2001400ex said:
#nothillary seemed to work for Trump.UW_Doog_Bot said:You can make fun of #walkaway and all but the party split for the Dems is real and already happened last election cycle.
You've got working class whites, union members, etc.
You've got SJW's, socialists, and other off brand minority groups like feminist muslims.
You've got blacks and hispanics which are more socialist in politics but conservative in their values.
Then you've got the leadership which is corporate, globalist, and free trade.
Trump managed to resonate with a bunch of the first while Hilldog managed to alienate a bunch of the first and second.
Explain what the current platform that will unite these disparate interests for the Dems is. The current strategy seems to be #NotTrump which isn't the worst strategy to win votes but also doesn't offer anything of substance. -
You're not wrong but your also not speaking to the point which wasn't, "How will the GOP stay united?"2001400ex said:
The one thing Trump was smart about. Most of the GOP would have stayed home except for one issue. This comment was the only thing Trump did right: "Do you want Hillary selecting the next 2 supreme Court justices". That United the GOP and brought them to the polls.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Only because like I said, he resonated with the first group while she alienated others. It split the party. Kind of the point of my poast. #notTrump isn't going to split the GOP.2001400ex said:
#nothillary seemed to work for Trump.UW_Doog_Bot said:You can make fun of #walkaway and all but the party split for the Dems is real and already happened last election cycle.
You've got working class whites, union members, etc.
You've got SJW's, socialists, and other off brand minority groups like feminist muslims.
You've got blacks and hispanics which are more socialist in politics but conservative in their values.
Then you've got the leadership which is corporate, globalist, and free trade.
Trump managed to resonate with a bunch of the first while Hilldog managed to alienate a bunch of the first and second.
Explain what the current platform that will unite these disparate interests for the Dems is. The current strategy seems to be #NotTrump which isn't the worst strategy to win votes but also doesn't offer anything of substance.
It's about the Dems. Hth. -
Rift Emerges Among Democrats Over Leftward Shift
Since Hillary Clinton lost to President Donald Trump, the loudest voices in the Democratic Party have been jockeying to see who can tout the most liberal policies. Sen. Chris Coons is over it.
The Delaware Democrat this week launched a one-man campaign imploring his party to exchange “pie-in-the-sky” promises such as abolishing the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, or ICE, for pragmatic policies. Without naming names, the subject of his ire was clear: Democratic colleagues aiming to win favor from the party’s liberal base as they test out 2020 presidential bids.
“Some members of our party, I fear, are instead taking the easy road, and proposing ideas that might sound great in a tweet, like free college, and free health care,” Mr. Coons said in a speech to New Democracy, a centrist Democratic group.
“If the next two years is just a race to offer increasingly unrealistic proposals, to rally just those who are already with us, our strongest supporters, it’ll be difficult for us to make a credible case we should be allowed to govern again,” he warned.“The Democratic tent better be really big and there better not be litmus tests or we’ll never defeat Trump and regain congressional majorities,” said Matt Bennett, a co-founder and senior vice president at Third Way, a centrist Democratic think tank.
Mr. Coons’s sharply worded critique of the party’s left wing was unusual because while many congressional Democrats privately agree with him, few are willing to say so publicly. -
Anyone who says they want to abolish ICE is fucktarded. The majority of the voters are dimwits and all they hear when that's repeated is "open borders". Even tho no one is saying open borders.GrundleStiltzkin said:Rift Emerges Among Democrats Over Leftward Shift
Since Hillary Clinton lost to President Donald Trump, the loudest voices in the Democratic Party have been jockeying to see who can tout the most liberal policies. Sen. Chris Coons is over it.
The Delaware Democrat this week launched a one-man campaign imploring his party to exchange “pie-in-the-sky” promises such as abolishing the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, or ICE, for pragmatic policies. Without naming names, the subject of his ire was clear: Democratic colleagues aiming to win favor from the party’s liberal base as they test out 2020 presidential bids.
“Some members of our party, I fear, are instead taking the easy road, and proposing ideas that might sound great in a tweet, like free college, and free health care,” Mr. Coons said in a speech to New Democracy, a centrist Democratic group.
“If the next two years is just a race to offer increasingly unrealistic proposals, to rally just those who are already with us, our strongest supporters, it’ll be difficult for us to make a credible case we should be allowed to govern again,” he warned.“The Democratic tent better be really big and there better not be litmus tests or we’ll never defeat Trump and regain congressional majorities,” said Matt Bennett, a co-founder and senior vice president at Third Way, a centrist Democratic think tank.
Mr. Coons’s sharply worded critique of the party’s left wing was unusual because while many congressional Democrats privately agree with him, few are willing to say so publicly. -
That's what the vocal wing of your? party is proposing.2001400ex said:
Anyone who says they want to abolish ICE is fucktarded. The majority of the voters are dimwits and all they hear when that's repeated is "open borders". Even tho no one is saying open borders.GrundleStiltzkin said:Rift Emerges Among Democrats Over Leftward Shift
Since Hillary Clinton lost to President Donald Trump, the loudest voices in the Democratic Party have been jockeying to see who can tout the most liberal policies. Sen. Chris Coons is over it.
The Delaware Democrat this week launched a one-man campaign imploring his party to exchange “pie-in-the-sky” promises such as abolishing the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, or ICE, for pragmatic policies. Without naming names, the subject of his ire was clear: Democratic colleagues aiming to win favor from the party’s liberal base as they test out 2020 presidential bids.
“Some members of our party, I fear, are instead taking the easy road, and proposing ideas that might sound great in a tweet, like free college, and free health care,” Mr. Coons said in a speech to New Democracy, a centrist Democratic group.
“If the next two years is just a race to offer increasingly unrealistic proposals, to rally just those who are already with us, our strongest supporters, it’ll be difficult for us to make a credible case we should be allowed to govern again,” he warned.“The Democratic tent better be really big and there better not be litmus tests or we’ll never defeat Trump and regain congressional majorities,” said Matt Bennett, a co-founder and senior vice president at Third Way, a centrist Democratic think tank.
Mr. Coons’s sharply worded critique of the party’s left wing was unusual because while many congressional Democrats privately agree with him, few are willing to say so publicly.
Helps Trump imo -
Sure, so what is the reasonable "centrist" Democratic platform alternative? I'm still waiting to hear it.2001400ex said:
Anyone who says they want to abolish ICE is fucktarded. The majority of the voters are dimwits and all they hear when that's repeated is "open borders". Even tho no one is saying open borders.GrundleStiltzkin said:Rift Emerges Among Democrats Over Leftward Shift
Since Hillary Clinton lost to President Donald Trump, the loudest voices in the Democratic Party have been jockeying to see who can tout the most liberal policies. Sen. Chris Coons is over it.
The Delaware Democrat this week launched a one-man campaign imploring his party to exchange “pie-in-the-sky” promises such as abolishing the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, or ICE, for pragmatic policies. Without naming names, the subject of his ire was clear: Democratic colleagues aiming to win favor from the party’s liberal base as they test out 2020 presidential bids.
“Some members of our party, I fear, are instead taking the easy road, and proposing ideas that might sound great in a tweet, like free college, and free health care,” Mr. Coons said in a speech to New Democracy, a centrist Democratic group.
“If the next two years is just a race to offer increasingly unrealistic proposals, to rally just those who are already with us, our strongest supporters, it’ll be difficult for us to make a credible case we should be allowed to govern again,” he warned.“The Democratic tent better be really big and there better not be litmus tests or we’ll never defeat Trump and regain congressional majorities,” said Matt Bennett, a co-founder and senior vice president at Third Way, a centrist Democratic think tank.
Mr. Coons’s sharply worded critique of the party’s left wing was unusual because while many congressional Democrats privately agree with him, few are willing to say so publicly. -
#notmypartyGrundleStiltzkin said:
That's what the vocal wing of your? party is proposing.2001400ex said:
Anyone who says they want to abolish ICE is fucktarded. The majority of the voters are dimwits and all they hear when that's repeated is "open borders". Even tho no one is saying open borders.GrundleStiltzkin said:Rift Emerges Among Democrats Over Leftward Shift
Since Hillary Clinton lost to President Donald Trump, the loudest voices in the Democratic Party have been jockeying to see who can tout the most liberal policies. Sen. Chris Coons is over it.
The Delaware Democrat this week launched a one-man campaign imploring his party to exchange “pie-in-the-sky” promises such as abolishing the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, or ICE, for pragmatic policies. Without naming names, the subject of his ire was clear: Democratic colleagues aiming to win favor from the party’s liberal base as they test out 2020 presidential bids.
“Some members of our party, I fear, are instead taking the easy road, and proposing ideas that might sound great in a tweet, like free college, and free health care,” Mr. Coons said in a speech to New Democracy, a centrist Democratic group.
“If the next two years is just a race to offer increasingly unrealistic proposals, to rally just those who are already with us, our strongest supporters, it’ll be difficult for us to make a credible case we should be allowed to govern again,” he warned.“The Democratic tent better be really big and there better not be litmus tests or we’ll never defeat Trump and regain congressional majorities,” said Matt Bennett, a co-founder and senior vice president at Third Way, a centrist Democratic think tank.
Mr. Coons’s sharply worded critique of the party’s left wing was unusual because while many congressional Democrats privately agree with him, few are willing to say so publicly.
Helps Trump imo
#neverbeenademocrat
#allpoliticiansareawful -
You don't want to hear it. It's very easy to find. There's 450 plus Democrats running for Congress this fall. It's not hard to find the platform. But all you want to hear is the few fucktarded fringe candidates and paint that across everyone.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure, so what is the reasonable "centrist" Democratic platform alternative? I'm still waiting to hear it.2001400ex said:
Anyone who says they want to abolish ICE is fucktarded. The majority of the voters are dimwits and all they hear when that's repeated is "open borders". Even tho no one is saying open borders.GrundleStiltzkin said:Rift Emerges Among Democrats Over Leftward Shift
Since Hillary Clinton lost to President Donald Trump, the loudest voices in the Democratic Party have been jockeying to see who can tout the most liberal policies. Sen. Chris Coons is over it.
The Delaware Democrat this week launched a one-man campaign imploring his party to exchange “pie-in-the-sky” promises such as abolishing the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, or ICE, for pragmatic policies. Without naming names, the subject of his ire was clear: Democratic colleagues aiming to win favor from the party’s liberal base as they test out 2020 presidential bids.
“Some members of our party, I fear, are instead taking the easy road, and proposing ideas that might sound great in a tweet, like free college, and free health care,” Mr. Coons said in a speech to New Democracy, a centrist Democratic group.
“If the next two years is just a race to offer increasingly unrealistic proposals, to rally just those who are already with us, our strongest supporters, it’ll be difficult for us to make a credible case we should be allowed to govern again,” he warned.“The Democratic tent better be really big and there better not be litmus tests or we’ll never defeat Trump and regain congressional majorities,” said Matt Bennett, a co-founder and senior vice president at Third Way, a centrist Democratic think tank.
Mr. Coons’s sharply worded critique of the party’s left wing was unusual because while many congressional Democrats privately agree with him, few are willing to say so publicly. -
What’s a centrist? I’m hearing if 1% ers and establishment types don’t stop mocking white trash troomptards you all are going to punish us again and vote for trump.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure, so what is the reasonable "centrist" Democratic platform alternative? I'm still waiting to hear it.2001400ex said:
Anyone who says they want to abolish ICE is fucktarded. The majority of the voters are dimwits and all they hear when that's repeated is "open borders". Even tho no one is saying open borders.GrundleStiltzkin said:Rift Emerges Among Democrats Over Leftward Shift
Since Hillary Clinton lost to President Donald Trump, the loudest voices in the Democratic Party have been jockeying to see who can tout the most liberal policies. Sen. Chris Coons is over it.
The Delaware Democrat this week launched a one-man campaign imploring his party to exchange “pie-in-the-sky” promises such as abolishing the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, or ICE, for pragmatic policies. Without naming names, the subject of his ire was clear: Democratic colleagues aiming to win favor from the party’s liberal base as they test out 2020 presidential bids.
“Some members of our party, I fear, are instead taking the easy road, and proposing ideas that might sound great in a tweet, like free college, and free health care,” Mr. Coons said in a speech to New Democracy, a centrist Democratic group.
“If the next two years is just a race to offer increasingly unrealistic proposals, to rally just those who are already with us, our strongest supporters, it’ll be difficult for us to make a credible case we should be allowed to govern again,” he warned.“The Democratic tent better be really big and there better not be litmus tests or we’ll never defeat Trump and regain congressional majorities,” said Matt Bennett, a co-founder and senior vice president at Third Way, a centrist Democratic think tank.
Mr. Coons’s sharply worded critique of the party’s left wing was unusual because while many congressional Democrats privately agree with him, few are willing to say so publicly.
I’m still waiting... -
That was the poont of the WSJ article. If a sitting Dem Senator is taking shots—albeit airsoft shots—within the tent about this, it's a problem. "The majority of the voters are dimwits." How hard are those dimwits digging to find the platform?2001400ex said:
You don't want to hear it. It's very easy to find. There's 450 plus Democrats running for Congress this fall. It's not hard to find the platform. But all you want to hear is the few fucktarded fringe candidates and paint that across everyone.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure, so what is the reasonable "centrist" Democratic platform alternative? I'm still waiting to hear it.2001400ex said:
Anyone who says they want to abolish ICE is fucktarded. The majority of the voters are dimwits and all they hear when that's repeated is "open borders". Even tho no one is saying open borders.GrundleStiltzkin said:Rift Emerges Among Democrats Over Leftward Shift
Since Hillary Clinton lost to President Donald Trump, the loudest voices in the Democratic Party have been jockeying to see who can tout the most liberal policies. Sen. Chris Coons is over it.
The Delaware Democrat this week launched a one-man campaign imploring his party to exchange “pie-in-the-sky” promises such as abolishing the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, or ICE, for pragmatic policies. Without naming names, the subject of his ire was clear: Democratic colleagues aiming to win favor from the party’s liberal base as they test out 2020 presidential bids.
“Some members of our party, I fear, are instead taking the easy road, and proposing ideas that might sound great in a tweet, like free college, and free health care,” Mr. Coons said in a speech to New Democracy, a centrist Democratic group.
“If the next two years is just a race to offer increasingly unrealistic proposals, to rally just those who are already with us, our strongest supporters, it’ll be difficult for us to make a credible case we should be allowed to govern again,” he warned.“The Democratic tent better be really big and there better not be litmus tests or we’ll never defeat Trump and regain congressional majorities,” said Matt Bennett, a co-founder and senior vice president at Third Way, a centrist Democratic think tank.
Mr. Coons’s sharply worded critique of the party’s left wing was unusual because while many congressional Democrats privately agree with him, few are willing to say so publicly. -
Except that part of the party leadership just got knocked off by that "fringe" of populism. Who would you say is the "leader" of the Democratic party right now and what is the "heart" of the Dems platform?2001400ex said:
You don't want to hear it. It's very easy to find. There's 450 plus Democrats running for Congress this fall. It's not hard to find the platform. But all you want to hear is the few fucktarded fringe candidates and paint that across everyone.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure, so what is the reasonable "centrist" Democratic platform alternative? I'm still waiting to hear it.2001400ex said:
Anyone who says they want to abolish ICE is fucktarded. The majority of the voters are dimwits and all they hear when that's repeated is "open borders". Even tho no one is saying open borders.GrundleStiltzkin said:Rift Emerges Among Democrats Over Leftward Shift
Since Hillary Clinton lost to President Donald Trump, the loudest voices in the Democratic Party have been jockeying to see who can tout the most liberal policies. Sen. Chris Coons is over it.
The Delaware Democrat this week launched a one-man campaign imploring his party to exchange “pie-in-the-sky” promises such as abolishing the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, or ICE, for pragmatic policies. Without naming names, the subject of his ire was clear: Democratic colleagues aiming to win favor from the party’s liberal base as they test out 2020 presidential bids.
“Some members of our party, I fear, are instead taking the easy road, and proposing ideas that might sound great in a tweet, like free college, and free health care,” Mr. Coons said in a speech to New Democracy, a centrist Democratic group.
“If the next two years is just a race to offer increasingly unrealistic proposals, to rally just those who are already with us, our strongest supporters, it’ll be difficult for us to make a credible case we should be allowed to govern again,” he warned.“The Democratic tent better be really big and there better not be litmus tests or we’ll never defeat Trump and regain congressional majorities,” said Matt Bennett, a co-founder and senior vice president at Third Way, a centrist Democratic think tank.
Mr. Coons’s sharply worded critique of the party’s left wing was unusual because while many congressional Democrats privately agree with him, few are willing to say so publicly.
I'd say they have a serious problem and a split of interests as I laid out.
I'm honestly interested in how this all plays out. I think we are seeing something as big as when the Dixiecrats migrated but I have no idea what the outcome will be. -
LIPO.CirrhosisDawg said:
What’s a centrist? I’m hearing if 1% ers and establishment types don’t stop mocking white trash troomptards you all are going to punish us again and vote for trump.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure, so what is the reasonable "centrist" Democratic platform alternative? I'm still waiting to hear it.2001400ex said:
Anyone who says they want to abolish ICE is fucktarded. The majority of the voters are dimwits and all they hear when that's repeated is "open borders". Even tho no one is saying open borders.GrundleStiltzkin said:Rift Emerges Among Democrats Over Leftward Shift
Since Hillary Clinton lost to President Donald Trump, the loudest voices in the Democratic Party have been jockeying to see who can tout the most liberal policies. Sen. Chris Coons is over it.
The Delaware Democrat this week launched a one-man campaign imploring his party to exchange “pie-in-the-sky” promises such as abolishing the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, or ICE, for pragmatic policies. Without naming names, the subject of his ire was clear: Democratic colleagues aiming to win favor from the party’s liberal base as they test out 2020 presidential bids.
“Some members of our party, I fear, are instead taking the easy road, and proposing ideas that might sound great in a tweet, like free college, and free health care,” Mr. Coons said in a speech to New Democracy, a centrist Democratic group.
“If the next two years is just a race to offer increasingly unrealistic proposals, to rally just those who are already with us, our strongest supporters, it’ll be difficult for us to make a credible case we should be allowed to govern again,” he warned.“The Democratic tent better be really big and there better not be litmus tests or we’ll never defeat Trump and regain congressional majorities,” said Matt Bennett, a co-founder and senior vice president at Third Way, a centrist Democratic think tank.
Mr. Coons’s sharply worded critique of the party’s left wing was unusual because while many congressional Democrats privately agree with him, few are willing to say so publicly.
I’m still waiting...
And again, a big chunk of those troomptards should be voting democrat. -
Continued democrat lunacy and idiocy should be encouraged in order to hasten the end of that party. They will forever be stained by the Jim Crow laws they created and the KKK, which they founded. Their modern day attempts to circumvent the democratic process on social issues by ramming progressive pet projects through the courts is over. They've revealed their authoritarian tendencies in other ways, in their support of 'hate speech laws,' their attempts to make illegal laws (NJ) that allow for the seizure of firearms in contradiction to the 2nd amendment, their opposition to term limits, their race baiting on college campuses with things like 'white privilege workshops,' their allegiance with socialists and Islamic fascists like Hamas and Hezbollah. The fact that they don't give a shit about Americans and want to open the borders for political gain. It would be better for the country if they pack up their shit and just LEAVE. They're finished. The few sane democrats that are left will need to start another party imo. There is no case the current democrats can make as to why they should ever be trusted to govern again.
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I never wanted the Dixiecrats in my GOP. I still want them to LEAVE.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Except that part of the party leadership just got knocked off by that "fringe" of populism. Who would you say is the "leader" of the Democratic party right now and what is the "heart" of the Dems platform?2001400ex said:
You don't want to hear it. It's very easy to find. There's 450 plus Democrats running for Congress this fall. It's not hard to find the platform. But all you want to hear is the few fucktarded fringe candidates and paint that across everyone.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure, so what is the reasonable "centrist" Democratic platform alternative? I'm still waiting to hear it.2001400ex said:
Anyone who says they want to abolish ICE is fucktarded. The majority of the voters are dimwits and all they hear when that's repeated is "open borders". Even tho no one is saying open borders.GrundleStiltzkin said:Rift Emerges Among Democrats Over Leftward Shift
Since Hillary Clinton lost to President Donald Trump, the loudest voices in the Democratic Party have been jockeying to see who can tout the most liberal policies. Sen. Chris Coons is over it.
The Delaware Democrat this week launched a one-man campaign imploring his party to exchange “pie-in-the-sky” promises such as abolishing the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, or ICE, for pragmatic policies. Without naming names, the subject of his ire was clear: Democratic colleagues aiming to win favor from the party’s liberal base as they test out 2020 presidential bids.
“Some members of our party, I fear, are instead taking the easy road, and proposing ideas that might sound great in a tweet, like free college, and free health care,” Mr. Coons said in a speech to New Democracy, a centrist Democratic group.
“If the next two years is just a race to offer increasingly unrealistic proposals, to rally just those who are already with us, our strongest supporters, it’ll be difficult for us to make a credible case we should be allowed to govern again,” he warned.“The Democratic tent better be really big and there better not be litmus tests or we’ll never defeat Trump and regain congressional majorities,” said Matt Bennett, a co-founder and senior vice president at Third Way, a centrist Democratic think tank.
Mr. Coons’s sharply worded critique of the party’s left wing was unusual because while many congressional Democrats privately agree with him, few are willing to say so publicly.
I'd say they have a serious problem and a split of interests as I laid out.
I'm honestly interested in how this all plays out. I think we are seeing something as big as when the Dixiecrats migrated but I have no idea what the outcome will be. -
They aren't digging to find it. Democrats have an identity problem for sure. And Trump is winning with his "guy at the end of the bar" platform.GrundleStiltzkin said:
That was the poont of the WSJ article. If a sitting Dem Senator is taking shots—albeit airsoft shots—within the tent about this, it's a problem. "The majority of the voters are dimwits." How hard are those dimwits digging to find the platform?2001400ex said:
You don't want to hear it. It's very easy to find. There's 450 plus Democrats running for Congress this fall. It's not hard to find the platform. But all you want to hear is the few fucktarded fringe candidates and paint that across everyone.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure, so what is the reasonable "centrist" Democratic platform alternative? I'm still waiting to hear it.2001400ex said:
Anyone who says they want to abolish ICE is fucktarded. The majority of the voters are dimwits and all they hear when that's repeated is "open borders". Even tho no one is saying open borders.GrundleStiltzkin said:Rift Emerges Among Democrats Over Leftward Shift
Since Hillary Clinton lost to President Donald Trump, the loudest voices in the Democratic Party have been jockeying to see who can tout the most liberal policies. Sen. Chris Coons is over it.
The Delaware Democrat this week launched a one-man campaign imploring his party to exchange “pie-in-the-sky” promises such as abolishing the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, or ICE, for pragmatic policies. Without naming names, the subject of his ire was clear: Democratic colleagues aiming to win favor from the party’s liberal base as they test out 2020 presidential bids.
“Some members of our party, I fear, are instead taking the easy road, and proposing ideas that might sound great in a tweet, like free college, and free health care,” Mr. Coons said in a speech to New Democracy, a centrist Democratic group.
“If the next two years is just a race to offer increasingly unrealistic proposals, to rally just those who are already with us, our strongest supporters, it’ll be difficult for us to make a credible case we should be allowed to govern again,” he warned.“The Democratic tent better be really big and there better not be litmus tests or we’ll never defeat Trump and regain congressional majorities,” said Matt Bennett, a co-founder and senior vice president at Third Way, a centrist Democratic think tank.
Mr. Coons’s sharply worded critique of the party’s left wing was unusual because while many congressional Democrats privately agree with him, few are willing to say so publicly. -
The GOP is the party of Lincoln!oregonblitzkrieg said:Continued democrat lunacy and idiocy should be encouraged in order to hasten the end of that party. They will forever be stained by the Jim Crow laws they created and the KKK, which they founded. Their modern day attempts to circumvent the democratic process on social issues by ramming progressive pet projects through the courts is over. They've revealed their authoritarian tendencies in other ways, in their support of 'hate speech laws,' their attempts to make illegal laws (NJ) that allow for the seizure of firearms in contradiction to the 2nd amendment, their opposition to term limits, their race baiting on college campuses with things like 'white privilege workshops,' their allegiance with socialists and Islamic fascists like Hamas and Hezbollah. The fact that they don't give a shit about Americans and want to open the borders for political gain. It would be better for the country if they pack up their shit and just LEAVE. They're finished. The few sane democrats that are left will need to start another party imo. There is no case the current democrats can make as to why they should ever be trusted to govern again.
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And Tarrifs. Tarrifs were sacred to the GOP for about the first 80 years or so.Squirt said:
The GOP is the party of Lincoln!oregonblitzkrieg said:Continued democrat lunacy and idiocy should be encouraged in order to hasten the end of that party. They will forever be stained by the Jim Crow laws they created and the KKK, which they founded. Their modern day attempts to circumvent the democratic process on social issues by ramming progressive pet projects through the courts is over. They've revealed their authoritarian tendencies in other ways, in their support of 'hate speech laws,' their attempts to make illegal laws (NJ) that allow for the seizure of firearms in contradiction to the 2nd amendment, their opposition to term limits, their race baiting on college campuses with things like 'white privilege workshops,' their allegiance with socialists and Islamic fascists like Hamas and Hezbollah. The fact that they don't give a shit about Americans and want to open the borders for political gain. It would be better for the country if they pack up their shit and just LEAVE. They're finished. The few sane democrats that are left will need to start another party imo. There is no case the current democrats can make as to why they should ever be trusted to govern again.
