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Mexico elects a retard socialist as President

oregonblitzkrieg
oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
https://newstatesman.com/world/north-america/2018/07/who-lopez-obrador-mexico-s-new-socialist-firebrand-president

Beset by corruption, poverty and endemic violence, Mexican voters sent a message of desperation on Sunday by voting overwhelmingly to make socialist Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador their next president. This is bad for the U.S., but even worse for Mexico.

President Trump did the neighborly thing in congratulating Obrador on his victory and pledged to work with him. But in fact Obrador's win bodes ill for future relations. His talking points for the policies he'll pursue once in office sound much more like Venezuela's late socialist dictator Hugo Chavez than, say, Ronald Reagan or Margaret Thatcher.

For starters, Obrador vows to renationalize the oil industry, halt all cooperation with U.S. immigration laws, give amnesty to the drug cartels, boost farm subsidies and remove "multinational" investment in agriculture, encourage mass migration by Mexicans to the U.S., while using remittances from workers in the U.S. to fuel Mexican growth.

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  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited July 2018
    Looks like more Mexicans will be heading to the border after Mexico fails. Tough shit. You elected to follow in the footsteps of Venezuela and commit suicide. Fuck off. And you socialists in the US (with the exception of APAG, he's not a real socialist, and not a retard either), you can kill yourselves too. Pack up your shit, head for the border and take up residence in Mexico instead of trying to set up a socialist state here and try to rule people who would rather you LEAVE or DIE than ever submit to your leadership and failed system. Much easier.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,305 Founders Club

    FREE PUB!

    Welcome to the thinking man's libtard society.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited July 2018
    And they wonder why we want to restrict immigration south of the border. Could it be because most of those shithole countries are infested with socialists and people who prefer to live under oppression rather than freedom? And that they'll take that fucked up way of thinking here with them and pollute America with it?
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,792 Standard Supporter
    Build that wall! Oh and put guns on it.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited July 2018
    Sledog said:

    Build that wall! Oh and put guns on it.

    Helps Trump, hurts open borders democrats. With a Hugo Chavez style socialist in power south of the border promising not to do shit about cartels or illegal immigration, throw out the script, they're toast.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    And they wonder why we want to restrict immigration south of the border. Could it be because most of those shithole countries are infested with socialists and people who prefer to live under oppression rather than freedom? And that they'll take that fucked up way of thinking here with them and pollute America with it?

    Countries founded by English Protestants tend to end up rich. Those founded by Spanish Catholics tend to end up pour. Same as it ever was. This was all set in motion well befor Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto.
    Might as well not even have the revolution of the proletariat then.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    And they wonder why we want to restrict immigration south of the border. Could it be because most of those shithole countries are infested with socialists and people who prefer to live under oppression rather than freedom? And that they'll take that fucked up way of thinking here with them and pollute America with it?

    Countries founded by English Protestants tend to end up rich. Those founded by Spanish Catholics tend to end up pour. Same as it ever was. This was all set in motion well befor Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto.
    Might as well not even have the revolution of the proletariat then.
    Your fabulous utopia has arrived. Lucky for you, it's within driving distance, right across the border. So why are you still here?
    Agree, California is utopia. Driving it is manageable if you know what you’re doing.

  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,792 Standard Supporter

    And they wonder why we want to restrict immigration south of the border. Could it be because most of those shithole countries are infested with socialists and people who prefer to live under oppression rather than freedom? And that they'll take that fucked up way of thinking here with them and pollute America with it?

    Countries founded by English Protestants tend to end up rich. Those founded by Spanish Catholics tend to end up pour. Same as it ever was. This was all set in motion well befor Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto.
    Might as well not even have the revolution of the proletariat then.
    Your fabulous utopia has arrived. Lucky for you, it's within driving distance, right across the border. So why are you still here?
    Agree, California is utopia. Driving it is manageable if you know what you’re doing.

    The other 3/4 of Mexico's populating is on the way. Enjoy.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited July 2018

    And they wonder why we want to restrict immigration south of the border. Could it be because most of those shithole countries are infested with socialists and people who prefer to live under oppression rather than freedom? And that they'll take that fucked up way of thinking here with them and pollute America with it?

    Countries founded by English Protestants tend to end up rich. Those founded by Spanish Catholics tend to end up pour. Same as it ever was. This was all set in motion well befor Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto.
    Might as well not even have the revolution of the proletariat then.
    Your fabulous utopia has arrived. Lucky for you, it's within driving distance, right across the border. So why are you still here?
    Agree, California is utopia. Driving it is manageable if you know what you’re doing.

    Go now, into the socialist abyss with you


  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,120 Founders Club
    Mexico has always been wannabe Venezuela. Same as it ever was.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    He’ll take cartel bribes the right way though. Why does Mexico even bother with any elections when the Cartels run the Country and Military anyway.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    salemcoog said:

    He’ll take cartel bribes the right way though. Why does Mexico even bother with any elections when the Cartels run the Country and Military anyway.

    Maybe the cartels in charge want them to have elections, ever think of that?
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,049

    https://newstatesman.com/world/north-america/2018/07/who-lopez-obrador-mexico-s-new-socialist-firebrand-president

    Beset by corruption, poverty and endemic violence, Mexican voters sent a message of desperation on Sunday by voting overwhelmingly to make socialist Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador their next president. This is bad for the U.S., but even worse for Mexico.

    President Trump did the neighborly thing in congratulating Obrador on his victory and pledged to work with him. But in fact Obrador's win bodes ill for future relations. His talking points for the policies he'll pursue once in office sound much more like Venezuela's late socialist dictator Hugo Chavez than, say, Ronald Reagan or Margaret Thatcher.

    For starters, Obrador vows to renationalize the oil industry, halt all cooperation with U.S. immigration laws, give amnesty to the drug cartels, boost farm subsidies and remove "multinational" investment in agriculture, encourage mass migration by Mexicans to the U.S., while using remittances from workers in the U.S. to fuel Mexican growth.

    What is chintresting, and I kid you not, is that many of your fellow Trump supporters who we know and are connected to my wife on social media have expressed support for, or at the very least interest in, this guy as a new-era populist.

    I think you'll find that your nuvo American conservatism isn't as far removed politically from the socialists. You don't want less government. You just want to get more of your guysm in there to get their reads down.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,120 Founders Club

    https://newstatesman.com/world/north-america/2018/07/who-lopez-obrador-mexico-s-new-socialist-firebrand-president

    Beset by corruption, poverty and endemic violence, Mexican voters sent a message of desperation on Sunday by voting overwhelmingly to make socialist Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador their next president. This is bad for the U.S., but even worse for Mexico.

    President Trump did the neighborly thing in congratulating Obrador on his victory and pledged to work with him. But in fact Obrador's win bodes ill for future relations. His talking points for the policies he'll pursue once in office sound much more like Venezuela's late socialist dictator Hugo Chavez than, say, Ronald Reagan or Margaret Thatcher.

    For starters, Obrador vows to renationalize the oil industry, halt all cooperation with U.S. immigration laws, give amnesty to the drug cartels, boost farm subsidies and remove "multinational" investment in agriculture, encourage mass migration by Mexicans to the U.S., while using remittances from workers in the U.S. to fuel Mexican growth.

    What is chintresting, and I kid you not, is that many of your fellow Trump supporters who we know and are connected to my wife on social media have expressed support for, or at the very least interest in, this guy as a new-era populist.

    I think you'll find that your nuvo American conservatism isn't as far removed politically from the socialists. You don't want less government. You just want to get more of your guysm in there to get their reads down.
    It's all populism whether on the right or the left. Path to Serfdom playbook.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    edited July 2018

    https://newstatesman.com/world/north-america/2018/07/who-lopez-obrador-mexico-s-new-socialist-firebrand-president

    Beset by corruption, poverty and endemic violence, Mexican voters sent a message of desperation on Sunday by voting overwhelmingly to make socialist Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador their next president. This is bad for the U.S., but even worse for Mexico.

    President Trump did the neighborly thing in congratulating Obrador on his victory and pledged to work with him. But in fact Obrador's win bodes ill for future relations. His talking points for the policies he'll pursue once in office sound much more like Venezuela's late socialist dictator Hugo Chavez than, say, Ronald Reagan or Margaret Thatcher.

    For starters, Obrador vows to renationalize the oil industry, halt all cooperation with U.S. immigration laws, give amnesty to the drug cartels, boost farm subsidies and remove "multinational" investment in agriculture, encourage mass migration by Mexicans to the U.S., while using remittances from workers in the U.S. to fuel Mexican growth.

    What is chintresting, and I kid you not, is that many of your fellow Trump supporters who we know and are connected to my wife on social media have expressed support for, or at the very least interest in, this guy as a new-era populist.

    I think you'll find that your nuvo American conservatism isn't as far removed politically from the socialists. You don't want less government. You just want to get more of your guysm in there to get their reads down.
    Exactly why a lot of Bernie bros voted for Trump over Hillary.

    Trump has more in common with Bernie than he does, say, Ted Cruz. The only real similarity between Trump and Cruz is their willingness to play/pander to evangelicals (Trump) and be an evangelical (Cruz).
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,792 Standard Supporter

    https://newstatesman.com/world/north-america/2018/07/who-lopez-obrador-mexico-s-new-socialist-firebrand-president

    Beset by corruption, poverty and endemic violence, Mexican voters sent a message of desperation on Sunday by voting overwhelmingly to make socialist Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador their next president. This is bad for the U.S., but even worse for Mexico.

    President Trump did the neighborly thing in congratulating Obrador on his victory and pledged to work with him. But in fact Obrador's win bodes ill for future relations. His talking points for the policies he'll pursue once in office sound much more like Venezuela's late socialist dictator Hugo Chavez than, say, Ronald Reagan or Margaret Thatcher.

    For starters, Obrador vows to renationalize the oil industry, halt all cooperation with U.S. immigration laws, give amnesty to the drug cartels, boost farm subsidies and remove "multinational" investment in agriculture, encourage mass migration by Mexicans to the U.S., while using remittances from workers in the U.S. to fuel Mexican growth.

    What is chintresting, and I kid you not, is that many of your fellow Trump supporters who we know and are connected to my wife on social media have expressed support for, or at the very least interest in, this guy as a new-era populist.

    I think you'll find that your nuvo American conservatism isn't as far removed politically from the socialists. You don't want less government. You just want to get more of your guysm in there to get their reads down.
    Less government. Fuck socialists.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    https://newstatesman.com/world/north-america/2018/07/who-lopez-obrador-mexico-s-new-socialist-firebrand-president

    Beset by corruption, poverty and endemic violence, Mexican voters sent a message of desperation on Sunday by voting overwhelmingly to make socialist Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador their next president. This is bad for the U.S., but even worse for Mexico.

    President Trump did the neighborly thing in congratulating Obrador on his victory and pledged to work with him. But in fact Obrador's win bodes ill for future relations. His talking points for the policies he'll pursue once in office sound much more like Venezuela's late socialist dictator Hugo Chavez than, say, Ronald Reagan or Margaret Thatcher.

    For starters, Obrador vows to renationalize the oil industry, halt all cooperation with U.S. immigration laws, give amnesty to the drug cartels, boost farm subsidies and remove "multinational" investment in agriculture, encourage mass migration by Mexicans to the U.S., while using remittances from workers in the U.S. to fuel Mexican growth.

    What is chintresting, and I kid you not, is that many of your fellow Trump supporters who we know and are connected to my wife on social media have expressed support for, or at the very least interest in, this guy as a new-era populist.

    I think you'll find that your nuvo American conservatism isn't as far removed politically from the socialists. You don't want less government. You just want to get more of your guysm in there to get their reads down.
    I don't understand how they can actually support this guy. They should know better from the examples from history, especially the recent history of Venezuela. This isn't about being conservative or being liberal. It's about being on the clock, recognizing the writing on the wall, and getting important shit done to preserve and defend the republic from itself. The republican party is a tool to be used for a time and season to get this done. Most of them will become more corrupted the longer they're in power, like happens with every party. It's why we need to amend the constitution to include term limits.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    Pretty sure Mexico would just support anyone new

  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,049
    dnc said:

    https://newstatesman.com/world/north-america/2018/07/who-lopez-obrador-mexico-s-new-socialist-firebrand-president

    Beset by corruption, poverty and endemic violence, Mexican voters sent a message of desperation on Sunday by voting overwhelmingly to make socialist Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador their next president. This is bad for the U.S., but even worse for Mexico.

    President Trump did the neighborly thing in congratulating Obrador on his victory and pledged to work with him. But in fact Obrador's win bodes ill for future relations. His talking points for the policies he'll pursue once in office sound much more like Venezuela's late socialist dictator Hugo Chavez than, say, Ronald Reagan or Margaret Thatcher.

    For starters, Obrador vows to renationalize the oil industry, halt all cooperation with U.S. immigration laws, give amnesty to the drug cartels, boost farm subsidies and remove "multinational" investment in agriculture, encourage mass migration by Mexicans to the U.S., while using remittances from workers in the U.S. to fuel Mexican growth.

    What is chintresting, and I kid you not, is that many of your fellow Trump supporters who we know and are connected to my wife on social media have expressed support for, or at the very least interest in, this guy as a new-era populist.

    I think you'll find that your nuvo American conservatism isn't as far removed politically from the socialists. You don't want less government. You just want to get more of your guysm in there to get their reads down.
    Exactly why a lot of Bernie bros voted for Trump over Hillary.

    Trump has more in common with Bernie than he does, say, Ted Cruz. The only real similarity between Trump and Cruz is their willingness to play/pander to evangelicals (Trump) and be an evangelical (Cruz).
    Of course I can't know this for certain, but I strongly suspect (1) Trump is pandering (I don't think he's a religious guy at his core) and (2) Cruz is not pandering (I think is fundamentally a religious guy).

    If one of them is pulling the wool, it's Trump, not Cruz.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    edited July 2018
    dnc said:

    salemcoog said:

    He’ll take cartel bribes the right way though. Why does Mexico even bother with any elections when the Cartels run the Country and Military anyway.

    Maybe the cartels in charge want them to have elections, ever think of that?
    Big if true. Many reports of not enough ballots generated for the amount of voters across the country. At least in Q Roo. Probably standard ops down there and explains the 3 day prohibition for locals around Election Day.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,941 Founders Club
    edited July 2018
    How many illegals from the USA voted for him?