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Tariffs will bring jobs!!!

2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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Well except for Harley.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/harley-davidson-says-not-raise-112306238.html
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  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    HondoFS...his own logic says he is a moron.

    Long-term, by your logic there are going to be a bunch more American jobs since Trumps (temporary) tariffs. After all, Americans buy a boatload more motorcycles than produced in the US currently.

    It’s amazing how a big trade deficit works...
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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    HoustonHusky said:

    HondoFS...his own logic says he is a moron.

    Long-term, by your logic there are going to be a bunch more American jobs since Trumps (temporary) tariffs. After all, Americans buy a boatload more motorcycles than produced in the US currently.

    It’s amazing how a big trade deficit works...

    Houston didn't read the article and just went to sucking Trump's dick.
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  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    edited June 2018
    Or Harley has had deceasing sales over the last decade and realized the only way to survive is to use cheap labor. Tariffs are just a scapegoat Harley is using to mask the real problem...Nobody buys their motorcycles anymore. This move will save them costs, but they won't survive if they don't innovate. Young riders do not buy their products, while Harley's buyer base continues to die off.
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  • insinceredawginsinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    2001400ex said:

    HoustonHusky said:

    HondoFS...his own logic says he is a moron.

    Long-term, by your logic there are going to be a bunch more American jobs since Trumps (temporary) tariffs. After all, Americans buy a boatload more motorcycles than produced in the US currently.

    It’s amazing how a big trade deficit works...

    Houston didn't read the article and just went to sucking Trump's dick.
    Has to buy time until he gets his talking points from Fox News
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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    greenblood said:

    Or Harley has had deceasing sales over the last decade and realized the only way to survive is to use cheap labor. Tariffs are just a scapegoat Harley is using to mask the real problem...Nobody buys their motorcycles anymore. This move will save them costs, but they won't survive if they don't innovate. Young riders do not buy their products, while Harley's buyer base continues to die off.

    Funny how you blame cheap labor on this issue while moving production to Europe. Yet think that tax cuts in America will overcome cheap labor in Asia.

    Dumbass.
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  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    2001400ex said:

    greenblood said:

    Or Harley has had deceasing sales over the last decade and realized the only way to survive is to use cheap labor. Tariffs are just a scapegoat Harley is using to mask the real problem...Nobody buys their motorcycles anymore. This move will save them costs, but they won't survive if they don't innovate. Young riders do not buy their products, while Harley's buyer base continues to die off.

    Funny how you blame cheap labor on this issue while moving production to Europe. Yet think that tax cuts in America will overcome cheap labor in Asia.

    Dumbass.
    When did I say tax cuts overcome cheap labor? You seem confused...
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  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 37,186 Standard Supporter
    Harley Davidson 1920's tech at 2050 prices!
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  • insinceredawginsinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    Remember when Republicans were for free markets and small government?

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  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,644
    insinceredawg said:

    Remember when Republicans were for free markets and small government?

    Same time as when the Democrats were all about the working class.
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  • ApostleofGriefApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    insinceredawg said:

    Remember when Republicans were for free markets and small government?

    One thing which people should learn from this president who represents the likely end of the United States as we know/knew it: statements ended with exclamation points are bullshit by default. Just look to the end of the sentence and see if there is an exclamation point. If there is one, don't waste time reading it.
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  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    edited June 2018
    insinceredawg said:

    Remember when Republicans were for free markets and small government?

    He's correct when he says it's the beginning of the end. Harley customers bought Harley because of the American aura. Without it, they are as good as dead. Harley's are an inefficient and inferior product today. Harley just gutted the only buying incentive they had.

    There isn't a reason to tax them. It's hard to get tax revenue from a net loss. If he slaps a tariff, it won't mean much, because nobody is going to buy their products here.
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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Attacking every corporation that disagrees with the president is definitely the model for free market economics.
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  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 37,186 Standard Supporter
    greenblood said:

    insinceredawg said:

    Remember when Republicans were for free markets and small government?

    He's correct when he says it's the beginning of the end. Harley customers bought Harley because of the American aura. Without it, they are as good as dead. Harley's are an inefficient and inferior product today. Harley just gutted the only buying incentive they had.

    There isn't a reason to tax them. It's hard to get tax revenue from a net loss. If he slaps a tariff, it won't mean much, because nobody is going to buy their products here.
    Very true. The Japanese make more reliable V-Twins and Harley lives in it's past although quality has improved. Harley is all about image and American iron.
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  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    edited June 2018
    2001400ex said:

    Attacking every corporation that disagrees with the president is definitely the model for free market economics.

    Those vicious twitter attacks!!!
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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    greenblood said:

    2001400ex said:

    Attacking every corporation that disagrees with the president is definitely the model for free market economics.

    Those vicious twitter attacks!!!
    Or tariffs. And taxes. Whatever.
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  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,644
    greenblood said:

    2001400ex said:

    Attacking every corporation that disagrees with the president is definitely the model for free market economics.

    Those vicious twitter attacks!!!
    Words are violence is the core tenet of the rabid left
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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Pitchfork51 said:

    greenblood said:

    2001400ex said:

    Attacking every corporation that disagrees with the president is definitely the model for free market economics.

    Those vicious twitter attacks!!!
    Words are violence is the core tenet of the rabid left
    Or you blatantly admit and support that Trump is a liar.
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