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One of the better pieces from this week on immigration
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Is it a huge major thing vs everything else? No.creepycoug said:
I'd say the only real problem on which it is worth basing an election is that of safety ... are extremists using our border countries to gain entry, etc.? That is a concern, but then again, we're growing them now and they're already here. But still, less is certainly moar in that context. Sure, deal with MS13 or whatever the fuck it's called. No sane person would dispute that as a legitimate national interest issue.Pitchfork51 said:It's the completely insane fact that democrats refuse to even acknowledge that unchecked illegal immigration is a problem that needs to be worked on that drives people nuts.
Sure, disagreement over how to solve it is one thing.
But pretending there is no problem at all, fighting against enforcing the current laws, and calling everyone else racist is the most retarded possible angle ever.
And it's going to lose them another election.
The jobs and culture and all that shit? That is what is re-fucking-tarded. Getting hysterical every time an "illegal" rapes or murders or steals? Dumb. As if we don't have those issues in ready abundance in a capitalist and pluralistic society, and as if immigration is contributing to it in some material way.
One exception to the foregoing, of course, is all those secret federal agencies out there handing out free cash and healthcare and other cool bennies and shit to illegals lined up a mile down the road. That bothers me a lot. Our own veterans aren't taken care of so well damnit!
Jesus. I wonder if in the history of the world there has ever been an empire so economically and geo-politically successful that was at the same time as full of stupid people as is the United States. Social media has been great for that. I've been able to confirm prior suspicions of how stupid many of the people I've known most of my life really are.
Sad. Just really sad.
Does it have an impact? Yes.
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Creep, obviously like many us here, you and your spawn are winners from both liberal immigration (legal and otherwise) and the globalized economy. But you are not immune from it's affects; it cost you a lot of money, unless, you're some kind of brilliant, pretend tax attorney.creepycoug said:
I'd say the only real problem on which it is worth basing an election is that of safety ... are extremists using our border countries to gain entry, etc.? That is a concern, but then again, we're growing them now and they're already here. But still, less is certainly moar in that context. Sure, deal with MS13 or whatever the fuck it's called. No sane person would dispute that as a legitimate national interest issue.Pitchfork51 said:It's the completely insane fact that democrats refuse to even acknowledge that unchecked illegal immigration is a problem that needs to be worked on that drives people nuts.
Sure, disagreement over how to solve it is one thing.
But pretending there is no problem at all, fighting against enforcing the current laws, and calling everyone else racist is the most retarded possible angle ever.
And it's going to lose them another election.
The jobs and culture and all that shit? That is what is re-fucking-tarded. Getting hysterical every time an "illegal" rapes or murders or steals? Dumb. As if we don't have those issues in ready abundance in a capitalist and pluralistic society, and as if immigration is contributing to it in some material way.
One exception to the foregoing, of course, is all those secret federal agencies out there handing out free cash and healthcare and other cool bennies and shit to illegals AND NATIVES WHO HAVE DROPPED OUT OF THE WORKFORCElined up a mile down the road. That bothers me a lot. Our own veterans aren't taken care of so well damnit!
Jesus. I wonder if in the history of the world there has ever been an empire so economically and geo-politically successful that was at the same time as full of stupid people as is the United States. Social media has been great for that. I've been able to confirm prior suspicions of how stupid many of the people I've known most of my life really are.
Sad. Just really sad.
We have record low labor force participation rates in this country for thems with low skillz and low edumacation.
There are many causes for this besides high levels of law care professionals coming to America - e.g., automation, manufacturing going overseas, welfare state encouraging idle poverty, etc - BUT there is plenty of evidence which suggests that high levels of low skilled immigration has driven down wages in construction, food processing (meat packing is good example), hospitality, etc. Yes, we get the economic benefit of lower prices in these sectors of the economy, but it's not like it was back in the day's of Bill the Butcher when the Irish Hordes were taking the Native's jerbs. Back then a man had to work or starve. Now when he drops out of the labor force, you as a tax payer pick up the tab. Just saying... -
First of all, Engrish preeze in any thread about immigration and US "culture". You're welcome.YellowSnow said:
Creep, obviously like many us here, you and your spawn are winners from both liberal immigration (legal and otherwise) and the globalized economy. But you are not immune fromcreepycoug said:
I'd say the only real problem on which it is worth basing an election is that of safety ... are extremists using our border countries to gain entry, etc.? That is a concern, but then again, we're growing them now and they're already here. But still, less is certainly moar in that context. Sure, deal with MS13 or whatever the fuck it's called. No sane person would dispute that as a legitimate national interest issue.Pitchfork51 said:It's the completely insane fact that democrats refuse to even acknowledge that unchecked illegal immigration is a problem that needs to be worked on that drives people nuts.
Sure, disagreement over how to solve it is one thing.
But pretending there is no problem at all, fighting against enforcing the current laws, and calling everyone else racist is the most retarded possible angle ever.
And it's going to lose them another election.
The jobs and culture and all that shit? That is what is re-fucking-tarded. Getting hysterical every time an "illegal" rapes or murders or steals? Dumb. As if we don't have those issues in ready abundance in a capitalist and pluralistic society, and as if immigration is contributing to it in some material way.
One exception to the foregoing, of course, is all those secret federal agencies out there handing out free cash and healthcare and other cool bennies and shit to illegals AND NATIVES WHO HAVE DROPPED OUT OF THE WORKFORCElined up a mile down the road. That bothers me a lot. Our own veterans aren't taken care of so well damnit!
Jesus. I wonder if in the history of the world there has ever been an empire so economically and geo-politically successful that was at the same time as full of stupid people as is the United States. Social media has been great for that. I've been able to confirm prior suspicions of how stupid many of the people I've known most of my life really are.
Sad. Just really sad.it'sitsaeffects; it cost you a lot of money, unless, you're some kind of brilliant, pretend tax attorney.
We have record low labor force participation rates in this country for thems with low skillz and low edumacation.
There are many causes for this besides high levels of law care professionals coming to America - e.g., automation, manufacturing going overseas, welfare state encouraging idle poverty, etc - BUT there is plenty of evidence which suggests that high levels of low skilled immigration has driven down wages in construction, food processing (meat packing is good example), hospitality, etc. Yes, we get the economic benefit of lower prices in these sectors of the economy, but it's not like it was back in the day's of Bill the Butcher when the Irish Hordes were taking the Native's jerbs. Back then a man had to work or starve. Now when he drops out of the labor force, you as a tax payer pick up the tab. Just saying...
Second, planning for losers. That's how this country was built.
NOT!
Sad it's come to this. Sad that the losers in a competitive free market are driving policy. Really sad, actually. I actually remember when the winners wrote the rules of the gayme.
Populism. You will all rue the day. -
Thanks.Pitchfork51 said:
Is it a huge major thing vs everything else? No.creepycoug said:
I'd say the only real problem on which it is worth basing an election is that of safety ... are extremists using our border countries to gain entry, etc.? That is a concern, but then again, we're growing them now and they're already here. But still, less is certainly moar in that context. Sure, deal with MS13 or whatever the fuck it's called. No sane person would dispute that as a legitimate national interest issue.Pitchfork51 said:It's the completely insane fact that democrats refuse to even acknowledge that unchecked illegal immigration is a problem that needs to be worked on that drives people nuts.
Sure, disagreement over how to solve it is one thing.
But pretending there is no problem at all, fighting against enforcing the current laws, and calling everyone else racist is the most retarded possible angle ever.
And it's going to lose them another election.
The jobs and culture and all that shit? That is what is re-fucking-tarded. Getting hysterical every time an "illegal" rapes or murders or steals? Dumb. As if we don't have those issues in ready abundance in a capitalist and pluralistic society, and as if immigration is contributing to it in some material way.
One exception to the foregoing, of course, is all those secret federal agencies out there handing out free cash and healthcare and other cool bennies and shit to illegals lined up a mile down the road. That bothers me a lot. Our own veterans aren't taken care of so well damnit!
Jesus. I wonder if in the history of the world there has ever been an empire so economically and geo-politically successful that was at the same time as full of stupid people as is the United States. Social media has been great for that. I've been able to confirm prior suspicions of how stupid many of the people I've known most of my life really are.
Sad. Just really sad.
Does it have an impact? Yes. -
Jesus - I have a shitty, pretend sales jerb, Senior Ricardo. I don't have tim to do both and then proof read my poasts here at HH.creepycoug said:
First of all, Engrish preeze in any thread about immigration and US "culture". You're welcome.YellowSnow said:
Creep, obviously like many us here, you and your spawn are winners from both liberal immigration (legal and otherwise) and the globalized economy. But you are not immune fromcreepycoug said:
I'd say the only real problem on which it is worth basing an election is that of safety ... are extremists using our border countries to gain entry, etc.? That is a concern, but then again, we're growing them now and they're already here. But still, less is certainly moar in that context. Sure, deal with MS13 or whatever the fuck it's called. No sane person would dispute that as a legitimate national interest issue.Pitchfork51 said:It's the completely insane fact that democrats refuse to even acknowledge that unchecked illegal immigration is a problem that needs to be worked on that drives people nuts.
Sure, disagreement over how to solve it is one thing.
But pretending there is no problem at all, fighting against enforcing the current laws, and calling everyone else racist is the most retarded possible angle ever.
And it's going to lose them another election.
The jobs and culture and all that shit? That is what is re-fucking-tarded. Getting hysterical every time an "illegal" rapes or murders or steals? Dumb. As if we don't have those issues in ready abundance in a capitalist and pluralistic society, and as if immigration is contributing to it in some material way.
One exception to the foregoing, of course, is all those secret federal agencies out there handing out free cash and healthcare and other cool bennies and shit to illegals AND NATIVES WHO HAVE DROPPED OUT OF THE WORKFORCElined up a mile down the road. That bothers me a lot. Our own veterans aren't taken care of so well damnit!
Jesus. I wonder if in the history of the world there has ever been an empire so economically and geo-politically successful that was at the same time as full of stupid people as is the United States. Social media has been great for that. I've been able to confirm prior suspicions of how stupid many of the people I've known most of my life really are.
Sad. Just really sad.it'sitsaeffects; it cost you a lot of money, unless, you're some kind of brilliant, pretend tax attorney.
We have record low labor force participation rates in this country for thems with low skillz and low edumacation.
There are many causes for this besides high levels of law care professionals coming to America - e.g., automation, manufacturing going overseas, welfare state encouraging idle poverty, etc - BUT there is plenty of evidence which suggests that high levels of low skilled immigration has driven down wages in construction, food processing (meat packing is good example), hospitality, etc. Yes, we get the economic benefit of lower prices in these sectors of the economy, but it's not like it was back in the day's of Bill the Butcher when the Irish Hordes were taking the Native's jerbs. Back then a man had to work or starve. Now when he drops out of the labor force, you as a tax payer pick up the tab. Just saying...
Second, planning for losers. That's how this country was built.
NOT!
Sad it's come to this. Sad that the losers in a competitive free market are driving policy. Really sad, actually. I actually remember when the winners wrote the rules of the gayme.
Populism. You will all rue the day.
For the first 150 years give or take, there weren't no such thing as wealth transfer payments. HTH.
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Look. Laff all you want. Lives are being effected, oK???????? Axe Sledog. He has that shit dialed in.YellowSnow said:
Jesus - I have a shitty, pretend sales jerb, Senior Ricardo. I don't have tim to do both and then proof read my poasts here at HH.creepycoug said:
First of all, Engrish preeze in any thread about immigration and US "culture". You're welcome.YellowSnow said:
Creep, obviously like many us here, you and your spawn are winners from both liberal immigration (legal and otherwise) and the globalized economy. But you are not immune fromcreepycoug said:
I'd say the only real problem on which it is worth basing an election is that of safety ... are extremists using our border countries to gain entry, etc.? That is a concern, but then again, we're growing them now and they're already here. But still, less is certainly moar in that context. Sure, deal with MS13 or whatever the fuck it's called. No sane person would dispute that as a legitimate national interest issue.Pitchfork51 said:It's the completely insane fact that democrats refuse to even acknowledge that unchecked illegal immigration is a problem that needs to be worked on that drives people nuts.
Sure, disagreement over how to solve it is one thing.
But pretending there is no problem at all, fighting against enforcing the current laws, and calling everyone else racist is the most retarded possible angle ever.
And it's going to lose them another election.
The jobs and culture and all that shit? That is what is re-fucking-tarded. Getting hysterical every time an "illegal" rapes or murders or steals? Dumb. As if we don't have those issues in ready abundance in a capitalist and pluralistic society, and as if immigration is contributing to it in some material way.
One exception to the foregoing, of course, is all those secret federal agencies out there handing out free cash and healthcare and other cool bennies and shit to illegals AND NATIVES WHO HAVE DROPPED OUT OF THE WORKFORCElined up a mile down the road. That bothers me a lot. Our own veterans aren't taken care of so well damnit!
Jesus. I wonder if in the history of the world there has ever been an empire so economically and geo-politically successful that was at the same time as full of stupid people as is the United States. Social media has been great for that. I've been able to confirm prior suspicions of how stupid many of the people I've known most of my life really are.
Sad. Just really sad.it'sitsaeffects; it cost you a lot of money, unless, you're some kind of brilliant, pretend tax attorney.
We have record low labor force participation rates in this country for thems with low skillz and low edumacation.
There are many causes for this besides high levels of law care professionals coming to America - e.g., automation, manufacturing going overseas, welfare state encouraging idle poverty, etc - BUT there is plenty of evidence which suggests that high levels of low skilled immigration has driven down wages in construction, food processing (meat packing is good example), hospitality, etc. Yes, we get the economic benefit of lower prices in these sectors of the economy, but it's not like it was back in the day's of Bill the Butcher when the Irish Hordes were taking the Native's jerbs. Back then a man had to work or starve. Now when he drops out of the labor force, you as a tax payer pick up the tab. Just saying...
Second, planning for losers. That's how this country was built.
NOT!
Sad it's come to this. Sad that the losers in a competitive free market are driving policy. Really sad, actually. I actually remember when the winners wrote the rules of the gayme.
Populism. You will all rue the day.
For the first 150 years give or take, there weren't no such thing as wealth transfer payments. HTH.
IOW, for the first 150 years, losers lost ... completely ... and winners won.
That's the system I'm going with when I assume power. -
Creep, I respeck your rightful place as a philosopher king, but sometimes I wonder if we should revoke your membership in the higher level history discussion bored. When you say this country wasn't built on "planning" that's just wrong, wrong, wrong. How do you think federal guvmint paid the bills prior to 1913?creepycoug said:
Look. Laff all you want. Lives are being effected, oK???????? Axe Sledog. He has that shit dialed in.YellowSnow said:
Jesus - I have a shitty, pretend sales jerb, Senior Ricardo. I don't have tim to do both and then proof read my poasts here at HH.creepycoug said:
First of all, Engrish preeze in any thread about immigration and US "culture". You're welcome.YellowSnow said:
Creep, obviously like many us here, you and your spawn are winners from both liberal immigration (legal and otherwise) and the globalized economy. But you are not immune fromcreepycoug said:
I'd say the only real problem on which it is worth basing an election is that of safety ... are extremists using our border countries to gain entry, etc.? That is a concern, but then again, we're growing them now and they're already here. But still, less is certainly moar in that context. Sure, deal with MS13 or whatever the fuck it's called. No sane person would dispute that as a legitimate national interest issue.Pitchfork51 said:It's the completely insane fact that democrats refuse to even acknowledge that unchecked illegal immigration is a problem that needs to be worked on that drives people nuts.
Sure, disagreement over how to solve it is one thing.
But pretending there is no problem at all, fighting against enforcing the current laws, and calling everyone else racist is the most retarded possible angle ever.
And it's going to lose them another election.
The jobs and culture and all that shit? That is what is re-fucking-tarded. Getting hysterical every time an "illegal" rapes or murders or steals? Dumb. As if we don't have those issues in ready abundance in a capitalist and pluralistic society, and as if immigration is contributing to it in some material way.
One exception to the foregoing, of course, is all those secret federal agencies out there handing out free cash and healthcare and other cool bennies and shit to illegals AND NATIVES WHO HAVE DROPPED OUT OF THE WORKFORCElined up a mile down the road. That bothers me a lot. Our own veterans aren't taken care of so well damnit!
Jesus. I wonder if in the history of the world there has ever been an empire so economically and geo-politically successful that was at the same time as full of stupid people as is the United States. Social media has been great for that. I've been able to confirm prior suspicions of how stupid many of the people I've known most of my life really are.
Sad. Just really sad.it'sitsaeffects; it cost you a lot of money, unless, you're some kind of brilliant, pretend tax attorney.
We have record low labor force participation rates in this country for thems with low skillz and low edumacation.
There are many causes for this besides high levels of law care professionals coming to America - e.g., automation, manufacturing going overseas, welfare state encouraging idle poverty, etc - BUT there is plenty of evidence which suggests that high levels of low skilled immigration has driven down wages in construction, food processing (meat packing is good example), hospitality, etc. Yes, we get the economic benefit of lower prices in these sectors of the economy, but it's not like it was back in the day's of Bill the Butcher when the Irish Hordes were taking the Native's jerbs. Back then a man had to work or starve. Now when he drops out of the labor force, you as a tax payer pick up the tab. Just saying...
Second, planning for losers. That's how this country was built.
NOT!
Sad it's come to this. Sad that the losers in a competitive free market are driving policy. Really sad, actually. I actually remember when the winners wrote the rules of the gayme.
Populism. You will all rue the day.
For the first 150 years give or take, there weren't no such thing as wealth transfer payments. HTH.
IOW, for the first 150 years, losers lost ... completely ... and winners won.
That's the system I'm going with when I assume power.
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My brother, we could barely get a message from Dubuque to Texarcana in less than a month before 1913. Nobody planned shit, at least not very well, and there was a lot less to plan. And still, doing so didn't make it right. And, still, tariffs are one thing - protecting losers who want to lose is an entirely different animal.YellowSnow said:
Creep, I respeck your rightful place as a philosopher king, but sometimes I wonder if we should revoke your membership in the higher level history discussion bored. When you say this country wasn't built on "planning" that's just wrong, wrong, wrong. How do you think federal guvmint paid the bills prior to 1913?creepycoug said:
Look. Laff all you want. Lives are being effected, oK???????? Axe Sledog. He has that shit dialed in.YellowSnow said:
Jesus - I have a shitty, pretend sales jerb, Senior Ricardo. I don't have tim to do both and then proof read my poasts here at HH.creepycoug said:
First of all, Engrish preeze in any thread about immigration and US "culture". You're welcome.YellowSnow said:
Creep, obviously like many us here, you and your spawn are winners from both liberal immigration (legal and otherwise) and the globalized economy. But you are not immune fromcreepycoug said:
I'd say the only real problem on which it is worth basing an election is that of safety ... are extremists using our border countries to gain entry, etc.? That is a concern, but then again, we're growing them now and they're already here. But still, less is certainly moar in that context. Sure, deal with MS13 or whatever the fuck it's called. No sane person would dispute that as a legitimate national interest issue.Pitchfork51 said:It's the completely insane fact that democrats refuse to even acknowledge that unchecked illegal immigration is a problem that needs to be worked on that drives people nuts.
Sure, disagreement over how to solve it is one thing.
But pretending there is no problem at all, fighting against enforcing the current laws, and calling everyone else racist is the most retarded possible angle ever.
And it's going to lose them another election.
The jobs and culture and all that shit? That is what is re-fucking-tarded. Getting hysterical every time an "illegal" rapes or murders or steals? Dumb. As if we don't have those issues in ready abundance in a capitalist and pluralistic society, and as if immigration is contributing to it in some material way.
One exception to the foregoing, of course, is all those secret federal agencies out there handing out free cash and healthcare and other cool bennies and shit to illegals AND NATIVES WHO HAVE DROPPED OUT OF THE WORKFORCElined up a mile down the road. That bothers me a lot. Our own veterans aren't taken care of so well damnit!
Jesus. I wonder if in the history of the world there has ever been an empire so economically and geo-politically successful that was at the same time as full of stupid people as is the United States. Social media has been great for that. I've been able to confirm prior suspicions of how stupid many of the people I've known most of my life really are.
Sad. Just really sad.it'sitsaeffects; it cost you a lot of money, unless, you're some kind of brilliant, pretend tax attorney.
We have record low labor force participation rates in this country for thems with low skillz and low edumacation.
There are many causes for this besides high levels of law care professionals coming to America - e.g., automation, manufacturing going overseas, welfare state encouraging idle poverty, etc - BUT there is plenty of evidence which suggests that high levels of low skilled immigration has driven down wages in construction, food processing (meat packing is good example), hospitality, etc. Yes, we get the economic benefit of lower prices in these sectors of the economy, but it's not like it was back in the day's of Bill the Butcher when the Irish Hordes were taking the Native's jerbs. Back then a man had to work or starve. Now when he drops out of the labor force, you as a tax payer pick up the tab. Just saying...
Second, planning for losers. That's how this country was built.
NOT!
Sad it's come to this. Sad that the losers in a competitive free market are driving policy. Really sad, actually. I actually remember when the winners wrote the rules of the gayme.
Populism. You will all rue the day.
For the first 150 years give or take, there weren't no such thing as wealth transfer payments. HTH.
IOW, for the first 150 years, losers lost ... completely ... and winners won.
That's the system I'm going with when I assume power.
It effects culture! We lose our edge when we go Euro-soft by protecting our least abled. Whatever some federal bureaucrat did on imports a bazillion years ago doesn't mean diddly. It didn't stop us from importing Chineze to build the RR did it? No.
Aspire to be a Spartan man. Thinking like an Athenean is not manly. It's just not manly. -
Actually only took a spit sec to get the message through by telegraph, but still....creepycoug said:
My brother, we could barely get a message from Dubuque to Texarcana in less than a month before 1913. Nobody planned shit, at least not very well, and there was a lot less to plan. And still, doing so didn't make it right. And, still, tariffs are one thing - protecting losers who want to lose is an entirely different animal.YellowSnow said:
Creep, I respeck your rightful place as a philosopher king, but sometimes I wonder if we should revoke your membership in the higher level history discussion bored. When you say this country wasn't built on "planning" that's just wrong, wrong, wrong. How do you think federal guvmint paid the bills prior to 1913?creepycoug said:
Look. Laff all you want. Lives are being effected, oK???????? Axe Sledog. He has that shit dialed in.YellowSnow said:
Jesus - I have a shitty, pretend sales jerb, Senior Ricardo. I don't have tim to do both and then proof read my poasts here at HH.creepycoug said:
First of all, Engrish preeze in any thread about immigration and US "culture". You're welcome.YellowSnow said:
Creep, obviously like many us here, you and your spawn are winners from both liberal immigration (legal and otherwise) and the globalized economy. But you are not immune fromcreepycoug said:
I'd say the only real problem on which it is worth basing an election is that of safety ... are extremists using our border countries to gain entry, etc.? That is a concern, but then again, we're growing them now and they're already here. But still, less is certainly moar in that context. Sure, deal with MS13 or whatever the fuck it's called. No sane person would dispute that as a legitimate national interest issue.Pitchfork51 said:It's the completely insane fact that democrats refuse to even acknowledge that unchecked illegal immigration is a problem that needs to be worked on that drives people nuts.
Sure, disagreement over how to solve it is one thing.
But pretending there is no problem at all, fighting against enforcing the current laws, and calling everyone else racist is the most retarded possible angle ever.
And it's going to lose them another election.
The jobs and culture and all that shit? That is what is re-fucking-tarded. Getting hysterical every time an "illegal" rapes or murders or steals? Dumb. As if we don't have those issues in ready abundance in a capitalist and pluralistic society, and as if immigration is contributing to it in some material way.
One exception to the foregoing, of course, is all those secret federal agencies out there handing out free cash and healthcare and other cool bennies and shit to illegals AND NATIVES WHO HAVE DROPPED OUT OF THE WORKFORCElined up a mile down the road. That bothers me a lot. Our own veterans aren't taken care of so well damnit!
Jesus. I wonder if in the history of the world there has ever been an empire so economically and geo-politically successful that was at the same time as full of stupid people as is the United States. Social media has been great for that. I've been able to confirm prior suspicions of how stupid many of the people I've known most of my life really are.
Sad. Just really sad.it'sitsaeffects; it cost you a lot of money, unless, you're some kind of brilliant, pretend tax attorney.
We have record low labor force participation rates in this country for thems with low skillz and low edumacation.
There are many causes for this besides high levels of law care professionals coming to America - e.g., automation, manufacturing going overseas, welfare state encouraging idle poverty, etc - BUT there is plenty of evidence which suggests that high levels of low skilled immigration has driven down wages in construction, food processing (meat packing is good example), hospitality, etc. Yes, we get the economic benefit of lower prices in these sectors of the economy, but it's not like it was back in the day's of Bill the Butcher when the Irish Hordes were taking the Native's jerbs. Back then a man had to work or starve. Now when he drops out of the labor force, you as a tax payer pick up the tab. Just saying...
Second, planning for losers. That's how this country was built.
NOT!
Sad it's come to this. Sad that the losers in a competitive free market are driving policy. Really sad, actually. I actually remember when the winners wrote the rules of the gayme.
Populism. You will all rue the day.
For the first 150 years give or take, there weren't no such thing as wealth transfer payments. HTH.
IOW, for the first 150 years, losers lost ... completely ... and winners won.
That's the system I'm going with when I assume power.
It effects culture! We lose our edge when we go Euro-soft by protecting our least abled. Whatever some federal bureaucrat did on imports a bazillion years ago doesn't mean diddly. It didn't stop us from importing Chineze to build the RR did it? No.
Aspire to be a Spartan man. Thinking like an Athenean is not manly. It's just not manly.
There very much was "planning" to try and help the poor white guy earlier in the history of our great republic. The Republic Party was founded on 2 principles: (1) tariffs to help grow domestic industry - i.e., mor factory jerbs - and (2) keeping cheap (i.e., free) labor out of the territories. This was known as the "Free Soil" movement. -
Yes, 1813. But there weren't that many of them, and I'm guessing, just guessing, there wasn't a receiving telegram station in Texarcana!YellowSnow said:
Actually only took a spit sec to get the message through by telegraph, but still....creepycoug said:
My brother, we could barely get a message from Dubuque to Texarcana in less than a month before 1913. Nobody planned shit, at least not very well, and there was a lot less to plan. And still, doing so didn't make it right. And, still, tariffs are one thing - protecting losers who want to lose is an entirely different animal.YellowSnow said:
Creep, I respeck your rightful place as a philosopher king, but sometimes I wonder if we should revoke your membership in the higher level history discussion bored. When you say this country wasn't built on "planning" that's just wrong, wrong, wrong. How do you think federal guvmint paid the bills prior to 1913?creepycoug said:
Look. Laff all you want. Lives are being effected, oK???????? Axe Sledog. He has that shit dialed in.YellowSnow said:
Jesus - I have a shitty, pretend sales jerb, Senior Ricardo. I don't have tim to do both and then proof read my poasts here at HH.creepycoug said:
First of all, Engrish preeze in any thread about immigration and US "culture". You're welcome.YellowSnow said:
Creep, obviously like many us here, you and your spawn are winners from both liberal immigration (legal and otherwise) and the globalized economy. But you are not immune fromcreepycoug said:
I'd say the only real problem on which it is worth basing an election is that of safety ... are extremists using our border countries to gain entry, etc.? That is a concern, but then again, we're growing them now and they're already here. But still, less is certainly moar in that context. Sure, deal with MS13 or whatever the fuck it's called. No sane person would dispute that as a legitimate national interest issue.Pitchfork51 said:It's the completely insane fact that democrats refuse to even acknowledge that unchecked illegal immigration is a problem that needs to be worked on that drives people nuts.
Sure, disagreement over how to solve it is one thing.
But pretending there is no problem at all, fighting against enforcing the current laws, and calling everyone else racist is the most retarded possible angle ever.
And it's going to lose them another election.
The jobs and culture and all that shit? That is what is re-fucking-tarded. Getting hysterical every time an "illegal" rapes or murders or steals? Dumb. As if we don't have those issues in ready abundance in a capitalist and pluralistic society, and as if immigration is contributing to it in some material way.
One exception to the foregoing, of course, is all those secret federal agencies out there handing out free cash and healthcare and other cool bennies and shit to illegals AND NATIVES WHO HAVE DROPPED OUT OF THE WORKFORCElined up a mile down the road. That bothers me a lot. Our own veterans aren't taken care of so well damnit!
Jesus. I wonder if in the history of the world there has ever been an empire so economically and geo-politically successful that was at the same time as full of stupid people as is the United States. Social media has been great for that. I've been able to confirm prior suspicions of how stupid many of the people I've known most of my life really are.
Sad. Just really sad.it'sitsaeffects; it cost you a lot of money, unless, you're some kind of brilliant, pretend tax attorney.
We have record low labor force participation rates in this country for thems with low skillz and low edumacation.
There are many causes for this besides high levels of law care professionals coming to America - e.g., automation, manufacturing going overseas, welfare state encouraging idle poverty, etc - BUT there is plenty of evidence which suggests that high levels of low skilled immigration has driven down wages in construction, food processing (meat packing is good example), hospitality, etc. Yes, we get the economic benefit of lower prices in these sectors of the economy, but it's not like it was back in the day's of Bill the Butcher when the Irish Hordes were taking the Native's jerbs. Back then a man had to work or starve. Now when he drops out of the labor force, you as a tax payer pick up the tab. Just saying...
Second, planning for losers. That's how this country was built.
NOT!
Sad it's come to this. Sad that the losers in a competitive free market are driving policy. Really sad, actually. I actually remember when the winners wrote the rules of the gayme.
Populism. You will all rue the day.
For the first 150 years give or take, there weren't no such thing as wealth transfer payments. HTH.
IOW, for the first 150 years, losers lost ... completely ... and winners won.
That's the system I'm going with when I assume power.
It effects culture! We lose our edge when we go Euro-soft by protecting our least abled. Whatever some federal bureaucrat did on imports a bazillion years ago doesn't mean diddly. It didn't stop us from importing Chineze to build the RR did it? No.
Aspire to be a Spartan man. Thinking like an Athenean is not manly. It's just not manly.
There very much was "planning" to try and help the poor white guy earlier in the history of our great republic. The Republic Party was founded on 2 principles: (1) tariffs to help grow domestic industry - i.e., mor factory jerbs - and (2) keeping cheap (i.e., free) labor out of the territories. This was known as the "Free Soil" movement.
But still ...
Free Soil ... never heard of it. Free anything is unAmerican. Work for it I say.
Bottom line, fuck 'em if they can't get it together. If they won't work or can't, take 'em off the dole and maybe they'll immigrate somewheres else.
I don't really care what becomes of them. At. All. -
The Mexicans are here. 20-40 million. Now the rest of south and central America want to be here too. HTHcreepycoug said:
Who cares about Trump. I've told you I liked him 20 times. That's enuff. Defending another man who isn't your father that zealously is effeminate. Stop it.RaceBannon said:Trump's fear to immigrants
Just don't call them fucking liars
Illegal immigrants have been an issue at least since Bill Clinton was against them. Oh and that amnesty thing in the 80's
And Obama keeping kids in cages
BUT TRUMP
Fuck off
It wasn't an issue under Bill either, so fuck Bill too. Everyone does this shit to pander to people who think we're being "invaded", which is fucking stupid.
Clean it up a big at the border and do better at vetting the really bad folks. No argument there.
Freaking out about the "Mexicans are coming! The Mexicans are coming!" is just not manly. They've been coming for forever and I thank them for their services.
I'd also like to get some of them on the men's US National team. GOAL!!!!!!!!!!! -
Homestead Act of 1862. Look it up. Giving away free land was very American. I rest my case.creepycoug said:
Yes, 1813. But there weren't that many of them, and I'm guessing, just guessing, there wasn't a receiving telegram station in Texarcana!YellowSnow said:
Actually only took a spit sec to get the message through by telegraph, but still....creepycoug said:
My brother, we could barely get a message from Dubuque to Texarcana in less than a month before 1913. Nobody planned shit, at least not very well, and there was a lot less to plan. And still, doing so didn't make it right. And, still, tariffs are one thing - protecting losers who want to lose is an entirely different animal.YellowSnow said:
Creep, I respeck your rightful place as a philosopher king, but sometimes I wonder if we should revoke your membership in the higher level history discussion bored. When you say this country wasn't built on "planning" that's just wrong, wrong, wrong. How do you think federal guvmint paid the bills prior to 1913?creepycoug said:
Look. Laff all you want. Lives are being effected, oK???????? Axe Sledog. He has that shit dialed in.YellowSnow said:
Jesus - I have a shitty, pretend sales jerb, Senior Ricardo. I don't have tim to do both and then proof read my poasts here at HH.creepycoug said:
First of all, Engrish preeze in any thread about immigration and US "culture". You're welcome.YellowSnow said:
Creep, obviously like many us here, you and your spawn are winners from both liberal immigration (legal and otherwise) and the globalized economy. But you are not immune fromcreepycoug said:
I'd say the only real problem on which it is worth basing an election is that of safety ... are extremists using our border countries to gain entry, etc.? That is a concern, but then again, we're growing them now and they're already here. But still, less is certainly moar in that context. Sure, deal with MS13 or whatever the fuck it's called. No sane person would dispute that as a legitimate national interest issue.Pitchfork51 said:It's the completely insane fact that democrats refuse to even acknowledge that unchecked illegal immigration is a problem that needs to be worked on that drives people nuts.
Sure, disagreement over how to solve it is one thing.
But pretending there is no problem at all, fighting against enforcing the current laws, and calling everyone else racist is the most retarded possible angle ever.
And it's going to lose them another election.
The jobs and culture and all that shit? That is what is re-fucking-tarded. Getting hysterical every time an "illegal" rapes or murders or steals? Dumb. As if we don't have those issues in ready abundance in a capitalist and pluralistic society, and as if immigration is contributing to it in some material way.
One exception to the foregoing, of course, is all those secret federal agencies out there handing out free cash and healthcare and other cool bennies and shit to illegals AND NATIVES WHO HAVE DROPPED OUT OF THE WORKFORCElined up a mile down the road. That bothers me a lot. Our own veterans aren't taken care of so well damnit!
Jesus. I wonder if in the history of the world there has ever been an empire so economically and geo-politically successful that was at the same time as full of stupid people as is the United States. Social media has been great for that. I've been able to confirm prior suspicions of how stupid many of the people I've known most of my life really are.
Sad. Just really sad.it'sitsaeffects; it cost you a lot of money, unless, you're some kind of brilliant, pretend tax attorney.
We have record low labor force participation rates in this country for thems with low skillz and low edumacation.
There are many causes for this besides high levels of law care professionals coming to America - e.g., automation, manufacturing going overseas, welfare state encouraging idle poverty, etc - BUT there is plenty of evidence which suggests that high levels of low skilled immigration has driven down wages in construction, food processing (meat packing is good example), hospitality, etc. Yes, we get the economic benefit of lower prices in these sectors of the economy, but it's not like it was back in the day's of Bill the Butcher when the Irish Hordes were taking the Native's jerbs. Back then a man had to work or starve. Now when he drops out of the labor force, you as a tax payer pick up the tab. Just saying...
Second, planning for losers. That's how this country was built.
NOT!
Sad it's come to this. Sad that the losers in a competitive free market are driving policy. Really sad, actually. I actually remember when the winners wrote the rules of the gayme.
Populism. You will all rue the day.
For the first 150 years give or take, there weren't no such thing as wealth transfer payments. HTH.
IOW, for the first 150 years, losers lost ... completely ... and winners won.
That's the system I'm going with when I assume power.
It effects culture! We lose our edge when we go Euro-soft by protecting our least abled. Whatever some federal bureaucrat did on imports a bazillion years ago doesn't mean diddly. It didn't stop us from importing Chineze to build the RR did it? No.
Aspire to be a Spartan man. Thinking like an Athenean is not manly. It's just not manly.
There very much was "planning" to try and help the poor white guy earlier in the history of our great republic. The Republic Party was founded on 2 principles: (1) tariffs to help grow domestic industry - i.e., mor factory jerbs - and (2) keeping cheap (i.e., free) labor out of the territories. This was known as the "Free Soil" movement.
But still ...
Free Soil ... never heard of it. Free anything is unAmerican. Work for it I say.
Bottom line, fuck 'em if they can't get it together. If they won't work or can't, take 'em off the dole and maybe they'll immigrate somewheres else.
I don't really care what becomes of them. At. All. -
I'm gonna turn you into a compassionate conservative if it harelips the governor.creepycoug said:
Yes, 1813. But there weren't that many of them, and I'm guessing, just guessing, there wasn't a receiving telegram station in Texarcana!YellowSnow said:
Actually only took a spit sec to get the message through by telegraph, but still....creepycoug said:
My brother, we could barely get a message from Dubuque to Texarcana in less than a month before 1913. Nobody planned shit, at least not very well, and there was a lot less to plan. And still, doing so didn't make it right. And, still, tariffs are one thing - protecting losers who want to lose is an entirely different animal.YellowSnow said:
Creep, I respeck your rightful place as a philosopher king, but sometimes I wonder if we should revoke your membership in the higher level history discussion bored. When you say this country wasn't built on "planning" that's just wrong, wrong, wrong. How do you think federal guvmint paid the bills prior to 1913?creepycoug said:
Look. Laff all you want. Lives are being effected, oK???????? Axe Sledog. He has that shit dialed in.YellowSnow said:
Jesus - I have a shitty, pretend sales jerb, Senior Ricardo. I don't have tim to do both and then proof read my poasts here at HH.creepycoug said:
First of all, Engrish preeze in any thread about immigration and US "culture". You're welcome.YellowSnow said:
Creep, obviously like many us here, you and your spawn are winners from both liberal immigration (legal and otherwise) and the globalized economy. But you are not immune fromcreepycoug said:
I'd say the only real problem on which it is worth basing an election is that of safety ... are extremists using our border countries to gain entry, etc.? That is a concern, but then again, we're growing them now and they're already here. But still, less is certainly moar in that context. Sure, deal with MS13 or whatever the fuck it's called. No sane person would dispute that as a legitimate national interest issue.Pitchfork51 said:It's the completely insane fact that democrats refuse to even acknowledge that unchecked illegal immigration is a problem that needs to be worked on that drives people nuts.
Sure, disagreement over how to solve it is one thing.
But pretending there is no problem at all, fighting against enforcing the current laws, and calling everyone else racist is the most retarded possible angle ever.
And it's going to lose them another election.
The jobs and culture and all that shit? That is what is re-fucking-tarded. Getting hysterical every time an "illegal" rapes or murders or steals? Dumb. As if we don't have those issues in ready abundance in a capitalist and pluralistic society, and as if immigration is contributing to it in some material way.
One exception to the foregoing, of course, is all those secret federal agencies out there handing out free cash and healthcare and other cool bennies and shit to illegals AND NATIVES WHO HAVE DROPPED OUT OF THE WORKFORCElined up a mile down the road. That bothers me a lot. Our own veterans aren't taken care of so well damnit!
Jesus. I wonder if in the history of the world there has ever been an empire so economically and geo-politically successful that was at the same time as full of stupid people as is the United States. Social media has been great for that. I've been able to confirm prior suspicions of how stupid many of the people I've known most of my life really are.
Sad. Just really sad.it'sitsaeffects; it cost you a lot of money, unless, you're some kind of brilliant, pretend tax attorney.
We have record low labor force participation rates in this country for thems with low skillz and low edumacation.
There are many causes for this besides high levels of law care professionals coming to America - e.g., automation, manufacturing going overseas, welfare state encouraging idle poverty, etc - BUT there is plenty of evidence which suggests that high levels of low skilled immigration has driven down wages in construction, food processing (meat packing is good example), hospitality, etc. Yes, we get the economic benefit of lower prices in these sectors of the economy, but it's not like it was back in the day's of Bill the Butcher when the Irish Hordes were taking the Native's jerbs. Back then a man had to work or starve. Now when he drops out of the labor force, you as a tax payer pick up the tab. Just saying...
Second, planning for losers. That's how this country was built.
NOT!
Sad it's come to this. Sad that the losers in a competitive free market are driving policy. Really sad, actually. I actually remember when the winners wrote the rules of the gayme.
Populism. You will all rue the day.
For the first 150 years give or take, there weren't no such thing as wealth transfer payments. HTH.
IOW, for the first 150 years, losers lost ... completely ... and winners won.
That's the system I'm going with when I assume power.
It effects culture! We lose our edge when we go Euro-soft by protecting our least abled. Whatever some federal bureaucrat did on imports a bazillion years ago doesn't mean diddly. It didn't stop us from importing Chineze to build the RR did it? No.
Aspire to be a Spartan man. Thinking like an Athenean is not manly. It's just not manly.
There very much was "planning" to try and help the poor white guy earlier in the history of our great republic. The Republic Party was founded on 2 principles: (1) tariffs to help grow domestic industry - i.e., mor factory jerbs - and (2) keeping cheap (i.e., free) labor out of the territories. This was known as the "Free Soil" movement.
But still ...
Free Soil ... never heard of it. Free anything is unAmerican. Work for it I say.
Bottom line, fuck 'em if they can't get it together. If they won't work or can't, take 'em off the dole and maybe they'll immigrate somewheres else.
I don't really care what becomes of them. At. All. -
Most Democrats pander to illegals, trannies, fags, and the habitual welfare takers more than honest and hard working working and middle class folks. Keep struggling.2001400ex said:
Yes because ignorant people like you think what you typed is correct.Pitchfork51 said:It's the completely insane fact that democrats refuse to even acknowledge that unchecked illegal immigration is a problem that needs to be worked on that drives people nuts.
Sure, disagreement over how to solve it is one thing.
But pretending there is no problem at all, fighting against enforcing the current laws, and calling everyone else racist is the most retarded possible angle ever.
And it's going to lose them another election. -
I go back to my baseline principle: Everyone whose line goes back three or more generations here who are still "struggling" should not breed and, if over 40, should really just end it in the most painful way possible.YellowSnow said:
I'm gonna turn you into a compassionate conservative if it harelips the governor.creepycoug said:
Yes, 1813. But there weren't that many of them, and I'm guessing, just guessing, there wasn't a receiving telegram station in Texarcana!YellowSnow said:
Actually only took a spit sec to get the message through by telegraph, but still....creepycoug said:
My brother, we could barely get a message from Dubuque to Texarcana in less than a month before 1913. Nobody planned shit, at least not very well, and there was a lot less to plan. And still, doing so didn't make it right. And, still, tariffs are one thing - protecting losers who want to lose is an entirely different animal.YellowSnow said:
Creep, I respeck your rightful place as a philosopher king, but sometimes I wonder if we should revoke your membership in the higher level history discussion bored. When you say this country wasn't built on "planning" that's just wrong, wrong, wrong. How do you think federal guvmint paid the bills prior to 1913?creepycoug said:
Look. Laff all you want. Lives are being effected, oK???????? Axe Sledog. He has that shit dialed in.YellowSnow said:
Jesus - I have a shitty, pretend sales jerb, Senior Ricardo. I don't have tim to do both and then proof read my poasts here at HH.creepycoug said:
First of all, Engrish preeze in any thread about immigration and US "culture". You're welcome.YellowSnow said:
Creep, obviously like many us here, you and your spawn are winners from both liberal immigration (legal and otherwise) and the globalized economy. But you are not immune fromcreepycoug said:
I'd say the only real problem on which it is worth basing an election is that of safety ... are extremists using our border countries to gain entry, etc.? That is a concern, but then again, we're growing them now and they're already here. But still, less is certainly moar in that context. Sure, deal with MS13 or whatever the fuck it's called. No sane person would dispute that as a legitimate national interest issue.Pitchfork51 said:It's the completely insane fact that democrats refuse to even acknowledge that unchecked illegal immigration is a problem that needs to be worked on that drives people nuts.
Sure, disagreement over how to solve it is one thing.
But pretending there is no problem at all, fighting against enforcing the current laws, and calling everyone else racist is the most retarded possible angle ever.
And it's going to lose them another election.
The jobs and culture and all that shit? That is what is re-fucking-tarded. Getting hysterical every time an "illegal" rapes or murders or steals? Dumb. As if we don't have those issues in ready abundance in a capitalist and pluralistic society, and as if immigration is contributing to it in some material way.
One exception to the foregoing, of course, is all those secret federal agencies out there handing out free cash and healthcare and other cool bennies and shit to illegals AND NATIVES WHO HAVE DROPPED OUT OF THE WORKFORCElined up a mile down the road. That bothers me a lot. Our own veterans aren't taken care of so well damnit!
Jesus. I wonder if in the history of the world there has ever been an empire so economically and geo-politically successful that was at the same time as full of stupid people as is the United States. Social media has been great for that. I've been able to confirm prior suspicions of how stupid many of the people I've known most of my life really are.
Sad. Just really sad.it'sitsaeffects; it cost you a lot of money, unless, you're some kind of brilliant, pretend tax attorney.
We have record low labor force participation rates in this country for thems with low skillz and low edumacation.
There are many causes for this besides high levels of law care professionals coming to America - e.g., automation, manufacturing going overseas, welfare state encouraging idle poverty, etc - BUT there is plenty of evidence which suggests that high levels of low skilled immigration has driven down wages in construction, food processing (meat packing is good example), hospitality, etc. Yes, we get the economic benefit of lower prices in these sectors of the economy, but it's not like it was back in the day's of Bill the Butcher when the Irish Hordes were taking the Native's jerbs. Back then a man had to work or starve. Now when he drops out of the labor force, you as a tax payer pick up the tab. Just saying...
Second, planning for losers. That's how this country was built.
NOT!
Sad it's come to this. Sad that the losers in a competitive free market are driving policy. Really sad, actually. I actually remember when the winners wrote the rules of the gayme.
Populism. You will all rue the day.
For the first 150 years give or take, there weren't no such thing as wealth transfer payments. HTH.
IOW, for the first 150 years, losers lost ... completely ... and winners won.
That's the system I'm going with when I assume power.
It effects culture! We lose our edge when we go Euro-soft by protecting our least abled. Whatever some federal bureaucrat did on imports a bazillion years ago doesn't mean diddly. It didn't stop us from importing Chineze to build the RR did it? No.
Aspire to be a Spartan man. Thinking like an Athenean is not manly. It's just not manly.
There very much was "planning" to try and help the poor white guy earlier in the history of our great republic. The Republic Party was founded on 2 principles: (1) tariffs to help grow domestic industry - i.e., mor factory jerbs - and (2) keeping cheap (i.e., free) labor out of the territories. This was known as the "Free Soil" movement.
But still ...
Free Soil ... never heard of it. Free anything is unAmerican. Work for it I say.
Bottom line, fuck 'em if they can't get it together. If they won't work or can't, take 'em off the dole and maybe they'll immigrate somewheres else.
I don't really care what becomes of them. At. All.
If we're going to build a mega state, and we should, we need to start the sorting now. Instead of obsessing about hungry people sneaking in we should be discouraging the further expression of loser gene pools hat are already here. Free compulsory education and easy access to the world's best college educations for the last 100+ years, and you are still pore and unaccomplished? Yeah, your genes suck ass. It's over. Give up.
My grandfather had to settle for a second grade education and came here with absolutley nada, and among his grand and great grand children are Ivy League and Ivy equivalent graduatels, two docs, a pretend and a real lawyer, an actuary, an engineer/CFO, a Goldman I-banker and a tenured maff professor at MIT.
Collectively, we would like to say to the sledog generation (and my in-laws and their stupid relations): fuck you and get to work. Our lawns aren't going to cut themselves.
Ariba ariba!!!
We are a heartless group, we like our own and we are never leaving bitch. Too late. -
I know that's what the news reports and what you believe. And I am not a fan of sanctuary cities and some other things like that.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Most Democrats pander to illegals, trannies, fags, and the habitual welfare takers more than honest and hard working working and middle class folks. Keep struggling.2001400ex said:
Yes because ignorant people like you think what you typed is correct.Pitchfork51 said:It's the completely insane fact that democrats refuse to even acknowledge that unchecked illegal immigration is a problem that needs to be worked on that drives people nuts.
Sure, disagreement over how to solve it is one thing.
But pretending there is no problem at all, fighting against enforcing the current laws, and calling everyone else racist is the most retarded possible angle ever.
And it's going to lose them another election.
That being said, Democrats are on the side of unions and trying (tho failing) at making medical insurance more affordable for the middle class. Rather than Republicans siding with big business and the wealthy.
Not to mention that it's just humane to be accepting to the LGBT crowd. But keep being a homophobe, that's working well for you so far. -
Something from the 20th century preeze? We were still dragging our knuckles in the 1800s. Nothing any politician from that time is at all chintresting to me.YellowSnow said:
Homestead Act of 1862. Look it up. Giving away free land was very American. I rest my case.creepycoug said:
Yes, 1813. But there weren't that many of them, and I'm guessing, just guessing, there wasn't a receiving telegram station in Texarcana!YellowSnow said:
Actually only took a spit sec to get the message through by telegraph, but still....creepycoug said:
My brother, we could barely get a message from Dubuque to Texarcana in less than a month before 1913. Nobody planned shit, at least not very well, and there was a lot less to plan. And still, doing so didn't make it right. And, still, tariffs are one thing - protecting losers who want to lose is an entirely different animal.YellowSnow said:
Creep, I respeck your rightful place as a philosopher king, but sometimes I wonder if we should revoke your membership in the higher level history discussion bored. When you say this country wasn't built on "planning" that's just wrong, wrong, wrong. How do you think federal guvmint paid the bills prior to 1913?creepycoug said:
Look. Laff all you want. Lives are being effected, oK???????? Axe Sledog. He has that shit dialed in.YellowSnow said:
Jesus - I have a shitty, pretend sales jerb, Senior Ricardo. I don't have tim to do both and then proof read my poasts here at HH.creepycoug said:
First of all, Engrish preeze in any thread about immigration and US "culture". You're welcome.YellowSnow said:
Creep, obviously like many us here, you and your spawn are winners from both liberal immigration (legal and otherwise) and the globalized economy. But you are not immune fromcreepycoug said:
I'd say the only real problem on which it is worth basing an election is that of safety ... are extremists using our border countries to gain entry, etc.? That is a concern, but then again, we're growing them now and they're already here. But still, less is certainly moar in that context. Sure, deal with MS13 or whatever the fuck it's called. No sane person would dispute that as a legitimate national interest issue.Pitchfork51 said:It's the completely insane fact that democrats refuse to even acknowledge that unchecked illegal immigration is a problem that needs to be worked on that drives people nuts.
Sure, disagreement over how to solve it is one thing.
But pretending there is no problem at all, fighting against enforcing the current laws, and calling everyone else racist is the most retarded possible angle ever.
And it's going to lose them another election.
The jobs and culture and all that shit? That is what is re-fucking-tarded. Getting hysterical every time an "illegal" rapes or murders or steals? Dumb. As if we don't have those issues in ready abundance in a capitalist and pluralistic society, and as if immigration is contributing to it in some material way.
One exception to the foregoing, of course, is all those secret federal agencies out there handing out free cash and healthcare and other cool bennies and shit to illegals AND NATIVES WHO HAVE DROPPED OUT OF THE WORKFORCElined up a mile down the road. That bothers me a lot. Our own veterans aren't taken care of so well damnit!
Jesus. I wonder if in the history of the world there has ever been an empire so economically and geo-politically successful that was at the same time as full of stupid people as is the United States. Social media has been great for that. I've been able to confirm prior suspicions of how stupid many of the people I've known most of my life really are.
Sad. Just really sad.it'sitsaeffects; it cost you a lot of money, unless, you're some kind of brilliant, pretend tax attorney.
We have record low labor force participation rates in this country for thems with low skillz and low edumacation.
There are many causes for this besides high levels of law care professionals coming to America - e.g., automation, manufacturing going overseas, welfare state encouraging idle poverty, etc - BUT there is plenty of evidence which suggests that high levels of low skilled immigration has driven down wages in construction, food processing (meat packing is good example), hospitality, etc. Yes, we get the economic benefit of lower prices in these sectors of the economy, but it's not like it was back in the day's of Bill the Butcher when the Irish Hordes were taking the Native's jerbs. Back then a man had to work or starve. Now when he drops out of the labor force, you as a tax payer pick up the tab. Just saying...
Second, planning for losers. That's how this country was built.
NOT!
Sad it's come to this. Sad that the losers in a competitive free market are driving policy. Really sad, actually. I actually remember when the winners wrote the rules of the gayme.
Populism. You will all rue the day.
For the first 150 years give or take, there weren't no such thing as wealth transfer payments. HTH.
IOW, for the first 150 years, losers lost ... completely ... and winners won.
That's the system I'm going with when I assume power.
It effects culture! We lose our edge when we go Euro-soft by protecting our least abled. Whatever some federal bureaucrat did on imports a bazillion years ago doesn't mean diddly. It didn't stop us from importing Chineze to build the RR did it? No.
Aspire to be a Spartan man. Thinking like an Athenean is not manly. It's just not manly.
There very much was "planning" to try and help the poor white guy earlier in the history of our great republic. The Republic Party was founded on 2 principles: (1) tariffs to help grow domestic industry - i.e., mor factory jerbs - and (2) keeping cheap (i.e., free) labor out of the territories. This was known as the "Free Soil" movement.
But still ...
Free Soil ... never heard of it. Free anything is unAmerican. Work for it I say.
Bottom line, fuck 'em if they can't get it together. If they won't work or can't, take 'em off the dole and maybe they'll immigrate somewheres else.
I don't really care what becomes of them. At. All. -
Don Creepy Kewg, I believe in America. America is where I make my fortune.creepycoug said:
I go back to my baseline principle: Everyone whose line goes back three or more generations here who are still "struggling" should not breed and, if over 40, should really just end it in the most painful way possible.YellowSnow said:
I'm gonna turn you into a compassionate conservative if it harelips the governor.creepycoug said:
Yes, 1813. But there weren't that many of them, and I'm guessing, just guessing, there wasn't a receiving telegram station in Texarcana!YellowSnow said:
Actually only took a spit sec to get the message through by telegraph, but still....creepycoug said:
My brother, we could barely get a message from Dubuque to Texarcana in less than a month before 1913. Nobody planned shit, at least not very well, and there was a lot less to plan. And still, doing so didn't make it right. And, still, tariffs are one thing - protecting losers who want to lose is an entirely different animal.YellowSnow said:
Creep, I respeck your rightful place as a philosopher king, but sometimes I wonder if we should revoke your membership in the higher level history discussion bored. When you say this country wasn't built on "planning" that's just wrong, wrong, wrong. How do you think federal guvmint paid the bills prior to 1913?creepycoug said:
Look. Laff all you want. Lives are being effected, oK???????? Axe Sledog. He has that shit dialed in.YellowSnow said:
Jesus - I have a shitty, pretend sales jerb, Senior Ricardo. I don't have tim to do both and then proof read my poasts here at HH.creepycoug said:
First of all, Engrish preeze in any thread about immigration and US "culture". You're welcome.YellowSnow said:
Creep, obviously like many us here, you and your spawn are winners from both liberal immigration (legal and otherwise) and the globalized economy. But you are not immune fromcreepycoug said:
I'd say the only real problem on which it is worth basing an election is that of safety ... are extremists using our border countries to gain entry, etc.? That is a concern, but then again, we're growing them now and they're already here. But still, less is certainly moar in that context. Sure, deal with MS13 or whatever the fuck it's called. No sane person would dispute that as a legitimate national interest issue.Pitchfork51 said:It's the completely insane fact that democrats refuse to even acknowledge that unchecked illegal immigration is a problem that needs to be worked on that drives people nuts.
Sure, disagreement over how to solve it is one thing.
But pretending there is no problem at all, fighting against enforcing the current laws, and calling everyone else racist is the most retarded possible angle ever.
And it's going to lose them another election.
The jobs and culture and all that shit? That is what is re-fucking-tarded. Getting hysterical every time an "illegal" rapes or murders or steals? Dumb. As if we don't have those issues in ready abundance in a capitalist and pluralistic society, and as if immigration is contributing to it in some material way.
One exception to the foregoing, of course, is all those secret federal agencies out there handing out free cash and healthcare and other cool bennies and shit to illegals AND NATIVES WHO HAVE DROPPED OUT OF THE WORKFORCElined up a mile down the road. That bothers me a lot. Our own veterans aren't taken care of so well damnit!
Jesus. I wonder if in the history of the world there has ever been an empire so economically and geo-politically successful that was at the same time as full of stupid people as is the United States. Social media has been great for that. I've been able to confirm prior suspicions of how stupid many of the people I've known most of my life really are.
Sad. Just really sad.it'sitsaeffects; it cost you a lot of money, unless, you're some kind of brilliant, pretend tax attorney.
We have record low labor force participation rates in this country for thems with low skillz and low edumacation.
There are many causes for this besides high levels of law care professionals coming to America - e.g., automation, manufacturing going overseas, welfare state encouraging idle poverty, etc - BUT there is plenty of evidence which suggests that high levels of low skilled immigration has driven down wages in construction, food processing (meat packing is good example), hospitality, etc. Yes, we get the economic benefit of lower prices in these sectors of the economy, but it's not like it was back in the day's of Bill the Butcher when the Irish Hordes were taking the Native's jerbs. Back then a man had to work or starve. Now when he drops out of the labor force, you as a tax payer pick up the tab. Just saying...
Second, planning for losers. That's how this country was built.
NOT!
Sad it's come to this. Sad that the losers in a competitive free market are driving policy. Really sad, actually. I actually remember when the winners wrote the rules of the gayme.
Populism. You will all rue the day.
For the first 150 years give or take, there weren't no such thing as wealth transfer payments. HTH.
IOW, for the first 150 years, losers lost ... completely ... and winners won.
That's the system I'm going with when I assume power.
It effects culture! We lose our edge when we go Euro-soft by protecting our least abled. Whatever some federal bureaucrat did on imports a bazillion years ago doesn't mean diddly. It didn't stop us from importing Chineze to build the RR did it? No.
Aspire to be a Spartan man. Thinking like an Athenean is not manly. It's just not manly.
There very much was "planning" to try and help the poor white guy earlier in the history of our great republic. The Republic Party was founded on 2 principles: (1) tariffs to help grow domestic industry - i.e., mor factory jerbs - and (2) keeping cheap (i.e., free) labor out of the territories. This was known as the "Free Soil" movement.
But still ...
Free Soil ... never heard of it. Free anything is unAmerican. Work for it I say.
Bottom line, fuck 'em if they can't get it together. If they won't work or can't, take 'em off the dole and maybe they'll immigrate somewheres else.
I don't really care what becomes of them. At. All.
If we're going to build a mega state, and we should, we need to start the sorting now. Instead of obsessing about hungry people sneaking in we should be discouraging the further expression of loser gene pools hat are already here. Free compulsory education and easy access to the world's best college educations for the last 100+ years, and you are still pore and unaccomplished? Yeah, your genes suck ass. It's over. Give up.
My grandfather had to settle for a second grade education and came here with absolutley nada, and among his grand and great grand children are Ivy League and Ivy equivalent graduatels, two docs, a pretend and a real lawyer, an actuary, an engineer/CFO, a Goldman I-banker and a tenured maff professor at MIT.
Collectively, we would like to say to the sledog generation (and my in-laws and their stupid relations): fuck you and get to work. Our lawns aren't going to cut themselves.
Ariba ariba!!!
We are a heartless group, we like our own and we are never leaving bitch. Too late.
More on inherited genes in a day or two when I'm at a key board. -
You can't understand the 1900s w/o understanding the 1800s. Sorry but that's the way it is.creepycoug said:
Something from the 20th century preeze? We were still dragging our knuckles in the 1800s. Nothing any politician from that time is at all chintresting to me.YellowSnow said:
Homestead Act of 1862. Look it up. Giving away free land was very American. I rest my case.creepycoug said:
Yes, 1813. But there weren't that many of them, and I'm guessing, just guessing, there wasn't a receiving telegram station in Texarcana!YellowSnow said:
Actually only took a spit sec to get the message through by telegraph, but still....creepycoug said:
My brother, we could barely get a message from Dubuque to Texarcana in less than a month before 1913. Nobody planned shit, at least not very well, and there was a lot less to plan. And still, doing so didn't make it right. And, still, tariffs are one thing - protecting losers who want to lose is an entirely different animal.YellowSnow said:
Creep, I respeck your rightful place as a philosopher king, but sometimes I wonder if we should revoke your membership in the higher level history discussion bored. When you say this country wasn't built on "planning" that's just wrong, wrong, wrong. How do you think federal guvmint paid the bills prior to 1913?creepycoug said:
Look. Laff all you want. Lives are being effected, oK???????? Axe Sledog. He has that shit dialed in.YellowSnow said:
Jesus - I have a shitty, pretend sales jerb, Senior Ricardo. I don't have tim to do both and then proof read my poasts here at HH.creepycoug said:
First of all, Engrish preeze in any thread about immigration and US "culture". You're welcome.YellowSnow said:
Creep, obviously like many us here, you and your spawn are winners from both liberal immigration (legal and otherwise) and the globalized economy. But you are not immune fromcreepycoug said:
I'd say the only real problem on which it is worth basing an election is that of safety ... are extremists using our border countries to gain entry, etc.? That is a concern, but then again, we're growing them now and they're already here. But still, less is certainly moar in that context. Sure, deal with MS13 or whatever the fuck it's called. No sane person would dispute that as a legitimate national interest issue.Pitchfork51 said:It's the completely insane fact that democrats refuse to even acknowledge that unchecked illegal immigration is a problem that needs to be worked on that drives people nuts.
Sure, disagreement over how to solve it is one thing.
But pretending there is no problem at all, fighting against enforcing the current laws, and calling everyone else racist is the most retarded possible angle ever.
And it's going to lose them another election.
The jobs and culture and all that shit? That is what is re-fucking-tarded. Getting hysterical every time an "illegal" rapes or murders or steals? Dumb. As if we don't have those issues in ready abundance in a capitalist and pluralistic society, and as if immigration is contributing to it in some material way.
One exception to the foregoing, of course, is all those secret federal agencies out there handing out free cash and healthcare and other cool bennies and shit to illegals AND NATIVES WHO HAVE DROPPED OUT OF THE WORKFORCElined up a mile down the road. That bothers me a lot. Our own veterans aren't taken care of so well damnit!
Jesus. I wonder if in the history of the world there has ever been an empire so economically and geo-politically successful that was at the same time as full of stupid people as is the United States. Social media has been great for that. I've been able to confirm prior suspicions of how stupid many of the people I've known most of my life really are.
Sad. Just really sad.it'sitsaeffects; it cost you a lot of money, unless, you're some kind of brilliant, pretend tax attorney.
We have record low labor force participation rates in this country for thems with low skillz and low edumacation.
There are many causes for this besides high levels of law care professionals coming to America - e.g., automation, manufacturing going overseas, welfare state encouraging idle poverty, etc - BUT there is plenty of evidence which suggests that high levels of low skilled immigration has driven down wages in construction, food processing (meat packing is good example), hospitality, etc. Yes, we get the economic benefit of lower prices in these sectors of the economy, but it's not like it was back in the day's of Bill the Butcher when the Irish Hordes were taking the Native's jerbs. Back then a man had to work or starve. Now when he drops out of the labor force, you as a tax payer pick up the tab. Just saying...
Second, planning for losers. That's how this country was built.
NOT!
Sad it's come to this. Sad that the losers in a competitive free market are driving policy. Really sad, actually. I actually remember when the winners wrote the rules of the gayme.
Populism. You will all rue the day.
For the first 150 years give or take, there weren't no such thing as wealth transfer payments. HTH.
IOW, for the first 150 years, losers lost ... completely ... and winners won.
That's the system I'm going with when I assume power.
It effects culture! We lose our edge when we go Euro-soft by protecting our least abled. Whatever some federal bureaucrat did on imports a bazillion years ago doesn't mean diddly. It didn't stop us from importing Chineze to build the RR did it? No.
Aspire to be a Spartan man. Thinking like an Athenean is not manly. It's just not manly.
There very much was "planning" to try and help the poor white guy earlier in the history of our great republic. The Republic Party was founded on 2 principles: (1) tariffs to help grow domestic industry - i.e., mor factory jerbs - and (2) keeping cheap (i.e., free) labor out of the territories. This was known as the "Free Soil" movement.
But still ...
Free Soil ... never heard of it. Free anything is unAmerican. Work for it I say.
Bottom line, fuck 'em if they can't get it together. If they won't work or can't, take 'em off the dole and maybe they'll immigrate somewheres else.
I don't really care what becomes of them. At. All. -
Sounds like you all learned the joys of working for the man.creepycoug said:
I go back to my baseline principle: Everyone whose line goes back three or more generations here who are still "struggling" should not breed and, if over 40, should really just end it in the most painful way possible.YellowSnow said:
I'm gonna turn you into a compassionate conservative if it harelips the governor.creepycoug said:
Yes, 1813. But there weren't that many of them, and I'm guessing, just guessing, there wasn't a receiving telegram station in Texarcana!YellowSnow said:
Actually only took a spit sec to get the message through by telegraph, but still....creepycoug said:
My brother, we could barely get a message from Dubuque to Texarcana in less than a month before 1913. Nobody planned shit, at least not very well, and there was a lot less to plan. And still, doing so didn't make it right. And, still, tariffs are one thing - protecting losers who want to lose is an entirely different animal.YellowSnow said:
Creep, I respeck your rightful place as a philosopher king, but sometimes I wonder if we should revoke your membership in the higher level history discussion bored. When you say this country wasn't built on "planning" that's just wrong, wrong, wrong. How do you think federal guvmint paid the bills prior to 1913?creepycoug said:
Look. Laff all you want. Lives are being effected, oK???????? Axe Sledog. He has that shit dialed in.YellowSnow said:
Jesus - I have a shitty, pretend sales jerb, Senior Ricardo. I don't have tim to do both and then proof read my poasts here at HH.creepycoug said:
First of all, Engrish preeze in any thread about immigration and US "culture". You're welcome.YellowSnow said:
Creep, obviously like many us here, you and your spawn are winners from both liberal immigration (legal and otherwise) and the globalized economy. But you are not immune fromcreepycoug said:
I'd say the only real problem on which it is worth basing an election is that of safety ... are extremists using our border countries to gain entry, etc.? That is a concern, but then again, we're growing them now and they're already here. But still, less is certainly moar in that context. Sure, deal with MS13 or whatever the fuck it's called. No sane person would dispute that as a legitimate national interest issue.Pitchfork51 said:It's the completely insane fact that democrats refuse to even acknowledge that unchecked illegal immigration is a problem that needs to be worked on that drives people nuts.
Sure, disagreement over how to solve it is one thing.
But pretending there is no problem at all, fighting against enforcing the current laws, and calling everyone else racist is the most retarded possible angle ever.
And it's going to lose them another election.
The jobs and culture and all that shit? That is what is re-fucking-tarded. Getting hysterical every time an "illegal" rapes or murders or steals? Dumb. As if we don't have those issues in ready abundance in a capitalist and pluralistic society, and as if immigration is contributing to it in some material way.
One exception to the foregoing, of course, is all those secret federal agencies out there handing out free cash and healthcare and other cool bennies and shit to illegals AND NATIVES WHO HAVE DROPPED OUT OF THE WORKFORCElined up a mile down the road. That bothers me a lot. Our own veterans aren't taken care of so well damnit!
Jesus. I wonder if in the history of the world there has ever been an empire so economically and geo-politically successful that was at the same time as full of stupid people as is the United States. Social media has been great for that. I've been able to confirm prior suspicions of how stupid many of the people I've known most of my life really are.
Sad. Just really sad.it'sitsaeffects; it cost you a lot of money, unless, you're some kind of brilliant, pretend tax attorney.
We have record low labor force participation rates in this country for thems with low skillz and low edumacation.
There are many causes for this besides high levels of law care professionals coming to America - e.g., automation, manufacturing going overseas, welfare state encouraging idle poverty, etc - BUT there is plenty of evidence which suggests that high levels of low skilled immigration has driven down wages in construction, food processing (meat packing is good example), hospitality, etc. Yes, we get the economic benefit of lower prices in these sectors of the economy, but it's not like it was back in the day's of Bill the Butcher when the Irish Hordes were taking the Native's jerbs. Back then a man had to work or starve. Now when he drops out of the labor force, you as a tax payer pick up the tab. Just saying...
Second, planning for losers. That's how this country was built.
NOT!
Sad it's come to this. Sad that the losers in a competitive free market are driving policy. Really sad, actually. I actually remember when the winners wrote the rules of the gayme.
Populism. You will all rue the day.
For the first 150 years give or take, there weren't no such thing as wealth transfer payments. HTH.
IOW, for the first 150 years, losers lost ... completely ... and winners won.
That's the system I'm going with when I assume power.
It effects culture! We lose our edge when we go Euro-soft by protecting our least abled. Whatever some federal bureaucrat did on imports a bazillion years ago doesn't mean diddly. It didn't stop us from importing Chineze to build the RR did it? No.
Aspire to be a Spartan man. Thinking like an Athenean is not manly. It's just not manly.
There very much was "planning" to try and help the poor white guy earlier in the history of our great republic. The Republic Party was founded on 2 principles: (1) tariffs to help grow domestic industry - i.e., mor factory jerbs - and (2) keeping cheap (i.e., free) labor out of the territories. This was known as the "Free Soil" movement.
But still ...
Free Soil ... never heard of it. Free anything is unAmerican. Work for it I say.
Bottom line, fuck 'em if they can't get it together. If they won't work or can't, take 'em off the dole and maybe they'll immigrate somewheres else.
I don't really care what becomes of them. At. All.
If we're going to build a mega state, and we should, we need to start the sorting now. Instead of obsessing about hungry people sneaking in we should be discouraging the further expression of loser gene pools hat are already here. Free compulsory education and easy access to the world's best college educations for the last 100+ years, and you are still pore and unaccomplished? Yeah, your genes suck ass. It's over. Give up.
My grandfather had to settle for a second grade education and came here with absolutley nada, and among his grand and great grand children are Ivy League and Ivy equivalent graduatels, two docs, a pretend and a real lawyer, an actuary, an engineer/CFO, a Goldman I-banker and a tenured maff professor at MIT.
Collectively, we would like to say to the sledog generation (and my in-laws and their stupid relations): fuck you and get to work. Our lawns aren't going to cut themselves.
Ariba ariba!!!
We are a heartless group, we like our own and we are never leaving bitch. Too late.
Congrats -
OK ASU. I'm sure you figured out a way around it. Fuck off anyway.Pitchfork51 said:
Sounds like you all learned the joys of working for the man.creepycoug said:
I go back to my baseline principle: Everyone whose line goes back three or more generations here who are still "struggling" should not breed and, if over 40, should really just end it in the most painful way possible.YellowSnow said:
I'm gonna turn you into a compassionate conservative if it harelips the governor.creepycoug said:
Yes, 1813. But there weren't that many of them, and I'm guessing, just guessing, there wasn't a receiving telegram station in Texarcana!YellowSnow said:
Actually only took a spit sec to get the message through by telegraph, but still....creepycoug said:
My brother, we could barely get a message from Dubuque to Texarcana in less than a month before 1913. Nobody planned shit, at least not very well, and there was a lot less to plan. And still, doing so didn't make it right. And, still, tariffs are one thing - protecting losers who want to lose is an entirely different animal.YellowSnow said:
Creep, I respeck your rightful place as a philosopher king, but sometimes I wonder if we should revoke your membership in the higher level history discussion bored. When you say this country wasn't built on "planning" that's just wrong, wrong, wrong. How do you think federal guvmint paid the bills prior to 1913?creepycoug said:
Look. Laff all you want. Lives are being effected, oK???????? Axe Sledog. He has that shit dialed in.YellowSnow said:
Jesus - I have a shitty, pretend sales jerb, Senior Ricardo. I don't have tim to do both and then proof read my poasts here at HH.creepycoug said:
First of all, Engrish preeze in any thread about immigration and US "culture". You're welcome.YellowSnow said:
Creep, obviously like many us here, you and your spawn are winners from both liberal immigration (legal and otherwise) and the globalized economy. But you are not immune fromcreepycoug said:
I'd say the only real problem on which it is worth basing an election is that of safety ... are extremists using our border countries to gain entry, etc.? That is a concern, but then again, we're growing them now and they're already here. But still, less is certainly moar in that context. Sure, deal with MS13 or whatever the fuck it's called. No sane person would dispute that as a legitimate national interest issue.Pitchfork51 said:It's the completely insane fact that democrats refuse to even acknowledge that unchecked illegal immigration is a problem that needs to be worked on that drives people nuts.
Sure, disagreement over how to solve it is one thing.
But pretending there is no problem at all, fighting against enforcing the current laws, and calling everyone else racist is the most retarded possible angle ever.
And it's going to lose them another election.
The jobs and culture and all that shit? That is what is re-fucking-tarded. Getting hysterical every time an "illegal" rapes or murders or steals? Dumb. As if we don't have those issues in ready abundance in a capitalist and pluralistic society, and as if immigration is contributing to it in some material way.
One exception to the foregoing, of course, is all those secret federal agencies out there handing out free cash and healthcare and other cool bennies and shit to illegals AND NATIVES WHO HAVE DROPPED OUT OF THE WORKFORCElined up a mile down the road. That bothers me a lot. Our own veterans aren't taken care of so well damnit!
Jesus. I wonder if in the history of the world there has ever been an empire so economically and geo-politically successful that was at the same time as full of stupid people as is the United States. Social media has been great for that. I've been able to confirm prior suspicions of how stupid many of the people I've known most of my life really are.
Sad. Just really sad.it'sitsaeffects; it cost you a lot of money, unless, you're some kind of brilliant, pretend tax attorney.
We have record low labor force participation rates in this country for thems with low skillz and low edumacation.
There are many causes for this besides high levels of law care professionals coming to America - e.g., automation, manufacturing going overseas, welfare state encouraging idle poverty, etc - BUT there is plenty of evidence which suggests that high levels of low skilled immigration has driven down wages in construction, food processing (meat packing is good example), hospitality, etc. Yes, we get the economic benefit of lower prices in these sectors of the economy, but it's not like it was back in the day's of Bill the Butcher when the Irish Hordes were taking the Native's jerbs. Back then a man had to work or starve. Now when he drops out of the labor force, you as a tax payer pick up the tab. Just saying...
Second, planning for losers. That's how this country was built.
NOT!
Sad it's come to this. Sad that the losers in a competitive free market are driving policy. Really sad, actually. I actually remember when the winners wrote the rules of the gayme.
Populism. You will all rue the day.
For the first 150 years give or take, there weren't no such thing as wealth transfer payments. HTH.
IOW, for the first 150 years, losers lost ... completely ... and winners won.
That's the system I'm going with when I assume power.
It effects culture! We lose our edge when we go Euro-soft by protecting our least abled. Whatever some federal bureaucrat did on imports a bazillion years ago doesn't mean diddly. It didn't stop us from importing Chineze to build the RR did it? No.
Aspire to be a Spartan man. Thinking like an Athenean is not manly. It's just not manly.
There very much was "planning" to try and help the poor white guy earlier in the history of our great republic. The Republic Party was founded on 2 principles: (1) tariffs to help grow domestic industry - i.e., mor factory jerbs - and (2) keeping cheap (i.e., free) labor out of the territories. This was known as the "Free Soil" movement.
But still ...
Free Soil ... never heard of it. Free anything is unAmerican. Work for it I say.
Bottom line, fuck 'em if they can't get it together. If they won't work or can't, take 'em off the dole and maybe they'll immigrate somewheres else.
I don't really care what becomes of them. At. All.
If we're going to build a mega state, and we should, we need to start the sorting now. Instead of obsessing about hungry people sneaking in we should be discouraging the further expression of loser gene pools hat are already here. Free compulsory education and easy access to the world's best college educations for the last 100+ years, and you are still pore and unaccomplished? Yeah, your genes suck ass. It's over. Give up.
My grandfather had to settle for a second grade education and came here with absolutley nada, and among his grand and great grand children are Ivy League and Ivy equivalent graduatels, two docs, a pretend and a real lawyer, an actuary, an engineer/CFO, a Goldman I-banker and a tenured maff professor at MIT.
Collectively, we would like to say to the sledog generation (and my in-laws and their stupid relations): fuck you and get to work. Our lawns aren't going to cut themselves.
Ariba ariba!!!
We are a heartless group, we like our own and we are never leaving bitch. Too late.
Congrats
PS: everybody but the man works for the man. I laff at people who are self-employed who think they're free somehow. They are more obliged than those of us who work at larger organizations owned by investors. I know this because my father was one of those people. He made a lot of money, but he was as 'owned' as I am. Just by different people. -
Nope. Not chintrested. Ancient history, sure. Chintresting. How a bunch of white doods were managing a frontier nation? No tanks. Unchintresting.YellowSnow said:
You can't understand the 1900s w/o understanding the 1800s. Sorry but that's the way it is.creepycoug said:
Something from the 20th century preeze? We were still dragging our knuckles in the 1800s. Nothing any politician from that time is at all chintresting to me.YellowSnow said:
Homestead Act of 1862. Look it up. Giving away free land was very American. I rest my case.creepycoug said:
Yes, 1813. But there weren't that many of them, and I'm guessing, just guessing, there wasn't a receiving telegram station in Texarcana!YellowSnow said:
Actually only took a spit sec to get the message through by telegraph, but still....creepycoug said:
My brother, we could barely get a message from Dubuque to Texarcana in less than a month before 1913. Nobody planned shit, at least not very well, and there was a lot less to plan. And still, doing so didn't make it right. And, still, tariffs are one thing - protecting losers who want to lose is an entirely different animal.YellowSnow said:
Creep, I respeck your rightful place as a philosopher king, but sometimes I wonder if we should revoke your membership in the higher level history discussion bored. When you say this country wasn't built on "planning" that's just wrong, wrong, wrong. How do you think federal guvmint paid the bills prior to 1913?creepycoug said:
Look. Laff all you want. Lives are being effected, oK???????? Axe Sledog. He has that shit dialed in.YellowSnow said:
Jesus - I have a shitty, pretend sales jerb, Senior Ricardo. I don't have tim to do both and then proof read my poasts here at HH.creepycoug said:
First of all, Engrish preeze in any thread about immigration and US "culture". You're welcome.YellowSnow said:
Creep, obviously like many us here, you and your spawn are winners from both liberal immigration (legal and otherwise) and the globalized economy. But you are not immune fromcreepycoug said:
I'd say the only real problem on which it is worth basing an election is that of safety ... are extremists using our border countries to gain entry, etc.? That is a concern, but then again, we're growing them now and they're already here. But still, less is certainly moar in that context. Sure, deal with MS13 or whatever the fuck it's called. No sane person would dispute that as a legitimate national interest issue.Pitchfork51 said:It's the completely insane fact that democrats refuse to even acknowledge that unchecked illegal immigration is a problem that needs to be worked on that drives people nuts.
Sure, disagreement over how to solve it is one thing.
But pretending there is no problem at all, fighting against enforcing the current laws, and calling everyone else racist is the most retarded possible angle ever.
And it's going to lose them another election.
The jobs and culture and all that shit? That is what is re-fucking-tarded. Getting hysterical every time an "illegal" rapes or murders or steals? Dumb. As if we don't have those issues in ready abundance in a capitalist and pluralistic society, and as if immigration is contributing to it in some material way.
One exception to the foregoing, of course, is all those secret federal agencies out there handing out free cash and healthcare and other cool bennies and shit to illegals AND NATIVES WHO HAVE DROPPED OUT OF THE WORKFORCElined up a mile down the road. That bothers me a lot. Our own veterans aren't taken care of so well damnit!
Jesus. I wonder if in the history of the world there has ever been an empire so economically and geo-politically successful that was at the same time as full of stupid people as is the United States. Social media has been great for that. I've been able to confirm prior suspicions of how stupid many of the people I've known most of my life really are.
Sad. Just really sad.it'sitsaeffects; it cost you a lot of money, unless, you're some kind of brilliant, pretend tax attorney.
We have record low labor force participation rates in this country for thems with low skillz and low edumacation.
There are many causes for this besides high levels of law care professionals coming to America - e.g., automation, manufacturing going overseas, welfare state encouraging idle poverty, etc - BUT there is plenty of evidence which suggests that high levels of low skilled immigration has driven down wages in construction, food processing (meat packing is good example), hospitality, etc. Yes, we get the economic benefit of lower prices in these sectors of the economy, but it's not like it was back in the day's of Bill the Butcher when the Irish Hordes were taking the Native's jerbs. Back then a man had to work or starve. Now when he drops out of the labor force, you as a tax payer pick up the tab. Just saying...
Second, planning for losers. That's how this country was built.
NOT!
Sad it's come to this. Sad that the losers in a competitive free market are driving policy. Really sad, actually. I actually remember when the winners wrote the rules of the gayme.
Populism. You will all rue the day.
For the first 150 years give or take, there weren't no such thing as wealth transfer payments. HTH.
IOW, for the first 150 years, losers lost ... completely ... and winners won.
That's the system I'm going with when I assume power.
It effects culture! We lose our edge when we go Euro-soft by protecting our least abled. Whatever some federal bureaucrat did on imports a bazillion years ago doesn't mean diddly. It didn't stop us from importing Chineze to build the RR did it? No.
Aspire to be a Spartan man. Thinking like an Athenean is not manly. It's just not manly.
There very much was "planning" to try and help the poor white guy earlier in the history of our great republic. The Republic Party was founded on 2 principles: (1) tariffs to help grow domestic industry - i.e., mor factory jerbs - and (2) keeping cheap (i.e., free) labor out of the territories. This was known as the "Free Soil" movement.
But still ...
Free Soil ... never heard of it. Free anything is unAmerican. Work for it I say.
Bottom line, fuck 'em if they can't get it together. If they won't work or can't, take 'em off the dole and maybe they'll immigrate somewheres else.
I don't really care what becomes of them. At. All.
I can understand the 1900s as much as I need to on its own merits.
Now let's go. -
Remember the Maine, Ricky? 1800's. That's when a bunch of honkeys freed your peoples from Spaniard tyranny.creepycoug said:
Nope. Not chintrested. Ancient history, sure. Chintresting. How a bunch of white doods were managing a frontier nation? No tanks. Unchintresting.YellowSnow said:
You can't understand the 1900s w/o understanding the 1800s. Sorry but that's the way it is.creepycoug said:
Something from the 20th century preeze? We were still dragging our knuckles in the 1800s. Nothing any politician from that time is at all chintresting to me.YellowSnow said:
Homestead Act of 1862. Look it up. Giving away free land was very American. I rest my case.creepycoug said:
Yes, 1813. But there weren't that many of them, and I'm guessing, just guessing, there wasn't a receiving telegram station in Texarcana!YellowSnow said:
Actually only took a spit sec to get the message through by telegraph, but still....creepycoug said:
My brother, we could barely get a message from Dubuque to Texarcana in less than a month before 1913. Nobody planned shit, at least not very well, and there was a lot less to plan. And still, doing so didn't make it right. And, still, tariffs are one thing - protecting losers who want to lose is an entirely different animal.YellowSnow said:
Creep, I respeck your rightful place as a philosopher king, but sometimes I wonder if we should revoke your membership in the higher level history discussion bored. When you say this country wasn't built on "planning" that's just wrong, wrong, wrong. How do you think federal guvmint paid the bills prior to 1913?creepycoug said:
Look. Laff all you want. Lives are being effected, oK???????? Axe Sledog. He has that shit dialed in.YellowSnow said:
Jesus - I have a shitty, pretend sales jerb, Senior Ricardo. I don't have tim to do both and then proof read my poasts here at HH.creepycoug said:
First of all, Engrish preeze in any thread about immigration and US "culture". You're welcome.YellowSnow said:
Creep, obviously like many us here, you and your spawn are winners from both liberal immigration (legal and otherwise) and the globalized economy. But you are not immune fromcreepycoug said:
I'd say the only real problem on which it is worth basing an election is that of safety ... are extremists using our border countries to gain entry, etc.? That is a concern, but then again, we're growing them now and they're already here. But still, less is certainly moar in that context. Sure, deal with MS13 or whatever the fuck it's called. No sane person would dispute that as a legitimate national interest issue.Pitchfork51 said:It's the completely insane fact that democrats refuse to even acknowledge that unchecked illegal immigration is a problem that needs to be worked on that drives people nuts.
Sure, disagreement over how to solve it is one thing.
But pretending there is no problem at all, fighting against enforcing the current laws, and calling everyone else racist is the most retarded possible angle ever.
And it's going to lose them another election.
The jobs and culture and all that shit? That is what is re-fucking-tarded. Getting hysterical every time an "illegal" rapes or murders or steals? Dumb. As if we don't have those issues in ready abundance in a capitalist and pluralistic society, and as if immigration is contributing to it in some material way.
One exception to the foregoing, of course, is all those secret federal agencies out there handing out free cash and healthcare and other cool bennies and shit to illegals AND NATIVES WHO HAVE DROPPED OUT OF THE WORKFORCElined up a mile down the road. That bothers me a lot. Our own veterans aren't taken care of so well damnit!
Jesus. I wonder if in the history of the world there has ever been an empire so economically and geo-politically successful that was at the same time as full of stupid people as is the United States. Social media has been great for that. I've been able to confirm prior suspicions of how stupid many of the people I've known most of my life really are.
Sad. Just really sad.it'sitsaeffects; it cost you a lot of money, unless, you're some kind of brilliant, pretend tax attorney.
We have record low labor force participation rates in this country for thems with low skillz and low edumacation.
There are many causes for this besides high levels of law care professionals coming to America - e.g., automation, manufacturing going overseas, welfare state encouraging idle poverty, etc - BUT there is plenty of evidence which suggests that high levels of low skilled immigration has driven down wages in construction, food processing (meat packing is good example), hospitality, etc. Yes, we get the economic benefit of lower prices in these sectors of the economy, but it's not like it was back in the day's of Bill the Butcher when the Irish Hordes were taking the Native's jerbs. Back then a man had to work or starve. Now when he drops out of the labor force, you as a tax payer pick up the tab. Just saying...
Second, planning for losers. That's how this country was built.
NOT!
Sad it's come to this. Sad that the losers in a competitive free market are driving policy. Really sad, actually. I actually remember when the winners wrote the rules of the gayme.
Populism. You will all rue the day.
For the first 150 years give or take, there weren't no such thing as wealth transfer payments. HTH.
IOW, for the first 150 years, losers lost ... completely ... and winners won.
That's the system I'm going with when I assume power.
It effects culture! We lose our edge when we go Euro-soft by protecting our least abled. Whatever some federal bureaucrat did on imports a bazillion years ago doesn't mean diddly. It didn't stop us from importing Chineze to build the RR did it? No.
Aspire to be a Spartan man. Thinking like an Athenean is not manly. It's just not manly.
There very much was "planning" to try and help the poor white guy earlier in the history of our great republic. The Republic Party was founded on 2 principles: (1) tariffs to help grow domestic industry - i.e., mor factory jerbs - and (2) keeping cheap (i.e., free) labor out of the territories. This was known as the "Free Soil" movement.
But still ...
Free Soil ... never heard of it. Free anything is unAmerican. Work for it I say.
Bottom line, fuck 'em if they can't get it together. If they won't work or can't, take 'em off the dole and maybe they'll immigrate somewheres else.
I don't really care what becomes of them. At. All.
I can understand the 1900s as much as I need to on its own merits.
Now let's go. -
My people were the Spaniards.YellowSnow said:
Remember the Maine, Ricky? 1800's. That's when a bunch of honkeys freed your peoples from Spaniard tyranny.creepycoug said:
Nope. Not chintrested. Ancient history, sure. Chintresting. How a bunch of white doods were managing a frontier nation? No tanks. Unchintresting.YellowSnow said:
You can't understand the 1900s w/o understanding the 1800s. Sorry but that's the way it is.creepycoug said:
Something from the 20th century preeze? We were still dragging our knuckles in the 1800s. Nothing any politician from that time is at all chintresting to me.YellowSnow said:
Homestead Act of 1862. Look it up. Giving away free land was very American. I rest my case.creepycoug said:
Yes, 1813. But there weren't that many of them, and I'm guessing, just guessing, there wasn't a receiving telegram station in Texarcana!YellowSnow said:
Actually only took a spit sec to get the message through by telegraph, but still....creepycoug said:
My brother, we could barely get a message from Dubuque to Texarcana in less than a month before 1913. Nobody planned shit, at least not very well, and there was a lot less to plan. And still, doing so didn't make it right. And, still, tariffs are one thing - protecting losers who want to lose is an entirely different animal.YellowSnow said:
Creep, I respeck your rightful place as a philosopher king, but sometimes I wonder if we should revoke your membership in the higher level history discussion bored. When you say this country wasn't built on "planning" that's just wrong, wrong, wrong. How do you think federal guvmint paid the bills prior to 1913?creepycoug said:
Look. Laff all you want. Lives are being effected, oK???????? Axe Sledog. He has that shit dialed in.YellowSnow said:
Jesus - I have a shitty, pretend sales jerb, Senior Ricardo. I don't have tim to do both and then proof read my poasts here at HH.creepycoug said:
First of all, Engrish preeze in any thread about immigration and US "culture". You're welcome.YellowSnow said:
Creep, obviously like many us here, you and your spawn are winners from both liberal immigration (legal and otherwise) and the globalized economy. But you are not immune fromcreepycoug said:
I'd say the only real problem on which it is worth basing an election is that of safety ... are extremists using our border countries to gain entry, etc.? That is a concern, but then again, we're growing them now and they're already here. But still, less is certainly moar in that context. Sure, deal with MS13 or whatever the fuck it's called. No sane person would dispute that as a legitimate national interest issue.Pitchfork51 said:It's the completely insane fact that democrats refuse to even acknowledge that unchecked illegal immigration is a problem that needs to be worked on that drives people nuts.
Sure, disagreement over how to solve it is one thing.
But pretending there is no problem at all, fighting against enforcing the current laws, and calling everyone else racist is the most retarded possible angle ever.
And it's going to lose them another election.
The jobs and culture and all that shit? That is what is re-fucking-tarded. Getting hysterical every time an "illegal" rapes or murders or steals? Dumb. As if we don't have those issues in ready abundance in a capitalist and pluralistic society, and as if immigration is contributing to it in some material way.
One exception to the foregoing, of course, is all those secret federal agencies out there handing out free cash and healthcare and other cool bennies and shit to illegals AND NATIVES WHO HAVE DROPPED OUT OF THE WORKFORCElined up a mile down the road. That bothers me a lot. Our own veterans aren't taken care of so well damnit!
Jesus. I wonder if in the history of the world there has ever been an empire so economically and geo-politically successful that was at the same time as full of stupid people as is the United States. Social media has been great for that. I've been able to confirm prior suspicions of how stupid many of the people I've known most of my life really are.
Sad. Just really sad.it'sitsaeffects; it cost you a lot of money, unless, you're some kind of brilliant, pretend tax attorney.
We have record low labor force participation rates in this country for thems with low skillz and low edumacation.
There are many causes for this besides high levels of law care professionals coming to America - e.g., automation, manufacturing going overseas, welfare state encouraging idle poverty, etc - BUT there is plenty of evidence which suggests that high levels of low skilled immigration has driven down wages in construction, food processing (meat packing is good example), hospitality, etc. Yes, we get the economic benefit of lower prices in these sectors of the economy, but it's not like it was back in the day's of Bill the Butcher when the Irish Hordes were taking the Native's jerbs. Back then a man had to work or starve. Now when he drops out of the labor force, you as a tax payer pick up the tab. Just saying...
Second, planning for losers. That's how this country was built.
NOT!
Sad it's come to this. Sad that the losers in a competitive free market are driving policy. Really sad, actually. I actually remember when the winners wrote the rules of the gayme.
Populism. You will all rue the day.
For the first 150 years give or take, there weren't no such thing as wealth transfer payments. HTH.
IOW, for the first 150 years, losers lost ... completely ... and winners won.
That's the system I'm going with when I assume power.
It effects culture! We lose our edge when we go Euro-soft by protecting our least abled. Whatever some federal bureaucrat did on imports a bazillion years ago doesn't mean diddly. It didn't stop us from importing Chineze to build the RR did it? No.
Aspire to be a Spartan man. Thinking like an Athenean is not manly. It's just not manly.
There very much was "planning" to try and help the poor white guy earlier in the history of our great republic. The Republic Party was founded on 2 principles: (1) tariffs to help grow domestic industry - i.e., mor factory jerbs - and (2) keeping cheap (i.e., free) labor out of the territories. This was known as the "Free Soil" movement.
But still ...
Free Soil ... never heard of it. Free anything is unAmerican. Work for it I say.
Bottom line, fuck 'em if they can't get it together. If they won't work or can't, take 'em off the dole and maybe they'll immigrate somewheres else.
I don't really care what becomes of them. At. All.
I can understand the 1900s as much as I need to on its own merits.
Now let's go.
"Mas se perdio em Cuba." A saying that is analogous to our "It could be worse"; whatever it is that occurred, "more was lost in "Cuba."
At that time, a lot of the people in Cuba maintained dual citizenship with Spain. Much of my family did b4 the revolution. Gramps was from Las Islas Canaria; Abuela from Barcelona. Cuba was Spain's favorite colony; so we didn't really care and, as history would show, we just might have been better off with the Spaniards. What did shaking loose get us?
-
creepycoug said:YellowSnow said:
Remember the Maine, Ricky? 1800's. That's when a bunch of honkeys freed your peoples from Spaniard tyranny.creepycoug said:
Nope. Not chintrested. Ancient history, sure. Chintresting. How a bunch of white doods were managing a frontier nation? No tanks. Unchintresting.YellowSnow said:
You can't understand the 1900s w/o understanding the 1800s. Sorry but that's the way it is.creepycoug said:
Something from the 20th century preeze? We were still dragging our knuckles in the 1800s. Nothing any politician from that time is at all chintresting to me.YellowSnow said:
Homestead Act of 1862. Look it up. Giving away free land was very American. I rest my case.creepycoug said:
Yes, 1813. But there weren't that many of them, and I'm guessing, just guessing, there wasn't a receiving telegram station in Texarcana!YellowSnow said:
Actually only took a spit sec to get the message through by telegraph, but still....creepycoug said:
My brother, we could barely get a message from Dubuque to Texarcana in less than a month before 1913. Nobody planned shit, at least not very well, and there was a lot less to plan. And still, doing so didn't make it right. And, still, tariffs are one thing - protecting losers who want to lose is an entirely different animal.YellowSnow said:
Creep, I respeck your rightful place as a philosopher king, but sometimes I wonder if we should revoke your membership in the higher level history discussion bored. When you say this country wasn't built on "planning" that's just wrong, wrong, wrong. How do you think federal guvmint paid the bills prior to 1913?creepycoug said:
Look. Laff all you want. Lives are being effected, oK???????? Axe Sledog. He has that shit dialed in.YellowSnow said:
Jesus - I have a shitty, pretend sales jerb, Senior Ricardo. I don't have tim to do both and then proof read my poasts here at HH.creepycoug said:
First of all, Engrish preeze in any thread about immigration and US "culture". You're welcome.YellowSnow said:
Creep, obviously like many us here, you and your spawn are winners from both liberal immigration (legal and otherwise) and the globalized economy. But you are not immune fromcreepycoug said:
I'd say the only real problem on which it is worth basing an election is that of safety ... are extremists using our border countries to gain entry, etc.? That is a concern, but then again, we're growing them now and they're already here. But still, less is certainly moar in that context. Sure, deal with MS13 or whatever the fuck it's called. No sane person would dispute that as a legitimate national interest issue.Pitchfork51 said:It's the completely insane fact that democrats refuse to even acknowledge that unchecked illegal immigration is a problem that needs to be worked on that drives people nuts.
Sure, disagreement over how to solve it is one thing.
But pretending there is no problem at all, fighting against enforcing the current laws, and calling everyone else racist is the most retarded possible angle ever.
And it's going to lose them another election.
The jobs and culture and all that shit? That is what is re-fucking-tarded. Getting hysterical every time an "illegal" rapes or murders or steals? Dumb. As if we don't have those issues in ready abundance in a capitalist and pluralistic society, and as if immigration is contributing to it in some material way.
One exception to the foregoing, of course, is all those secret federal agencies out there handing out free cash and healthcare and other cool bennies and shit to illegals AND NATIVES WHO HAVE DROPPED OUT OF THE WORKFORCElined up a mile down the road. That bothers me a lot. Our own veterans aren't taken care of so well damnit!
Jesus. I wonder if in the history of the world there has ever been an empire so economically and geo-politically successful that was at the same time as full of stupid people as is the United States. Social media has been great for that. I've been able to confirm prior suspicions of how stupid many of the people I've known most of my life really are.
Sad. Just really sad.it'sitsaeffects; it cost you a lot of money, unless, you're some kind of brilliant, pretend tax attorney.
We have record low labor force participation rates in this country for thems with low skillz and low edumacation.
There are many causes for this besides high levels of law care professionals coming to America - e.g., automation, manufacturing going overseas, welfare state encouraging idle poverty, etc - BUT there is plenty of evidence which suggests that high levels of low skilled immigration has driven down wages in construction, food processing (meat packing is good example), hospitality, etc. Yes, we get the economic benefit of lower prices in these sectors of the economy, but it's not like it was back in the day's of Bill the Butcher when the Irish Hordes were taking the Native's jerbs. Back then a man had to work or starve. Now when he drops out of the labor force, you as a tax payer pick up the tab. Just saying...
Second, planning for losers. That's how this country was built.
NOT!
Sad it's come to this. Sad that the losers in a competitive free market are driving policy. Really sad, actually. I actually remember when the winners wrote the rules of the gayme.
Populism. You will all rue the day.
For the first 150 years give or take, there weren't no such thing as wealth transfer payments. HTH.
IOW, for the first 150 years, losers lost ... completely ... and winners won.
That's the system I'm going with when I assume power.
It effects culture! We lose our edge when we go Euro-soft by protecting our least abled. Whatever some federal bureaucrat did on imports a bazillion years ago doesn't mean diddly. It didn't stop us from importing Chineze to build the RR did it? No.
Aspire to be a Spartan man. Thinking like an Athenean is not manly. It's just not manly.
There very much was "planning" to try and help the poor white guy earlier in the history of our great republic. The Republic Party was founded on 2 principles: (1) tariffs to help grow domestic industry - i.e., mor factory jerbs - and (2) keeping cheap (i.e., free) labor out of the territories. This was known as the "Free Soil" movement.
But still ...
Free Soil ... never heard of it. Free anything is unAmerican. Work for it I say.
Bottom line, fuck 'em if they can't get it together. If they won't work or can't, take 'em off the dole and maybe they'll immigrate somewheres else.
I don't really care what becomes of them. At. All.
I can understand the 1900s as much as I need to on its own merits.
Now let's go.
Mi gente eran los españoles.
"Mas se perdio em Cuba". Un dicho que es análogo a nuestro "Podría ser peor"; sea lo que sea que haya ocurrido, "más se perdió en" Cuba ".
En ese momento, mucha gente en Cuba mantenía la doble ciudadanía con España. Gran parte de mi familia hizo la revolución. Gramps era de Las Islas Canaria; Abuela de Barcelona. Cuba era la colonia favorita de España; así que realmente no nos importó y, como lo mostraría la historia, podríamos haber estado mejor con los españoles. ¿Qué nos dejó temblar? -
I don't like Republicans either. But Democrats just follow the whims of their wealthy contributors in a more dilluted way. Then they champion the fat BLM shakedown bitch and tell white men to stfu and listen.2001400ex said:
I know that's what the news reports and what you believe. And I am not a fan of sanctuary cities and some other things like that.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Most Democrats pander to illegals, trannies, fags, and the habitual welfare takers more than honest and hard working working and middle class folks. Keep struggling.2001400ex said:
Yes because ignorant people like you think what you typed is correct.Pitchfork51 said:It's the completely insane fact that democrats refuse to even acknowledge that unchecked illegal immigration is a problem that needs to be worked on that drives people nuts.
Sure, disagreement over how to solve it is one thing.
But pretending there is no problem at all, fighting against enforcing the current laws, and calling everyone else racist is the most retarded possible angle ever.
And it's going to lose them another election.
That being said, Democrats are on the side of unions and trying (tho failing) at making medical insurance more affordable for the middle class. Rather than Republicans siding with big business and the wealthy.
Not to mention that it's just humane to be accepting to the LGBT crowd. But keep being a homophobe, that's working well for you so far. -
Now we're getting somewhere, Creep. This is a fascinating counter factual- i.e., how might Cuber have turned if Los Yankuis had not brought libertad? My guess: Franco would have not allowed Ruskie missiles and Bicardi would still be making rum there.creepycoug said:
My people were the Spaniards.YellowSnow said:
Remember the Maine, Ricky? 1800's. That's when a bunch of honkeys freed your peoples from Spaniard tyranny.creepycoug said:
Nope. Not chintrested. Ancient history, sure. Chintresting. How a bunch of white doods were managing a frontier nation? No tanks. Unchintresting.YellowSnow said:
You can't understand the 1900s w/o understanding the 1800s. Sorry but that's the way it is.creepycoug said:
Something from the 20th century preeze? We were still dragging our knuckles in the 1800s. Nothing any politician from that time is at all chintresting to me.YellowSnow said:
Homestead Act of 1862. Look it up. Giving away free land was very American. I rest my case.creepycoug said:
Yes, 1813. But there weren't that many of them, and I'm guessing, just guessing, there wasn't a receiving telegram station in Texarcana!YellowSnow said:
Actually only took a spit sec to get the message through by telegraph, but still....creepycoug said:
My brother, we could barely get a message from Dubuque to Texarcana in less than a month before 1913. Nobody planned shit, at least not very well, and there was a lot less to plan. And still, doing so didn't make it right. And, still, tariffs are one thing - protecting losers who want to lose is an entirely different animal.YellowSnow said:
Creep, I respeck your rightful place as a philosopher king, but sometimes I wonder if we should revoke your membership in the higher level history discussion bored. When you say this country wasn't built on "planning" that's just wrong, wrong, wrong. How do you think federal guvmint paid the bills prior to 1913?creepycoug said:
Look. Laff all you want. Lives are being effected, oK???????? Axe Sledog. He has that shit dialed in.YellowSnow said:
Jesus - I have a shitty, pretend sales jerb, Senior Ricardo. I don't have tim to do both and then proof read my poasts here at HH.creepycoug said:
First of all, Engrish preeze in any thread about immigration and US "culture". You're welcome.YellowSnow said:
Creep, obviously like many us here, you and your spawn are winners from both liberal immigration (legal and otherwise) and the globalized economy. But you are not immune fromcreepycoug said:
I'd say the only real problem on which it is worth basing an election is that of safety ... are extremists using our border countries to gain entry, etc.? That is a concern, but then again, we're growing them now and they're already here. But still, less is certainly moar in that context. Sure, deal with MS13 or whatever the fuck it's called. No sane person would dispute that as a legitimate national interest issue.Pitchfork51 said:It's the completely insane fact that democrats refuse to even acknowledge that unchecked illegal immigration is a problem that needs to be worked on that drives people nuts.
Sure, disagreement over how to solve it is one thing.
But pretending there is no problem at all, fighting against enforcing the current laws, and calling everyone else racist is the most retarded possible angle ever.
And it's going to lose them another election.
The jobs and culture and all that shit? That is what is re-fucking-tarded. Getting hysterical every time an "illegal" rapes or murders or steals? Dumb. As if we don't have those issues in ready abundance in a capitalist and pluralistic society, and as if immigration is contributing to it in some material way.
One exception to the foregoing, of course, is all those secret federal agencies out there handing out free cash and healthcare and other cool bennies and shit to illegals AND NATIVES WHO HAVE DROPPED OUT OF THE WORKFORCElined up a mile down the road. That bothers me a lot. Our own veterans aren't taken care of so well damnit!
Jesus. I wonder if in the history of the world there has ever been an empire so economically and geo-politically successful that was at the same time as full of stupid people as is the United States. Social media has been great for that. I've been able to confirm prior suspicions of how stupid many of the people I've known most of my life really are.
Sad. Just really sad.it'sitsaeffects; it cost you a lot of money, unless, you're some kind of brilliant, pretend tax attorney.
We have record low labor force participation rates in this country for thems with low skillz and low edumacation.
There are many causes for this besides high levels of law care professionals coming to America - e.g., automation, manufacturing going overseas, welfare state encouraging idle poverty, etc - BUT there is plenty of evidence which suggests that high levels of low skilled immigration has driven down wages in construction, food processing (meat packing is good example), hospitality, etc. Yes, we get the economic benefit of lower prices in these sectors of the economy, but it's not like it was back in the day's of Bill the Butcher when the Irish Hordes were taking the Native's jerbs. Back then a man had to work or starve. Now when he drops out of the labor force, you as a tax payer pick up the tab. Just saying...
Second, planning for losers. That's how this country was built.
NOT!
Sad it's come to this. Sad that the losers in a competitive free market are driving policy. Really sad, actually. I actually remember when the winners wrote the rules of the gayme.
Populism. You will all rue the day.
For the first 150 years give or take, there weren't no such thing as wealth transfer payments. HTH.
IOW, for the first 150 years, losers lost ... completely ... and winners won.
That's the system I'm going with when I assume power.
It effects culture! We lose our edge when we go Euro-soft by protecting our least abled. Whatever some federal bureaucrat did on imports a bazillion years ago doesn't mean diddly. It didn't stop us from importing Chineze to build the RR did it? No.
Aspire to be a Spartan man. Thinking like an Athenean is not manly. It's just not manly.
There very much was "planning" to try and help the poor white guy earlier in the history of our great republic. The Republic Party was founded on 2 principles: (1) tariffs to help grow domestic industry - i.e., mor factory jerbs - and (2) keeping cheap (i.e., free) labor out of the territories. This was known as the "Free Soil" movement.
But still ...
Free Soil ... never heard of it. Free anything is unAmerican. Work for it I say.
Bottom line, fuck 'em if they can't get it together. If they won't work or can't, take 'em off the dole and maybe they'll immigrate somewheres else.
I don't really care what becomes of them. At. All.
I can understand the 1900s as much as I need to on its own merits.
Now let's go.
"Mas se perdio em Cuba." A saying that is analogous to our "It could be worse"; whatever it is that occurred, "more was lost in "Cuba."
At that time, a lot of the people in Cuba maintained dual citizenship with Spain. Much of my family did b4 the revolution. Gramps was from Las Islas Canaria; Abuela from Barcelona. Cuba was Spain's favorite colony; so we didn't really care and, as history would show, we just might have been better off with the Spaniards. What did shaking loose get us? -
How long do you think ASU spent translating my poast?YellowSnow said:
Now we're getting somewhere, Creep. This is a fascinating counter factual- i.e., how might Cuber have turned if Los Yankuis had not brought libertad? My guess: Franco would have not allowed Ruskie missiles and Bicardi would still be making rum there.creepycoug said:
My people were the Spaniards.YellowSnow said:
Remember the Maine, Ricky? 1800's. That's when a bunch of honkeys freed your peoples from Spaniard tyranny.creepycoug said:
Nope. Not chintrested. Ancient history, sure. Chintresting. How a bunch of white doods were managing a frontier nation? No tanks. Unchintresting.YellowSnow said:
You can't understand the 1900s w/o understanding the 1800s. Sorry but that's the way it is.creepycoug said:
Something from the 20th century preeze? We were still dragging our knuckles in the 1800s. Nothing any politician from that time is at all chintresting to me.YellowSnow said:
Homestead Act of 1862. Look it up. Giving away free land was very American. I rest my case.creepycoug said:
Yes, 1813. But there weren't that many of them, and I'm guessing, just guessing, there wasn't a receiving telegram station in Texarcana!YellowSnow said:
Actually only took a spit sec to get the message through by telegraph, but still....creepycoug said:
My brother, we could barely get a message from Dubuque to Texarcana in less than a month before 1913. Nobody planned shit, at least not very well, and there was a lot less to plan. And still, doing so didn't make it right. And, still, tariffs are one thing - protecting losers who want to lose is an entirely different animal.YellowSnow said:
Creep, I respeck your rightful place as a philosopher king, but sometimes I wonder if we should revoke your membership in the higher level history discussion bored. When you say this country wasn't built on "planning" that's just wrong, wrong, wrong. How do you think federal guvmint paid the bills prior to 1913?creepycoug said:
Look. Laff all you want. Lives are being effected, oK???????? Axe Sledog. He has that shit dialed in.YellowSnow said:
Jesus - I have a shitty, pretend sales jerb, Senior Ricardo. I don't have tim to do both and then proof read my poasts here at HH.creepycoug said:
First of all, Engrish preeze in any thread about immigration and US "culture". You're welcome.YellowSnow said:
Creep, obviously like many us here, you and your spawn are winners from both liberal immigration (legal and otherwise) and the globalized economy. But you are not immune fromcreepycoug said:
I'd say the only real problem on which it is worth basing an election is that of safety ... are extremists using our border countries to gain entry, etc.? That is a concern, but then again, we're growing them now and they're already here. But still, less is certainly moar in that context. Sure, deal with MS13 or whatever the fuck it's called. No sane person would dispute that as a legitimate national interest issue.Pitchfork51 said:It's the completely insane fact that democrats refuse to even acknowledge that unchecked illegal immigration is a problem that needs to be worked on that drives people nuts.
Sure, disagreement over how to solve it is one thing.
But pretending there is no problem at all, fighting against enforcing the current laws, and calling everyone else racist is the most retarded possible angle ever.
And it's going to lose them another election.
The jobs and culture and all that shit? That is what is re-fucking-tarded. Getting hysterical every time an "illegal" rapes or murders or steals? Dumb. As if we don't have those issues in ready abundance in a capitalist and pluralistic society, and as if immigration is contributing to it in some material way.
One exception to the foregoing, of course, is all those secret federal agencies out there handing out free cash and healthcare and other cool bennies and shit to illegals AND NATIVES WHO HAVE DROPPED OUT OF THE WORKFORCElined up a mile down the road. That bothers me a lot. Our own veterans aren't taken care of so well damnit!
Jesus. I wonder if in the history of the world there has ever been an empire so economically and geo-politically successful that was at the same time as full of stupid people as is the United States. Social media has been great for that. I've been able to confirm prior suspicions of how stupid many of the people I've known most of my life really are.
Sad. Just really sad.it'sitsaeffects; it cost you a lot of money, unless, you're some kind of brilliant, pretend tax attorney.
We have record low labor force participation rates in this country for thems with low skillz and low edumacation.
There are many causes for this besides high levels of law care professionals coming to America - e.g., automation, manufacturing going overseas, welfare state encouraging idle poverty, etc - BUT there is plenty of evidence which suggests that high levels of low skilled immigration has driven down wages in construction, food processing (meat packing is good example), hospitality, etc. Yes, we get the economic benefit of lower prices in these sectors of the economy, but it's not like it was back in the day's of Bill the Butcher when the Irish Hordes were taking the Native's jerbs. Back then a man had to work or starve. Now when he drops out of the labor force, you as a tax payer pick up the tab. Just saying...
Second, planning for losers. That's how this country was built.
NOT!
Sad it's come to this. Sad that the losers in a competitive free market are driving policy. Really sad, actually. I actually remember when the winners wrote the rules of the gayme.
Populism. You will all rue the day.
For the first 150 years give or take, there weren't no such thing as wealth transfer payments. HTH.
IOW, for the first 150 years, losers lost ... completely ... and winners won.
That's the system I'm going with when I assume power.
It effects culture! We lose our edge when we go Euro-soft by protecting our least abled. Whatever some federal bureaucrat did on imports a bazillion years ago doesn't mean diddly. It didn't stop us from importing Chineze to build the RR did it? No.
Aspire to be a Spartan man. Thinking like an Athenean is not manly. It's just not manly.
There very much was "planning" to try and help the poor white guy earlier in the history of our great republic. The Republic Party was founded on 2 principles: (1) tariffs to help grow domestic industry - i.e., mor factory jerbs - and (2) keeping cheap (i.e., free) labor out of the territories. This was known as the "Free Soil" movement.
But still ...
Free Soil ... never heard of it. Free anything is unAmerican. Work for it I say.
Bottom line, fuck 'em if they can't get it together. If they won't work or can't, take 'em off the dole and maybe they'll immigrate somewheres else.
I don't really care what becomes of them. At. All.
I can understand the 1900s as much as I need to on its own merits.
Now let's go.
"Mas se perdio em Cuba." A saying that is analogous to our "It could be worse"; whatever it is that occurred, "more was lost in "Cuba."
At that time, a lot of the people in Cuba maintained dual citizenship with Spain. Much of my family did b4 the revolution. Gramps was from Las Islas Canaria; Abuela from Barcelona. Cuba was Spain's favorite colony; so we didn't really care and, as history would show, we just might have been better off with the Spaniards. What did shaking loose get us?
Seems like it may be yet another attempt to be like Race & demonstrate he's down with the Hispaneeze.
Be your own man for Pete's sake. Be manly. Let Race do Race. You do you.
Sad, really. Just sad. -
My translations are strictly to show that I'm down with all hot, 100% puro de Spaniard chicks.creepycoug said:
How long do you think ASU spent translating my poast?YellowSnow said:
Now we're getting somewhere, Creep. This is a fascinating counter factual- i.e., how might Cuber have turned if Los Yankuis had not brought libertad? My guess: Franco would have not allowed Ruskie missiles and Bicardi would still be making rum there.creepycoug said:
My people were the Spaniards.YellowSnow said:
Remember the Maine, Ricky? 1800's. That's when a bunch of honkeys freed your peoples from Spaniard tyranny.creepycoug said:
Nope. Not chintrested. Ancient history, sure. Chintresting. How a bunch of white doods were managing a frontier nation? No tanks. Unchintresting.YellowSnow said:
You can't understand the 1900s w/o understanding the 1800s. Sorry but that's the way it is.creepycoug said:
Something from the 20th century preeze? We were still dragging our knuckles in the 1800s. Nothing any politician from that time is at all chintresting to me.YellowSnow said:
Homestead Act of 1862. Look it up. Giving away free land was very American. I rest my case.creepycoug said:
Yes, 1813. But there weren't that many of them, and I'm guessing, just guessing, there wasn't a receiving telegram station in Texarcana!YellowSnow said:
Actually only took a spit sec to get the message through by telegraph, but still....creepycoug said:
My brother, we could barely get a message from Dubuque to Texarcana in less than a month before 1913. Nobody planned shit, at least not very well, and there was a lot less to plan. And still, doing so didn't make it right. And, still, tariffs are one thing - protecting losers who want to lose is an entirely different animal.YellowSnow said:
Creep, I respeck your rightful place as a philosopher king, but sometimes I wonder if we should revoke your membership in the higher level history discussion bored. When you say this country wasn't built on "planning" that's just wrong, wrong, wrong. How do you think federal guvmint paid the bills prior to 1913?creepycoug said:
Look. Laff all you want. Lives are being effected, oK???????? Axe Sledog. He has that shit dialed in.YellowSnow said:
Jesus - I have a shitty, pretend sales jerb, Senior Ricardo. I don't have tim to do both and then proof read my poasts here at HH.creepycoug said:
First of all, Engrish preeze in any thread about immigration and US "culture". You're welcome.YellowSnow said:
Creep, obviously like many us here, you and your spawn are winners from both liberal immigration (legal and otherwise) and the globalized economy. But you are not immune fromcreepycoug said:
I'd say the only real problem on which it is worth basing an election is that of safety ... are extremists using our border countries to gain entry, etc.? That is a concern, but then again, we're growing them now and they're already here. But still, less is certainly moar in that context. Sure, deal with MS13 or whatever the fuck it's called. No sane person would dispute that as a legitimate national interest issue.Pitchfork51 said:It's the completely insane fact that democrats refuse to even acknowledge that unchecked illegal immigration is a problem that needs to be worked on that drives people nuts.
Sure, disagreement over how to solve it is one thing.
But pretending there is no problem at all, fighting against enforcing the current laws, and calling everyone else racist is the most retarded possible angle ever.
And it's going to lose them another election.
The jobs and culture and all that shit? That is what is re-fucking-tarded. Getting hysterical every time an "illegal" rapes or murders or steals? Dumb. As if we don't have those issues in ready abundance in a capitalist and pluralistic society, and as if immigration is contributing to it in some material way.
One exception to the foregoing, of course, is all those secret federal agencies out there handing out free cash and healthcare and other cool bennies and shit to illegals AND NATIVES WHO HAVE DROPPED OUT OF THE WORKFORCElined up a mile down the road. That bothers me a lot. Our own veterans aren't taken care of so well damnit!
Jesus. I wonder if in the history of the world there has ever been an empire so economically and geo-politically successful that was at the same time as full of stupid people as is the United States. Social media has been great for that. I've been able to confirm prior suspicions of how stupid many of the people I've known most of my life really are.
Sad. Just really sad.it'sitsaeffects; it cost you a lot of money, unless, you're some kind of brilliant, pretend tax attorney.
We have record low labor force participation rates in this country for thems with low skillz and low edumacation.
There are many causes for this besides high levels of law care professionals coming to America - e.g., automation, manufacturing going overseas, welfare state encouraging idle poverty, etc - BUT there is plenty of evidence which suggests that high levels of low skilled immigration has driven down wages in construction, food processing (meat packing is good example), hospitality, etc. Yes, we get the economic benefit of lower prices in these sectors of the economy, but it's not like it was back in the day's of Bill the Butcher when the Irish Hordes were taking the Native's jerbs. Back then a man had to work or starve. Now when he drops out of the labor force, you as a tax payer pick up the tab. Just saying...
Second, planning for losers. That's how this country was built.
NOT!
Sad it's come to this. Sad that the losers in a competitive free market are driving policy. Really sad, actually. I actually remember when the winners wrote the rules of the gayme.
Populism. You will all rue the day.
For the first 150 years give or take, there weren't no such thing as wealth transfer payments. HTH.
IOW, for the first 150 years, losers lost ... completely ... and winners won.
That's the system I'm going with when I assume power.
It effects culture! We lose our edge when we go Euro-soft by protecting our least abled. Whatever some federal bureaucrat did on imports a bazillion years ago doesn't mean diddly. It didn't stop us from importing Chineze to build the RR did it? No.
Aspire to be a Spartan man. Thinking like an Athenean is not manly. It's just not manly.
There very much was "planning" to try and help the poor white guy earlier in the history of our great republic. The Republic Party was founded on 2 principles: (1) tariffs to help grow domestic industry - i.e., mor factory jerbs - and (2) keeping cheap (i.e., free) labor out of the territories. This was known as the "Free Soil" movement.
But still ...
Free Soil ... never heard of it. Free anything is unAmerican. Work for it I say.
Bottom line, fuck 'em if they can't get it together. If they won't work or can't, take 'em off the dole and maybe they'll immigrate somewheres else.
I don't really care what becomes of them. At. All.
I can understand the 1900s as much as I need to on its own merits.
Now let's go.
"Mas se perdio em Cuba." A saying that is analogous to our "It could be worse"; whatever it is that occurred, "more was lost in "Cuba."
At that time, a lot of the people in Cuba maintained dual citizenship with Spain. Much of my family did b4 the revolution. Gramps was from Las Islas Canaria; Abuela from Barcelona. Cuba was Spain's favorite colony; so we didn't really care and, as history would show, we just might have been better off with the Spaniards. What did shaking loose get us?
Seems like it may be yet another attempt to be like Race & demonstrate he's down with the Hispaneeze.
Be your own man for Pete's sake. Be manly. Let Race do Race. You do you.
Sad, really. Just sad. -
You picked Northern European. You made yoar choice. You are with them!YellowSnow said:
My translations are strictly to show that I'm down with all hot, 100% puro de Spaniard chicks.creepycoug said:
How long do you think ASU spent translating my poast?YellowSnow said:
Now we're getting somewhere, Creep. This is a fascinating counter factual- i.e., how might Cuber have turned if Los Yankuis had not brought libertad? My guess: Franco would have not allowed Ruskie missiles and Bicardi would still be making rum there.creepycoug said:
My people were the Spaniards.YellowSnow said:
Remember the Maine, Ricky? 1800's. That's when a bunch of honkeys freed your peoples from Spaniard tyranny.creepycoug said:
Nope. Not chintrested. Ancient history, sure. Chintresting. How a bunch of white doods were managing a frontier nation? No tanks. Unchintresting.YellowSnow said:
You can't understand the 1900s w/o understanding the 1800s. Sorry but that's the way it is.creepycoug said:
Something from the 20th century preeze? We were still dragging our knuckles in the 1800s. Nothing any politician from that time is at all chintresting to me.YellowSnow said:
Homestead Act of 1862. Look it up. Giving away free land was very American. I rest my case.creepycoug said:
Yes, 1813. But there weren't that many of them, and I'm guessing, just guessing, there wasn't a receiving telegram station in Texarcana!YellowSnow said:
Actually only took a spit sec to get the message through by telegraph, but still....creepycoug said:
My brother, we could barely get a message from Dubuque to Texarcana in less than a month before 1913. Nobody planned shit, at least not very well, and there was a lot less to plan. And still, doing so didn't make it right. And, still, tariffs are one thing - protecting losers who want to lose is an entirely different animal.YellowSnow said:
Creep, I respeck your rightful place as a philosopher king, but sometimes I wonder if we should revoke your membership in the higher level history discussion bored. When you say this country wasn't built on "planning" that's just wrong, wrong, wrong. How do you think federal guvmint paid the bills prior to 1913?creepycoug said:
Look. Laff all you want. Lives are being effected, oK???????? Axe Sledog. He has that shit dialed in.YellowSnow said:
Jesus - I have a shitty, pretend sales jerb, Senior Ricardo. I don't have tim to do both and then proof read my poasts here at HH.creepycoug said:
First of all, Engrish preeze in any thread about immigration and US "culture". You're welcome.YellowSnow said:
Creep, obviously like many us here, you and your spawn are winners from both liberal immigration (legal and otherwise) and the globalized economy. But you are not immune fromcreepycoug said:
I'd say the only real problem on which it is worth basing an election is that of safety ... are extremists using our border countries to gain entry, etc.? That is a concern, but then again, we're growing them now and they're already here. But still, less is certainly moar in that context. Sure, deal with MS13 or whatever the fuck it's called. No sane person would dispute that as a legitimate national interest issue.Pitchfork51 said:It's the completely insane fact that democrats refuse to even acknowledge that unchecked illegal immigration is a problem that needs to be worked on that drives people nuts.
Sure, disagreement over how to solve it is one thing.
But pretending there is no problem at all, fighting against enforcing the current laws, and calling everyone else racist is the most retarded possible angle ever.
And it's going to lose them another election.
The jobs and culture and all that shit? That is what is re-fucking-tarded. Getting hysterical every time an "illegal" rapes or murders or steals? Dumb. As if we don't have those issues in ready abundance in a capitalist and pluralistic society, and as if immigration is contributing to it in some material way.
One exception to the foregoing, of course, is all those secret federal agencies out there handing out free cash and healthcare and other cool bennies and shit to illegals AND NATIVES WHO HAVE DROPPED OUT OF THE WORKFORCElined up a mile down the road. That bothers me a lot. Our own veterans aren't taken care of so well damnit!
Jesus. I wonder if in the history of the world there has ever been an empire so economically and geo-politically successful that was at the same time as full of stupid people as is the United States. Social media has been great for that. I've been able to confirm prior suspicions of how stupid many of the people I've known most of my life really are.
Sad. Just really sad.it'sitsaeffects; it cost you a lot of money, unless, you're some kind of brilliant, pretend tax attorney.
We have record low labor force participation rates in this country for thems with low skillz and low edumacation.
There are many causes for this besides high levels of law care professionals coming to America - e.g., automation, manufacturing going overseas, welfare state encouraging idle poverty, etc - BUT there is plenty of evidence which suggests that high levels of low skilled immigration has driven down wages in construction, food processing (meat packing is good example), hospitality, etc. Yes, we get the economic benefit of lower prices in these sectors of the economy, but it's not like it was back in the day's of Bill the Butcher when the Irish Hordes were taking the Native's jerbs. Back then a man had to work or starve. Now when he drops out of the labor force, you as a tax payer pick up the tab. Just saying...
Second, planning for losers. That's how this country was built.
NOT!
Sad it's come to this. Sad that the losers in a competitive free market are driving policy. Really sad, actually. I actually remember when the winners wrote the rules of the gayme.
Populism. You will all rue the day.
For the first 150 years give or take, there weren't no such thing as wealth transfer payments. HTH.
IOW, for the first 150 years, losers lost ... completely ... and winners won.
That's the system I'm going with when I assume power.
It effects culture! We lose our edge when we go Euro-soft by protecting our least abled. Whatever some federal bureaucrat did on imports a bazillion years ago doesn't mean diddly. It didn't stop us from importing Chineze to build the RR did it? No.
Aspire to be a Spartan man. Thinking like an Athenean is not manly. It's just not manly.
There very much was "planning" to try and help the poor white guy earlier in the history of our great republic. The Republic Party was founded on 2 principles: (1) tariffs to help grow domestic industry - i.e., mor factory jerbs - and (2) keeping cheap (i.e., free) labor out of the territories. This was known as the "Free Soil" movement.
But still ...
Free Soil ... never heard of it. Free anything is unAmerican. Work for it I say.
Bottom line, fuck 'em if they can't get it together. If they won't work or can't, take 'em off the dole and maybe they'll immigrate somewheres else.
I don't really care what becomes of them. At. All.
I can understand the 1900s as much as I need to on its own merits.
Now let's go.
"Mas se perdio em Cuba." A saying that is analogous to our "It could be worse"; whatever it is that occurred, "more was lost in "Cuba."
At that time, a lot of the people in Cuba maintained dual citizenship with Spain. Much of my family did b4 the revolution. Gramps was from Las Islas Canaria; Abuela from Barcelona. Cuba was Spain's favorite colony; so we didn't really care and, as history would show, we just might have been better off with the Spaniards. What did shaking loose get us?
Seems like it may be yet another attempt to be like Race & demonstrate he's down with the Hispaneeze.
Be your own man for Pete's sake. Be manly. Let Race do Race. You do you.
Sad, really. Just sad.
