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One of the better pieces from this week on immigration
YellowSnow
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Two problems: this isn't an Atlantic crowd; and the French actually have a culture to preserve that would of itself justify tighter control over immigration.YellowSnow said:
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America has a culture. It's about immigrants that actually become Americans and do great things. That hasn't been happening for some time.creepycoug said:
Two problems: this isn't an Atlantic crowd; and the French actually have a culture to preserve that would of itself justify tighter control over immigration.YellowSnow said:
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There you have it. What I said.Sledog said:
America has a culture. It's about immigrants that actually become Americans and do great things. That hasn't been happening for some time.creepycoug said:
Two problems: this isn't an Atlantic crowd; and the French actually have a culture to preserve that would of itself justify tighter control over immigration.YellowSnow said:
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Great piece.
Helps Trump IMO
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No, @creepycoug, a hot bed of Atlantic readers the Tug is not; it's too center-left and most of the articles are TL;DR. That said, as the "thinking man's libtard" here, I feel a moral obligation to shit poast pieces from it on occasion. It is a respected publication of high journalistic value.creepycoug said:
Two problems: this isn't an Atlantic crowd; and the French actually have a culture to preserve that would of itself justify tighter control over immigration.YellowSnow said:
You missed it.
You're right about the French in that they far more of an existential threat from immigration than we? do, and it's not even close. The Messicans down in East LA may waive Messican flags at the Rose Bowl when Messico is playing the US in futbol, but last I checked no 1st or 2nd generation Messican ever joined ISIS.
The takeaway here, of course, is that in spite of the (justified) revulsion at seeing kids separated at the border from parents (even if there are some fake ones), the majority of Americans don't trust the Democratic Party on immigration and view its position - which is basically no limits immigration, legal or illegal - as radical extremism.
A wise, old Prussian once (really, not pretend) said, "Politiks is the art of the possible" and I think that's apt here. It's all fine and well to think that there should be a free and unrestricted flow of labor to capital across national boundaries, BUT IT'S NEVER GOING TO BE POLITICALLY FEASIBLE. The working man will only take so much feeling like he's getting that shaft before he goes full "they took our jerbs" and revolts at the ballot box. The pols in this country shouldn't have let it get to that point. -
No we have immigrants who's allegiance is to their home country and who's money flows there. We have massive illegal immigration in the 10's of millions from the same geographical area. We have an invasion that still does not and will not identify as Americans. We used to call this scenario an invasion.creepycoug said:
There you have it. What I said.Sledog said:
America has a culture. It's about immigrants that actually become Americans and do great things. That hasn't been happening for some time.creepycoug said:
Two problems: this isn't an Atlantic crowd; and the French actually have a culture to preserve that would of itself justify tighter control over immigration.YellowSnow said:
You missed it. -
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No we have immigrants who's allegiance is to their home country and who's money flows there. We have massive illegal immigration in the 10's of millions from the same geographical area. We have an invasion that still does not and will not identify as Americans. We used to call this scenario an invasion.creepycoug said:
There you have it. What I said.Sledog said:
America has a culture. It's about immigrants that actually become Americans and do great things. That hasn't been happening for some time.creepycoug said:
Two problems: this isn't an Atlantic crowd; and the French actually have a culture to preserve that would of itself justify tighter control over immigration.YellowSnow said:
You missed it.
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No it's WFC.creepycoug said:
*whoseSledog said:
No we have immigrants who's allegiance is to their home country and who's money flows there. We have massive illegal immigration in the 10's of millions from the same geographical area. We have an invasion that still does not and will not identify as Americans. We used to call this scenario an invasion.creepycoug said:
There you have it. What I said.Sledog said:
America has a culture. It's about immigrants that actually become Americans and do great things. That hasn't been happening for some time.creepycoug said:
Two problems: this isn't an Atlantic crowd; and the French actually have a culture to preserve that would of itself justify tighter control over immigration.YellowSnow said:
You missed it.
this damn phone! -
You sound like a scared little girl.Sledog said:
No we have immigrants who's allegiance is to their home country and who's money flows there. We have massive illegal immigration in the 10's of millions from the same geographical area. We have an invasion that still does not and will not identify as Americans. We used to call this scenario an invasion.creepycoug said:
There you have it. What I said.Sledog said:
America has a culture. It's about immigrants that actually become Americans and do great things. That hasn't been happening for some time.creepycoug said:
Two problems: this isn't an Atlantic crowd; and the French actually have a culture to preserve that would of itself justify tighter control over immigration.YellowSnow said:
You missed it.
Grab one of your guns and feel better friend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE