Am I the only one who doesn't give two shits about Tosh being retained or not?

Passion · December 2013

Gladstone said:
For the first time in 12+ years, I have every confidence in whatever decision the head coach goes with.

I've never heard a recruit mention on national TV a boise state assistant coach's name during a commitment announcement. I've heard Tosh's name mentioned several times. Tosh Lupoi is a lights out recruiter. He and Petersen agreeing on which recruits to target, and then sending Tosh into the living room would be a deadly combination.

[Deleted User] · December 2013

RaceBannon said:
Looking at Cal and UW one can't help but wonder what the fuck Tosh has done

Tosh was under two crappy coaches though. I think under Petersen he could recruit really well and would improve as a coach.

With Petersen in the fold though I agree with most here regarding Tosh or Wilcox. If Petersen thinks he doesn't need them then I'm in WDWHA mode as I trust his evaluation unlike our previous three head coaches.

Haid_D_Salaami · December 2013

RaceBannon said:
Looking at Cal and UW one can't help but wonder what the fuck Tosh has done

Pretty much fucking this!

RoadDawg55 · December 2013

RaceBannon said:
Looking at Cal and UW one can't help but wonder what the fuck Tosh has done

Cal had decent defenses every year Tosh was there. He produced two first round draft picks in Cameron Jordan and Tyson Alualu. The DL was much better this year compared to last year. 36 sacks this year (T-11th in the country) compared compared to 27 last year. I saw Littleton, Shelton, and Kikaha all get much better from last season. He also coached up a walk on TE to be a serviceable player on the DL. Kikaha was coming off 2 torn ACL's and was a better player than he was before the injuries. Not to mention his recruiting. It's FS to pretend he is not a good recruiter.

You just hate on anything the doogs from doogman pump up. No DL coach is as good as they pretend Tosh is, but that doesn't mean he sucks. Tosh isn't a savior, he's a fucking DL coach, but I don't know what you expected out of him. The DL is much better than it was before him, and it should get better.

AtomicDawg · December 2013

RaceBannon said:
Looking at Cal and UW one can't help but wonder what the fuck Tosh has done

Sounds like race needs to see a championship from tosh.

RaceBannon · December 2013

So is it better or should it get better? Do I need to learn the difference? I hate on hype and bullshit which I have had my fill of for a decade.

I love results. Its the head coach

chrisvashon · December 2013

Petersen's staff is not elite (hard to keep top shelf guys at BSU). So he is going to add some new blood. Most coaches are under contract somewhere else, have loyalties to other coaches/programs, etc. So it is complicated getting them to defect to a new staff.

Compare this to Tosh. Well known to be one of the best recruiters in the country. Also widely regarded as a d coach (Sark is a mediocre coach, but he's not stupid. There is a reason Lupoi has an offer while cozzetto and kiesau are checking their 401ks).

Tosh is gift wrapped for Petersen. Under contract w/ a sizable buyout. From all accounts, he likes it here. Also has a reputation as a mercenary that he probably wants to downplay. Coach Pete should make this happen.

tracker · December 2013

When Sark was here I think many placed a great deal of emphasis on the assistants because we knew we had a HC that wasn't worth a damn. The assistants used to give us hope in kind of a hopeless situation.

If Tosh stays and he's a good match with Petersen, great.
If not, I'm trusting CP's judgment.

DugtheDoog · December 2013

I think it would be a bonehead move if he decides not to retain him and Tosh wants to stay. We'll probably never know either way but Tosh supposedly texted Roof and said he'll stay as long as he's wanted. I have faith in CP but am slightly concerned as to how the Boise staff can recruit against the big boys. But unlike with Sark, I'm willing to LIFPO.

RoadDawg55 · December 2013

RaceBannon said:
So is it better or should it get better? Do I need to learn the difference? I hate on hype and bullshit which I have had my fill of for a decade.

I love results. Its the head coach

It already is better. It's not at the level it ultimately needs to be, but there was improvement from year 1 with Tosh to year 2, and with the whole DL returning and some promising young players, it should get even better. I agree that the head coach is what ultimately matters.

Am I the only one who doesn't give two shits about Tosh being retained or not?

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