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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,741 Founders Club
    edited May 2018

    Well, there are some chinsere comments in this thread, even by OBK, our resident big meanie face.

    Not sure there's any point blaming anyone. Who knows how the subtle process of alienation and loneliness that leads from one bad decision to another is started and germinates, but for a lot of people, they wake up one day and they're hopeless and fucked up and it goes down from there. Actually there are people who know the subtle process, they just can't stop it in an efficient way for the legions of those affected.

    As for how to deal with what we have at a given time in the cycle, I think Regan/Bush I did manage to fuck one thing up with their shutting down funding for asylums and other institutions with the "they're better off in their communities and families who can take care of them" rationale. Fuck, when you think about it, that was a version of Hillary's village. Stoopid on both counts.

    We? need more institutions. These things aren't great money makers, because as it turns out it's fucking expensive to take care of a human being who can't fend for him/herself, and if you charge market rates for the true cost structure and value, it's too expensive for most people even if the institutions aren't trying to turn a profit.

    So, as much as it pains to me to say it, just like jails, we need more institutions, and of varying levels. We need the type for people who will never get better, the type for people who might if treated professionally, and half-way re-intros for people on the mend.

    That's my only idea. If you guys shit on it, fuck you, and come up with a better one. I'm all ears. I work near Pioneer Square and I see people taking a shit in the alleys at least once a week on my drive in. It's fucking terrible and has become exponentially worse over the least 3 years.

    I've got a solution. Ever seen the movie The Purge? First year of purging would clean up downtown real fucking quick. I didn't say my solution was neat and tidy, but it is a solution. Low cost and permanent as well.


  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,858 Founders Club

    Well, there are some chinsere comments in this thread, even by OBK, our resident big meanie face.

    Not sure there's any point blaming anyone. Who knows how the subtle process of alienation and loneliness that leads from one bad decision to another is started and germinates, but for a lot of people, they wake up one day and they're hopeless and fucked up and it goes down from there. Actually there are people who know the subtle process, they just can't stop it in an efficient way for the legions of those affected.

    As for how to deal with what we have at a given time in the cycle, I think Regan/Bush I did manage to fuck one thing up with their shutting down funding for asylums and other institutions with the "they're better off in their communities and families who can take care of them" rationale. Fuck, when you think about it, that was a version of Hillary's village. Stoopid on both counts.

    We? need more institutions. These things aren't great money makers, because as it turns out it's fucking expensive to take care of a human being who can't fend for him/herself, and if you charge market rates for the true cost structure and value, it's too expensive for most people even if the institutions aren't trying to turn a profit.

    So, as much as it pains to me to say it, just like jails, we need more institutions, and of varying levels. We need the type for people who will never get better, the type for people who might if treated professionally, and half-way re-intros for people on the mend.

    That's my only idea. If you guys shit on it, fuck you, and come up with a better one. I'm all ears. I work near Pioneer Square and I see people taking a shit in the alleys at least once a week on my drive in. It's fucking terrible and has become exponentially worse over the least 3 years.

    Agree on mor nut houses. It's a sad deal, but some percentage of the population just isn't going to be able to hack it and they need a safe place to stay.


  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,411
    Swaye said:

    Well, there are some chinsere comments in this thread, even by OBK, our resident big meanie face.

    Not sure there's any point blaming anyone. Who knows how the subtle process of alienation and loneliness that leads from one bad decision to another is started and germinates, but for a lot of people, they wake up one day and they're hopeless and fucked up and it goes down from there. Actually there are people who know the subtle process, they just can't stop it in an efficient way for the legions of those affected.

    As for how to deal with what we have at a given time in the cycle, I think Regan/Bush I did manage to fuck one thing up with their shutting down funding for asylums and other institutions with the "they're better off in their communities and families who can take care of them" rationale. Fuck, when you think about it, that was a version of Hillary's village. Stoopid on both counts.

    We? need more institutions. These things aren't great money makers, because as it turns out it's fucking expensive to take care of a human being who can't fend for him/herself, and if you charge market rates for the true cost structure and value, it's too expensive for most people even if the institutions aren't trying to turn a profit.

    So, as much as it pains to me to say it, just like jails, we need more institutions, and of varying levels. We need the type for people who will never get better, the type for people who might if treated professionally, and half-way re-intros for people on the mend.

    That's my only idea. If you guys shit on it, fuck you, and come up with a better one. I'm all ears. I work near Pioneer Square and I see people taking a shit in the alleys at least once a week on my drive in. It's fucking terrible and has become exponentially worse over the least 3 years.

    I've got a solution. Ever seen the movie The Purge? First year of purging would clean up downtown real fucking quick. I didn't say my solution was neat and tidy, but it is a solution. Low cost and permanent as well.


    Fuck. If only. If there were such a thing, believe me, I have a list, and none of them are homeless. Hoh Lee Fuck would that be fun.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    Well, there are some chinsere comments in this thread, even by OBK, our resident big meanie face.

    Not sure there's any point blaming anyone. Who knows how the subtle process of alienation and loneliness that leads from one bad decision to another is started and germinates, but for a lot of people, they wake up one day and they're hopeless and fucked up and it goes down from there. Actually there are people who know the subtle process, they just can't stop it in an efficient way for the legions of those affected.

    As for how to deal with what we have at a given time in the cycle, I think Regan/Bush I did manage to fuck one thing up with their shutting down funding for asylums and other institutions with the "they're better off in their communities and families who can take care of them" rationale. Fuck, when you think about it, that was a version of Hillary's village. Stoopid on both counts.

    We? need more institutions. These things aren't great money makers, because as it turns out it's fucking expensive to take care of a human being who can't fend for him/herself, and if you charge market rates for the true cost structure and value, it's too expensive for most people even if the institutions aren't trying to turn a profit.

    So, as much as it pains to me to say it, just like jails, we need more institutions, and of varying levels. We need the type for people who will never get better, the type for people who might if treated professionally, and half-way re-intros for people on the mend.

    That's my only idea. If you guys shit on it, fuck you, and come up with a better one. I'm all ears. I work near Pioneer Square and I see people taking a shit in the alleys at least once a week on my drive in. It's fucking terrible and has become exponentially worse over the least 3 years.

    Agreed with the chinstitution shutdown as a root cause, and the recent devolvement of the situation. Honest question, what do you think changed between the 1980s and early 2010s?
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,778
    dflea said:

    Some problems don't have a solution.

    Some problems have final solutions.
  • Alexis
    Alexis Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,455 Founders Club
    Anyone ever driven through the state of Nevada? You can go for an hour without seeing a town or any other human beings. Would seem, if the moar institutions idea ever really ramps up, that's a perfect place to move them all.

    And if they get low on food, give them all AR 15s. You can't throw a dead cat without hitting a 20 pound rabbit out there. Make them hunt for their food. And for the ones who can't be trusted with a rifle, well, kind of win win.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,813 Standard Supporter
    edited May 2018
    PurpleJ said:

    dflea said:

    Some problems don't have a solution.

    Some problems have final solutions.

    Bruh- careful tiptoeing up to the call for genocide line. Stalin don't play that shit.

  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,778

    PurpleJ said:

    dflea said:

    Some problems don't have a solution.

    Some problems have final solutions.

    Bruh- careful tiptoeing up to the call for genocide line. Stalin don't play that shit.

    I never said anything about genocide.