Greatest program to never have won a post WWII Natty?

YellowSnow said:

creepycoug said:

YellowSnow said:

creepycoug said:

YellowSnow said:

creepycoug said:

Man. Oregon vs. Washington in a nattie fight. 1/2 vs. 0.

That's some pillow fight.

#winky

#stickwithrowboat

Come on row boat!!!!!

You do realize that I'M Dezi in that gif. Ethel's the one flapping her Fred pleaser.

Yeah, but they don't have a gif of someone telling Ricky to cool down the hot Latin blood so this has to do.

Well, you tried.

Of course, what merely "trying" gets you in UW rowboats is:

shame
banishment
a year of white T shirts w/ no school colors in every competition until you earn the right to wear purple again.

Thanks again for "trying".

Our colors were blue and white...not a bit of purple on the jersey whatsoever. The blades were solid white which is one of the most bad ass things about Worshington row boating.

Well, now, when they lose the HOCR, they have to wear all white, white blades, white shirts, not a stitch of purple and not a W anywhere near the boat unless it's painted on the boat.

I think they call it, "rowing in the season of shame".

Per the all-time Sagarin ratings (through 2012) the 1991 Washington team was the 6th best of all-time (1995 Nebraska is tops). 2001 Miami comes in at 8. IIRC 87 and 93 were the only other two Miami squads to crack the list. 1991 Miami was a good team but not one of the greatest ever, like 1991 Washington.

creepycoug said:

RaceBannon said:

Perhaps the worst post in the history of the forum

Due tell.

*dew

dflea said:

creepycoug said:

Mad_Son said:

Per the all-time Sagarin ratings (through 2012) the 1991 Washington team was the 6th best of all-time (1995 Nebraska is tops). 2001 Miami comes in at 8. IIRC 87 and 93 were the only other two Miami squads to crack the list. 1991 Miami was a good team but not one of the greatest ever, like 1991 Washington.

So a three loss Miami team that was never ranked above #3 and lost its bowl game cracked a list that left off an undefeated Miami team that beat #1, #9 and #10 during the season and absolutely crushed Nebraska and their standing ovation fans and had one of the stingiest defenses in cfb up to that time?

Uh, ok.

1991 is not the greatest Miami team ever. You'll get no argument from me on that point. But they were more than a good team. The talent was undeniable, based on play after cfb. The defense alone was an all-timer. They shut everyone down. And any list that has 2001 Miami at #8 is ridiculous. Please. That Miami team beats 91 Washington and 95 Nebraska, and I don't think it would be that hard for them.

Regarding the 54-0 / 36-9 comparison ... somehow Huskies like to drop the whole home-field advantage line when that variable comes up, but whatever, I'll let it slide.

What I love about that game was how it stood in such sharp contrast to all the "we have class" talk about Don James at the time, and he goes on to lay 54 points on a team at home at a time when 54 points actually was a ridiculous score (nobody would blink today). So at what point after Arizona clearly stated they didn't come to play was he going to get classy?

Classy Don James would never ask his scrubs not to beat the living shit out of a team that couldn't stop them. Doing that is pussy, not classy.

He probably would have had to leave the starters in against the Canes to beat their asses that year, though. It would have still been classy, though.

Mine was tongue in cheek comment, as you know. My point was, every time Miami ever ran up a big score on someone, people in the great white north who (and you know who you are) were not comfortable with ubber inner city Miami would bitch and moan about every fucking thing they did. It was a problem that found its way to the people calling the games, like Twatburger and Mike Francesa.

Jimmy invented the "my job isn't to help you save face" response, but everyone hated him for it back in the day. Nobody piled on Don, save for perhaps Bill Walsh, who was douche canoe himself so whatever.

I still think that gayme would've been more competitive than the 91 Washington crowd cares to think. Washington's offense was terribly overlooked because of the D, a point I regularly concede, but they were not going to run up big numbers on that Miami defense. If you re-watch the Orange Bowl, Nebraska, straight up and no shit, looked like a high school team trying to move the ball on them. When that defense was focused, they were lights out. To this day, among the very fastest and meanest trio of LBs I've ever seen play a cfb game. I would take two thirds of that group even over Miami's 01 group, but I would keep Vilma from 01 ... dude was nasty af.

RaceBannon said:

the biggest shock in 94 was how physical UW was compared to Miami and Miami still had guys like Warren Sapp. UW had declined thanks to Lambo and should have been blown out in the first half but weren't and then kicked the shit out of the Canes

That doesn't mean the 91 team would have done the same but we? like to think so

The 2000 and 2001 games saw the Canes more physical in both contests even though it was a split

All I really have to say about the post-1991 pre-Butch era is "fuck Dennis!".

There was talent in spots. It's always flashy to say Warren Sapp and Ray Lewis were on the same team, but the truth is Miami was in decline at that point. Dennis, as we all know, does well when he gets some place, and at the Miami gig, he inherited a juggernaut and cranked up the offense. What's not to like? But when your star defensive tackle tells your HC he's not going to quit smoking pot, you've got discipline problems.

The other thing that was different in 91 vs. 94 was that the 91 O line kept Gino pretty clean. A much more talented Frank Costa was on his back after every play because their O line play was dead.

All of that softening speaks to the Head Corch. You're right: there was no lineman on the UW team that should have been able to handle Warren Sapp. The entire NFL couldn't do it once he was playing for $$. But as we all know, by the 4th quarter, he was breathing heavy.

That's all on Dennis, and for a lot of Canes, it's his legacy.

One other thought: that 94 UW team was very fucking talented, and w/o really thinking about too much, I think there was more NFL success that came out of that group than came out of the 91 group. There was nobody as dominant as Lincoln or Empterman, but across the board there were a lot of long NFL careers on the 94 roster. How they went 7-4 I will never know. Actually, I guess I do.