Mataio Soli, 2019 4* DE, Douglasville (Douglas County HS), GA (Offered)

FKA_Mousecop said:

Dennis_DeYoung said:

If you actually watch the games here's what you'll find: Benning flashes now and again, but mostly has been unproductive STAT wise. However, as we know, stats are for fucktards.

Benning hasn't done much in terms of pass rush numbers and I'm close to giving up on him ever doing anything in that category (though, supposedly he had a great spring - who knows?) - however, the one thing he does that Bowman DOES NOT do is hold the fucking edge. When we are playing downs 1-2, Bowman gets washed out vs. edge runs constantly. He also gambles a lot and is in places he's not supposed to be. A lot of his stats come from shooting gaps, etc, and while that can be good - he often isn't where he's supposed to be.

On pass rush downs, I'd rather have Bowman in. He gambles a lot and against a QB that can move, that will hurt us, but in general he is way more aggressive and he has really quick feet.

But, if you want our defense to function properly on downs 1-2, Benning is way better for that because he is stout against the run. He's not a playmaker against the run, but Stanford and PSU just ran right at Bowman and BBK literally any time they were on the field. Because they just can't shed blocks against big, athletic guys.

I don't hate Bowman, and I agree that his emergence is fun. I started to buy the hype until we played PSU. In that game Bowman got destroyed and Benning held up, even though he didn't make plays.

Now, this year, maybe Benning (who has two years to go) might learn how to start making more plays and have a JoJo Mathis-esque career. I sure hope so because JoJo didn't do squat as a JR either. I'm not sure what's going to happen, but that's how I feel.

My obsession is not with TBS it's with TALENT. I don't care if they are highly rated guys - I want guys who have rare physical characteristics, who are big, strong, fast and quick.

I'm intrigued by Josiah Bronson because he's got physical talent. I liked Evan Hudson for the same reason. Because those guys had the physical characteristics to hold up against USC/PSU, etc.

However, Myles Bryant and (to a lesser extent) Ryan Bowman aren't getting it for me. I'm in the middle on Jared Pulu - I'm curious to see how he'll perform.

Bowman kind of reminds me of Josh Shirley, TBH.

Tevis Bartlett still held the edge better than Benning

Baseman said:

FKA_Mousecop said:

Dennis_DeYoung said:

If you actually watch the games here's what you'll find: Benning flashes now and again, but mostly has been unproductive STAT wise. However, as we know, stats are for fucktards.

Benning hasn't done much in terms of pass rush numbers and I'm close to giving up on him ever doing anything in that category (though, supposedly he had a great spring - who knows?) - however, the one thing he does that Bowman DOES NOT do is hold the fucking edge. When we are playing downs 1-2, Bowman gets washed out vs. edge runs constantly. He also gambles a lot and is in places he's not supposed to be. A lot of his stats come from shooting gaps, etc, and while that can be good - he often isn't where he's supposed to be.

On pass rush downs, I'd rather have Bowman in. He gambles a lot and against a QB that can move, that will hurt us, but in general he is way more aggressive and he has really quick feet.

But, if you want our defense to function properly on downs 1-2, Benning is way better for that because he is stout against the run. He's not a playmaker against the run, but Stanford and PSU just ran right at Bowman and BBK literally any time they were on the field. Because they just can't shed blocks against big, athletic guys.

I don't hate Bowman, and I agree that his emergence is fun. I started to buy the hype until we played PSU. In that game Bowman got destroyed and Benning held up, even though he didn't make plays.

Now, this year, maybe Benning (who has two years to go) might learn how to start making more plays and have a JoJo Mathis-esque career. I sure hope so because JoJo didn't do squat as a JR either. I'm not sure what's going to happen, but that's how I feel.

My obsession is not with TBS it's with TALENT. I don't care if they are highly rated guys - I want guys who have rare physical characteristics, who are big, strong, fast and quick.

I'm intrigued by Josiah Bronson because he's got physical talent. I liked Evan Hudson for the same reason. Because those guys had the physical characteristics to hold up against USC/PSU, etc.

However, Myles Bryant and (to a lesser extent) Ryan Bowman aren't getting it for me. I'm in the middle on Jared Pulu - I'm curious to see how he'll perform.

Bowman kind of reminds me of Josh Shirley, TBH.

Tevis Bartlett still held the edge better than Benning

Disagree. So far Potatoe has survived on his physicality and discipline keeping contain. The next frontier, if he’s capable is reacting and using his tools to blow some shit up.

Wooching did a competent job of keeping contain but failed miserably when it came to making plays.

Bowman, as Dennis points out, brings pressure against average squads. Upper division opponents, SC and top end national programs exploit his aggressiveness and physical limitations with power counters.

A strong inside LB core can compensate. Little BBK, not so much.

Baseman said:

FKA_Mousecop said:

Dennis_DeYoung said:

If you actually watch the games here's what you'll find: Benning flashes now and again, but mostly has been unproductive STAT wise. However, as we know, stats are for fucktards.

Benning hasn't done much in terms of pass rush numbers and I'm close to giving up on him ever doing anything in that category (though, supposedly he had a great spring - who knows?) - however, the one thing he does that Bowman DOES NOT do is hold the fucking edge. When we are playing downs 1-2, Bowman gets washed out vs. edge runs constantly. He also gambles a lot and is in places he's not supposed to be. A lot of his stats come from shooting gaps, etc, and while that can be good - he often isn't where he's supposed to be.

On pass rush downs, I'd rather have Bowman in. He gambles a lot and against a QB that can move, that will hurt us, but in general he is way more aggressive and he has really quick feet.

But, if you want our defense to function properly on downs 1-2, Benning is way better for that because he is stout against the run. He's not a playmaker against the run, but Stanford and PSU just ran right at Bowman and BBK literally any time they were on the field. Because they just can't shed blocks against big, athletic guys.

I don't hate Bowman, and I agree that his emergence is fun. I started to buy the hype until we played PSU. In that game Bowman got destroyed and Benning held up, even though he didn't make plays.

Now, this year, maybe Benning (who has two years to go) might learn how to start making more plays and have a JoJo Mathis-esque career. I sure hope so because JoJo didn't do squat as a JR either. I'm not sure what's going to happen, but that's how I feel.

My obsession is not with TBS it's with TALENT. I don't care if they are highly rated guys - I want guys who have rare physical characteristics, who are big, strong, fast and quick.

I'm intrigued by Josiah Bronson because he's got physical talent. I liked Evan Hudson for the same reason. Because those guys had the physical characteristics to hold up against USC/PSU, etc.

However, Myles Bryant and (to a lesser extent) Ryan Bowman aren't getting it for me. I'm in the middle on Jared Pulu - I'm curious to see how he'll perform.

Bowman kind of reminds me of Josh Shirley, TBH.

Tevis Bartlett still held the edge better than Benning

Disagree. So far Potatoe has survived on his physicality and discipline keeping contain. The next frontier, if he’s capable is reacting and using his tools to blow some shit up.

Wooching did a competent job of keeping contain but failed miserably when it came to making plays.

Bowman, as Dennis points out, brings pressure against average squads. Upper division opponents, SC and top end national programs exploit his aggressiveness and physical limitations with power counters.

A strong inside LB core can compensate. Little BBK, not so much.

Ice_Holmvik said:

Baseman said:

FKA_Mousecop said:

Dennis_DeYoung said:

If you actually watch the games here's what you'll find: Benning flashes now and again, but mostly has been unproductive STAT wise. However, as we know, stats are for fucktards.

Benning hasn't done much in terms of pass rush numbers and I'm close to giving up on him ever doing anything in that category (though, supposedly he had a great spring - who knows?) - however, the one thing he does that Bowman DOES NOT do is hold the fucking edge. When we are playing downs 1-2, Bowman gets washed out vs. edge runs constantly. He also gambles a lot and is in places he's not supposed to be. A lot of his stats come from shooting gaps, etc, and while that can be good - he often isn't where he's supposed to be.

On pass rush downs, I'd rather have Bowman in. He gambles a lot and against a QB that can move, that will hurt us, but in general he is way more aggressive and he has really quick feet.

But, if you want our defense to function properly on downs 1-2, Benning is way better for that because he is stout against the run. He's not a playmaker against the run, but Stanford and PSU just ran right at Bowman and BBK literally any time they were on the field. Because they just can't shed blocks against big, athletic guys.

I don't hate Bowman, and I agree that his emergence is fun. I started to buy the hype until we played PSU. In that game Bowman got destroyed and Benning held up, even though he didn't make plays.

Now, this year, maybe Benning (who has two years to go) might learn how to start making more plays and have a JoJo Mathis-esque career. I sure hope so because JoJo didn't do squat as a JR either. I'm not sure what's going to happen, but that's how I feel.

My obsession is not with TBS it's with TALENT. I don't care if they are highly rated guys - I want guys who have rare physical characteristics, who are big, strong, fast and quick.

I'm intrigued by Josiah Bronson because he's got physical talent. I liked Evan Hudson for the same reason. Because those guys had the physical characteristics to hold up against USC/PSU, etc.

However, Myles Bryant and (to a lesser extent) Ryan Bowman aren't getting it for me. I'm in the middle on Jared Pulu - I'm curious to see how he'll perform.

Bowman kind of reminds me of Josh Shirley, TBH.

Tevis Bartlett still held the edge better than Benning

Disagree. So far Potatoe has survived on his physicality and discipline keeping contain. The next frontier, if he’s capable is reacting and using his tools to blow some shit up.

Wooching did a competent job of keeping contain but failed miserably when it came to making plays.

Bowman, as Dennis points out, brings pressure against average squads. Upper division opponents, SC and top end national programs exploit his aggressiveness and physical limitations with power counters.

A strong inside LB core can compensate. Little BBK, not so much.

True about Bowman but he was a redshirt freshman last year. Everyone shits on Bowman because he struggled against elite teams as a freshman. Sounds like its a foregone conclusion he has peaked as a frosh and is just ok. Very few freshmen redshirt or true can hold up against elite teams. In my opinion Bowman is a really pleasant surprise a true try hard white guy but yhat doesnt mean he wont improve. Especially with this staff. Get back to me when he is a jr or sr. Abd my apologies i am not ranting at you just what i perceive to be the general consensus against Bowman.