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Mataio Soli, 2019 4* DE, Douglasville (Douglas County HS), GA (Offered)

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    FKA_Mousecop said:

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    Ice_Holmvik said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    Their strategy is "there are lots of guys there, let's follow them and ask them if they want an offer. If they act interested and are a top 300 guy, offer" - that's it.

    With 66 total offers? Compare that to 284 Oregon offers. I understand you are pissed because we have been shit recruiting bucks previously but there is not a chance in hell a Petersen led staff is just throwing out offers to see if one sticks to the wall. They have a plan and they don't offer just to offer. It goes against Pete's whole recruiting philosophy. And....@spirithorse so I can get a chin up in here!
    THAT ATL KID IS NEVER COMING HERE, it is an absolutely pointless offer and it’s not the only ducking one.

    WE CANT OFFER ELITE KIDS IN STATE BUT WE CAN OFFER SOME KID FROM ATL THAT WE HAVE NO FUCKING SHOT AT.

    Congrats they offer not many guys! Woopity doo!
    Is there an ELITE BUCK prospect IN STATE that we haven’t offered?

    Is there an ELITE BUCK prospect in the P12 recruiting foot print that we haven’t offered?
    Mase Funa, Isaac Townsend, Lolani Langi, Tausili Fiatoa, Treven Ma'ae, Troy Fautanu, Drake Jackson, Seth Robinson, Tuia Tupuola, Justus Legg

    Not exactly elite, but worth a look. Out of all of these, I like Townsend and Jackson the most. Funa is a lost cause, since he went to Oregon.
    We offered Funa, it just isn't showing that on 247.
    My bad.
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  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,425
    Don't sweat it, Eric.
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  • dougthedawg
    dougthedawg Member Posts: 184
    They offered Soli because that Hawaiian/Tahitian motherfucker has been scoring lately.

    Pete wont offer until after they have talked to a kid a bunch. Maybe Malloe thinks this kid is into what he is selling.

    That is how I would solve Coach K sucking at recruiting if Im Coach Pete: Get the dudes who know how to score to look for their sort of dudes at buck.

    Polys can be stubborn (in a good way). If Soli finds family with UW and not in the SEC he could walk away from paper bags.
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  • animate
    animate Member Posts: 4,245
    RoadDawg55 said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

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    dnc said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    Ice_Holmvik said:

    My guess is the staff believes they are in the process of building a national brand similar to Oregon. Having Adidas as an ally and playing in Atlanta next year will help further that exposure. I think they are trying to establish UW as a program that can take a few kids from the South every year or two the way Oregon can. It might be wasted effort for the now but Pete plays the long game and I think this is part of his plan.

    Nah. They are desperate and think think casting a wide net, something's bound to work.
    If they were desperate they'd be offering the in state kids that will clearly take the offer if they extend it.

    You can disagree with the strategery all day long but desperate's got nothing to do with it.
    I don’t think any of the kids that we haven’t offered in state are locks to take our offer, it’s gonna be a battle for those kids.

    I don’t think it’s desperate either, I think it’s a ridiculous strategy that they are employing and makes no fucking sense whatsoever.
    I'm fine with this take. I #TrustTheCoaches so I assume there is solid reasoning to it, but it doesn't make any sense to me on it's face either. I just don't think there's any reason to think it's desperate when we're still among the least offers extended and at the top of "percentage of offers extended that have been accepted". It's weird as fuck, but not close to desperate.
    Maybe you misunderstand what I meant by desperate. It couldn't possibly be that I didn't communicate it correctly.

    They are desperate to get a 'big time BUCK' prospect. So, they are throwing out offers and following a bunch of kids we have no shot at in the 'ugly guy propositioning every 10 in the club' kind of way.

    Given Coach K's results, why is it the default to assume there is a good strategy? His recruiting here has produced this:

    YEAR 1: Nobody.
    YEAR 2: Benning (in-state kid, Choate was lead recruiter on, brother went to UW), Jusstis Warren (in-state late offer, no competition), Bryce Sterk (in-state, late offer, no competition), Myles Rice (out-of-state, injured all senior year, no competition).
    YEAR 3: Amandre (in-state, minimal competition)
    YEAR 4: Joe Tryon (in-state, late offer, some competition, but he always wanted to go to UW)
    YEAR 5: Nobody.

    So, why the fuck would we think he has a strategy? I don't understand why the default is that he is a good recruiter and knows what he's doing. FIVE FUCKING YEARS OF EVIDENCE shows he is clueless.

    Why is it so hard to get people here to hold attitudes that are more nuanced than 'I like this guy/I hate this guy'. I fucking love Coach K. As a guy. As a coach. He is awesome. I do not want him fired. But RYAN BOWMAN is our back up BUCK.

    But WHAT FUCKING EVIDENCE IS THERE HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING IN RECRUITING!?!?

    None. He's gotten blown out for every good BUCK prospect we've been in on. Last year we offered tons of Texas and Southern BUCK kids. ONE KID WENT TO FUCKING LA TECH!!!

    On this fucking bored of all places why do we have to take as the default that the coaches know what they're doing.

    How about when they get some pelts on the wall, then we trust them?

    Fucking show me.
    I agree that Buck recruiting has been lacking, but your Bowman shit is why you’re also a retarded because of your TBS obsession . Bowman as our “back up” Buck has more tackles for losses and sacks in one season than Potoa’e has in two. That was a very good freshman season. How many sacks does he need to get before you think he’s good?
    Dennis is just shooting for the moon.

    Yeah, he's harder on Bowman than Benning for some reason ... (try hard white guy thing?) but he mad because Petersen isn't getting the all world types that will allow us to compete against the top echelon, get us past divisional titles.

    Acknowledging that Bowman gets his stats against mediocre competition just get's dennis' blood pressure boiling ... if Bowman was outperforming and getting those stats when it counts against the likes of Stanford, Penn State and Alabama then that would be different.
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  • animate
    animate Member Posts: 4,245
    I think Josh Shirley would have kicked ass in Petersen's system and coaching for a full 4 years ...

    wish we had a time machine.
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  • FKA_Mousecop
    FKA_Mousecop Member Posts: 2,054
    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    If you actually watch the games here's what you'll find: Benning flashes now and again, but mostly has been unproductive STAT wise. However, as we know, stats are for fucktards.

    Benning hasn't done much in terms of pass rush numbers and I'm close to giving up on him ever doing anything in that category (though, supposedly he had a great spring - who knows?) - however, the one thing he does that Bowman DOES NOT do is hold the fucking edge. When we are playing downs 1-2, Bowman gets washed out vs. edge runs constantly. He also gambles a lot and is in places he's not supposed to be. A lot of his stats come from shooting gaps, etc, and while that can be good - he often isn't where he's supposed to be.

    On pass rush downs, I'd rather have Bowman in. He gambles a lot and against a QB that can move, that will hurt us, but in general he is way more aggressive and he has really quick feet.

    But, if you want our defense to function properly on downs 1-2, Benning is way better for that because he is stout against the run. He's not a playmaker against the run, but Stanford and PSU just ran right at Bowman and BBK literally any time they were on the field. Because they just can't shed blocks against big, athletic guys.

    I don't hate Bowman, and I agree that his emergence is fun. I started to buy the hype until we played PSU. In that game Bowman got destroyed and Benning held up, even though he didn't make plays.

    Now, this year, maybe Benning (who has two years to go) might learn how to start making more plays and have a JoJo Mathis-esque career. I sure hope so because JoJo didn't do squat as a JR either. I'm not sure what's going to happen, but that's how I feel.

    My obsession is not with TBS it's with TALENT. I don't care if they are highly rated guys - I want guys who have rare physical characteristics, who are big, strong, fast and quick.

    I'm intrigued by Josiah Bronson because he's got physical talent. I liked Evan Hudson for the same reason. Because those guys had the physical characteristics to hold up against USC/PSU, etc.

    However, Myles Bryant and (to a lesser extent) Ryan Bowman aren't getting it for me. I'm in the middle on Jared Pulu - I'm curious to see how he'll perform.

    Bowman kind of reminds me of Josh Shirley, TBH.

    Tevis Bartlett still held the edge better than Benning
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  • Ice_Holmvik
    Ice_Holmvik Member Posts: 2,912
    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    FKA_Mousecop said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    If you actually watch the games here's what you'll find: Benning flashes now and again, but mostly has been unproductive STAT wise. However, as we know, stats are for fucktards.

    Benning hasn't done much in terms of pass rush numbers and I'm close to giving up on him ever doing anything in that category (though, supposedly he had a great spring - who knows?) - however, the one thing he does that Bowman DOES NOT do is hold the fucking edge. When we are playing downs 1-2, Bowman gets washed out vs. edge runs constantly. He also gambles a lot and is in places he's not supposed to be. A lot of his stats come from shooting gaps, etc, and while that can be good - he often isn't where he's supposed to be.

    On pass rush downs, I'd rather have Bowman in. He gambles a lot and against a QB that can move, that will hurt us, but in general he is way more aggressive and he has really quick feet.

    But, if you want our defense to function properly on downs 1-2, Benning is way better for that because he is stout against the run. He's not a playmaker against the run, but Stanford and PSU just ran right at Bowman and BBK literally any time they were on the field. Because they just can't shed blocks against big, athletic guys.

    I don't hate Bowman, and I agree that his emergence is fun. I started to buy the hype until we played PSU. In that game Bowman got destroyed and Benning held up, even though he didn't make plays.

    Now, this year, maybe Benning (who has two years to go) might learn how to start making more plays and have a JoJo Mathis-esque career. I sure hope so because JoJo didn't do squat as a JR either. I'm not sure what's going to happen, but that's how I feel.

    My obsession is not with TBS it's with TALENT. I don't care if they are highly rated guys - I want guys who have rare physical characteristics, who are big, strong, fast and quick.

    I'm intrigued by Josiah Bronson because he's got physical talent. I liked Evan Hudson for the same reason. Because those guys had the physical characteristics to hold up against USC/PSU, etc.

    However, Myles Bryant and (to a lesser extent) Ryan Bowman aren't getting it for me. I'm in the middle on Jared Pulu - I'm curious to see how he'll perform.

    Bowman kind of reminds me of Josh Shirley, TBH.

    Tevis Bartlett still held the edge better than Benning
    People are so fucking stupid man. Where is there anything about Bartlett? Who gives a fuck?

    Jesus fucking Christ.

    God. Seriously Fuck you.

    I love Tevis and have always liked Tevis. BUT TEVIS PLAYS SAM. Jesus what the Fuck is your point?

    I swear our society is filled with stupid people who cannot follow a logical thread. And then they think they are making some great point even though they are off the logical thread.

    Sure, JJ WATT IS GOOD!! CHECKMATE!!

    What the actual fuck does Tevis have to do with Benning vs Bowman?!?

    Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you.

    Die dickbag. God. Fuck off.
    They take away your pain pills?
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