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Why are some hating on Nuss so badly? From years of doing the Tecmo Weave and to my highly trained eye, he was the real force behind UW's offense...when I read that Nick Saban had hired him after the Alamo Bowl, my stomach sank and lo and behold, Sloppy Steve and Frosted Tips Kiesau ate meatloaf, took metamucil, and proceeded to shit the bed thrice times over in 2012. Yeah we lost Polk, Kearse, Aguilar, and Kelemete but something was off more than that. Meanwhile, Nuss goes to Alabama and starts lighting it up. Watching his offense against the supposedly nasty Notre Dame D was a thing of beauty and his 99 yard TD play call in the Iron Bowl was perfectly timed.
Yeah yeah, we've been burnt by an OC who became head coach way too early but let's not necessarily fight the last war (OC Sarkisian sucked ergo Nuss will suck) when from what I've heard, Nuss and Sloppy Steve are not all that alike.
One thing is clear, if Woodtarded fucks this up, he is as good as gone in a few years. If Petersen says no and he goes with Nuss and it doesn't work out (better chance than Sloppy Steve IMHO), Woodtarded will be blamed for not having a big enough sack to speak with existing head coaches to whom he has no connection (Tim DeRuyter, James Franklin, Mark Dantonio, Craigh Bohl, Pete Lembo, etc etc).
But in going back to Nuss, doesn't Saban hiring him away from Washington mean something? And then if Woodward hires him, wouldn't that mean Saban strongly recommended him? I don't know about you guys but if Nick Saban highly recommends one of his top assistants for Washington's head coaching job, it might as well be coming from Don James himself.
Why are some hating on Nuss so badly? From years of doing the Tecmo Weave and to my highly trained eye, he was the real force behind UW's offense...when I read that Nick Saban had hired him after the Alamo Bowl, my stomach sank and lo and behold, Sloppy Steve and Frosted Tips Kiesau ate meatloaf, took metamucil, and proceeded to shit the bed thrice times over in 2012. Yeah we lost Polk, Kearse, Aguilar, and Kelemete but something was off more than that. Meanwhile, Nuss goes to Alabama and starts lighting it up. Watching his offense against the supposedly nasty Notre Dame D was a thing of beauty and his 99 yard TD play call in the Iron Bowl was perfectly timed.
Yeah yeah, we've been burnt by an OC who became head coach way too early but let's not necessarily fight the last war (OC Sarkisian sucked ergo Nuss will suck) when from what I've heard, Nuss and Sloppy Steve are not all that alike.
One thing is clear, if Woodtarded fucks this up, he is as good as gone in a few years. If Petersen says no and he goes with Nuss and it doesn't work out (better chance than Sloppy Steve IMHO), Woodtarded will be blamed for not having a big enough sack to speak with existing head coaches to whom he has no connection (Tim DeRuyter, James Franklin, Mark Dantonio, Craigh Bohl, Pete Lembo, etc etc).
But in going back to Nuss, doesn't Saban hiring him away from Washington mean something? And then if Woodward hires him, wouldn't that mean Saban strongly recommended him? I don't know about you guys but if Nick Saban highly recommends one of his top assistants for Washington's head coaching job, it might as well be coming from Don James himself.
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Alabama was lighting it up before Nuss
HTH
oh..........and Chip Kelly supposedly groomed Helfrich for Oregon. In less than a year we find ourself in a December bowl game. Recommendations from head coaches means dick. Saban is doing what any other head coach would do for his offensive coordinator. -
Nussmeier is the greatest possible validation of the Steve Sarkisian era. It means that not only did Woodward not learn anything from his mistake, but he would make it all over again if he had the chance.
It's not about Nussmeier (who could turn out awesome, who knows?), it's about the clueless hiring processes we continue to use.
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Who is that girl and didn't Alabama have a nice jump in offensive performance in 2012 and 2013?
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Nuss hasn't accomplished anything tangible and barely has any experience. Its the type of hire that tells everyone you aren't a top 20 program. He could turn out good but UW shouldn't make this hire. Mind-fuckingly stupid.
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Bama's offense has been good.HFNY said:Who is that girl and didn't Alabama have a nice jump in offensive performance in 2012 and 2013?
As for his time at UW our offense was average in 2009, shitty in 2010 and really good in 2011.
He leaves UW and our offense goes to shitty in 2012 and really good in 2013.
It wasn't like we had a great offense when he was here then immediately fell off a cliff when he left.
As for your point about a Saban assistant? How many Saban former assistants have done anything as a head coach vs how many have failed?
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Which is why I have a huge boner over it's possibility.HeretoBeatmyChest said:Nuss hasn't accomplished anything tangible and barely has any experience. Its the type of hire that tells everyone you aren't a top 20 program. He could turn out good but UW shouldn't make this hire. Mind-fuckingly stupid.
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Here is my issue. You're upset about something you already knew was true. Did you think Woodward learned something? Everyone thought Sark was getting an extension and now everyone is mad because Woodward is Pool Boy?dnc said:Nussmeier is the greatest possible validation of the Steve Sarkisian era. It means that not only did Woodward not learn anything from his mistake, but he would make it all over again if he had the chance.
It's not about Nussmeier (who could turn out awesome, who knows?), it's about the clueless hiring processes we continue to use.
Hope is not a fucking strategy.
You aren't the girl that gets beat up by her boyfriend. You're the girl that fucks a guy with girlfriend, starts dating him and gets mad when he cheats on you. -
I think you put it best in terms of anything tangible (no head coaching record).
I've never met Nuss but a Big Wallet Booster friend has (and who also met Sarkisian and thought he was a fucking joke) and he said he was the stud of the offensive staff rather than Sloppy Steve. He also said that Joel Thomas for sure left because he didn't like Sloppy Steve and same for Nuss on top of Sloppy Steve hogging all of the credit for Jake Locker being drafted #8 and the 2011 offense doing so well with a sub-par OL and a new QB.
I mentioned all of this on Doogman.com when trying to convince everyone that Sloppy Steve was a fucking joke but was shouted down for highlighting Nuss (and Thomas) wanting to get far away from the douche-bag (and I'm sure Nuss realized how bad of a defensive staff Sarkisian had hired, particularly Holt, Nantarded, and "Meats").
Frankly, my only concern is that Nuss doesn't have enough Dawg in him, enough "I'm a bad motherfucker and I'm going to hurt you for the next 60 minutes". From what I've gathered, he has a great football mind and his offenses executed well in spite of the program environment Sloppy created rather than because of it.HeretoBeatmyChest said:Nuss hasn't accomplished anything tangible and barely has any experience. Its the type of hire that tells everyone you aren't a top 20 program. He could turn out good but UW shouldn't make this hire. Mind-fuckingly stupid.
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This thread is about Kate Beckinsale. No one else. Just focus on the picture.
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@HFNY, if you listened to our last podcast, Cornell noted that Nuss has attention to detail and is more respected than Sark. Still, the hire is a huge fucking reach. Nuss should be the 10th choice not anywhere near the top 5.
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